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Has Ken Griswold admitted he underestimated Petermen as a recruiter?

BabsGilbyTawdTyBabsGilbyTawdTy Member Posts: 1,058
in Chuck's Fisch Bowl (Recruiting)
Eklund freely admits he was dead wrong about this staff's ability to land highly ranked classes.

Will Guzzler do the same?
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  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    this isn't the wac anymore
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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    animate said:

    Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

    Comes to a traditional Pac power school as a sleeping giant program, works his method and it's getting great results in only the third year.

    And people doubt that recruiting won't follow? Are people that stupid? Oops...

    He didn't necessarily get average classes at Boise. He got the best ones in ther conference even though it's Boise, Idaho. Pete knows how to recruit and run a program. His actual game day coaching is his weak point.
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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,837
    Good to see it just took one game for Roadie to be back on the nega train
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  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    pointing out the strength's and weaknesses of a coach is being a nega?
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,458 Founders Club
    dhdawg said:

    pointing out the strength's and weaknesses of a coach is being a nega?

    Kim101
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  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861
    AIRWOLF said:

    animate said:

    Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

    It has got to be at least partly that. And his assistants are clearly good teachers of technique. But I also think he and his staff are really good at evaluation.

    Any idiot (okay, maybe not Eklund) can identify raw athletic talent. But Petersen seems to be very good at figuring out which guys are going to be able to translate that talent into becoming superior football players. And most of that has to be about attitude and coachability. Which is where the OKG thing comes in.

    OKG never meant diamond-in-the-rough, white guy, or 2-star recruit. It means guys who give a shit and want to get better. Guys who really love football and not just being recruited. And guess what, there are 4-star and even 5-star OKGs. Boise State just had no shot at landing them. Washington does.
    This reminds me of the way Pete Carroll and his staff evaluates, i also think Peterman evaluates their mental make-up.
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  • MeekMeek Member Posts: 7,031
    backthepack said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    animate said:

    Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

    It has got to be at least partly that. And his assistants are clearly good teachers of technique. But I also think he and his staff are really good at evaluation.

    Any idiot (okay, maybe not Eklund) can identify raw athletic talent. But Petersen seems to be very good at figuring out which guys are going to be able to translate that talent into becoming superior football players. And most of that has to be about attitude and coachability. Which is where the OKG thing comes in.

    OKG never meant diamond-in-the-rough, white guy, or 2-star recruit. It means guys who give a shit and want to get better. Guys who really love football and not just being recruited. And guess what, there are 4-star and even 5-star OKGs. Boise State just had no shot at landing them. Washington does.
    This reminds me of the way Pete Carroll and his staff evaluates, i also think Peterman evaluates their mental make-up.
    Agree totally with this.

    The funny part to me is that Sark had no idea to either look for this or what to look for and recruiting was the 2nd most important part of being on the road recruiting...second to partying in hotels on someone else's dime.
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  • AIRWOLFAIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
    backthepack said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    animate said:

    Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

    It has got to be at least partly that. And his assistants are clearly good teachers of technique. But I also think he and his staff are really good at evaluation.

    Any idiot (okay, maybe not Eklund) can identify raw athletic talent. But Petersen seems to be very good at figuring out which guys are going to be able to translate that talent into becoming superior football players. And most of that has to be about attitude and coachability. Which is where the OKG thing comes in.

    OKG never meant diamond-in-the-rough, white guy, or 2-star recruit. It means guys who give a shit and want to get better. Guys who really love football and not just being recruited. And guess what, there are 4-star and even 5-star OKGs. Boise State just had no shot at landing them. Washington does.
    This reminds me of the way Pete Carroll and his staff evaluates, i also think Peterman evaluates their mental make-up.
    We all pitch you shit, but this comment is spot on.
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  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861
    AIRWOLF said:

    backthepack said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    animate said:

    Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

    It has got to be at least partly that. And his assistants are clearly good teachers of technique. But I also think he and his staff are really good at evaluation.

    Any idiot (okay, maybe not Eklund) can identify raw athletic talent. But Petersen seems to be very good at figuring out which guys are going to be able to translate that talent into becoming superior football players. And most of that has to be about attitude and coachability. Which is where the OKG thing comes in.

    OKG never meant diamond-in-the-rough, white guy, or 2-star recruit. It means guys who give a shit and want to get better. Guys who really love football and not just being recruited. And guess what, there are 4-star and even 5-star OKGs. Boise State just had no shot at landing them. Washington does.
    This reminds me of the way Pete Carroll and his staff evaluates, i also think Peterman evaluates their mental make-up.
    We all pitch you shit, but this comment is spot on.
    I wouldn't be suprised if they had a sports physcolgist on staff that evals recruits on visits or whatever.
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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    Tequilla said:

    Good to see it just took one game for Roadie to be back on the nega train

    How so? That's some dogman shit. It's like saying. Browning is a good QB but his arm strength is his weakness.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,458 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    RaceBannon said:

    As we know, you can be all airport and look like Adonis but when the wind is blowing and the rain is falling and its Wednesday practice and you hurt like hell do you love the game enough to power through?

    huh?

    image
    Selfie?
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