Has Ken Griswold admitted he underestimated Petermen as a recruiter?

BabsGilbyTawdTy

Eklund freely admits he was dead wrong about this staff's ability to land highly ranked classes.

Will Guzzler do the same?

dhdawg

this isn't the wac anymore

GrundleStiltzkin

PineapplePirate

AEB

who cares? those guys are clowns. seriously, who cares?

animate

Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

Comes to a traditional Pac power school as a sleeping giant program, works his method and it's getting great results in only the third year.

And people doubt that recruiting won't follow? Are people that stupid? Oops...

RoadDawg55

animate said:

Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

Comes to a traditional Pac power school as a sleeping giant program, works his method and it's getting great results in only the third year.

And people doubt that recruiting won't follow? Are people that stupid? Oops...

He didn't necessarily get average classes at Boise. He got the best ones in ther conference even though it's Boise, Idaho. Pete knows how to recruit and run a program. His actual game day coaching is his weak point.

Tequilla

Good to see it just took one game for Roadie to be back on the nega train

dhdawg

pointing out the strength's and weaknesses of a coach is being a nega?

RaceBannon

dhdawg said:

pointing out the strength's and weaknesses of a coach is being a nega?

Kim101

dnc

RoadDawg55 said:

animate said:

Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

Comes to a traditional Pac power school as a sleeping giant program, works his method and it's getting great results in only the third year.

And people doubt that recruiting won't follow? Are people that stupid? Oops...

He didn't necessarily get average classes at Boise. He got the best ones in ther conference even though it's Boise, Idaho. Pete knows how to recruit and run a program. His actual game day coaching is his weak point.

Relative to recruiting and running a program, I agree.

Relative to most other football coaches, disagree.

Bill Belichick's a great gameday coach (though he wasn't on Sunday). Nick Saban's a great gameday coach. Urban Meyer's a great gameday coach.

Pretty much everybody else is some degree of meh to dumbfuck.

It's not microwave popcorn.

AIRWOLF

animate said:

Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

It has got to be at least partly that. And his assistants are clearly good teachers of technique. But I also think he and his staff are really good at evaluation.

Any idiot (okay, maybe not Eklund) can identify raw athletic talent. But Petersen seems to be very good at figuring out which guys are going to be able to translate that talent into becoming superior football players. And most of that has to be about attitude and coachability. Which is where the OKG thing comes in.

OKG never meant diamond-in-the-rough, white guy, or 2-star recruit. It means guys who give a shit and want to get better. Guys who really love football and not just being recruited. And guess what, there are 4-star and even 5-star OKGs. Boise State just had no shot at landing them. Washington does.

backthepack

AIRWOLF said:

animate said:

Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

It has got to be at least partly that. And his assistants are clearly good teachers of technique. But I also think he and his staff are really good at evaluation.

Any idiot (okay, maybe not Eklund) can identify raw athletic talent. But Petersen seems to be very good at figuring out which guys are going to be able to translate that talent into becoming superior football players. And most of that has to be about attitude and coachability. Which is where the OKG thing comes in.

OKG never meant diamond-in-the-rough, white guy, or 2-star recruit. It means guys who give a shit and want to get better. Guys who really love football and not just being recruited. And guess what, there are 4-star and even 5-star OKGs. Boise State just had no shot at landing them. Washington does.

This reminds me of the way Pete Carroll and his staff evaluates, i also think Peterman evaluates their mental make-up.

Meek

backthepack said:

AIRWOLF said:

animate said:

Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

It has got to be at least partly that. And his assistants are clearly good teachers of technique. But I also think he and his staff are really good at evaluation.

Any idiot (okay, maybe not Eklund) can identify raw athletic talent. But Petersen seems to be very good at figuring out which guys are going to be able to translate that talent into becoming superior football players. And most of that has to be about attitude and coachability. Which is where the OKG thing comes in.

OKG never meant diamond-in-the-rough, white guy, or 2-star recruit. It means guys who give a shit and want to get better. Guys who really love football and not just being recruited. And guess what, there are 4-star and even 5-star OKGs. Boise State just had no shot at landing them. Washington does.

This reminds me of the way Pete Carroll and his staff evaluates, i also think Peterman evaluates their mental make-up.

Agree totally with this.

The funny part to me is that Sark had no idea to either look for this or what to look for and recruiting was the 2nd most important part of being on the road recruiting...second to partying in hotels on someone else's dime.

AIRWOLF

backthepack said:

AIRWOLF said:

animate said:

Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

It has got to be at least partly that. And his assistants are clearly good teachers of technique. But I also think he and his staff are really good at evaluation.

Any idiot (okay, maybe not Eklund) can identify raw athletic talent. But Petersen seems to be very good at figuring out which guys are going to be able to translate that talent into becoming superior football players. And most of that has to be about attitude and coachability. Which is where the OKG thing comes in.

OKG never meant diamond-in-the-rough, white guy, or 2-star recruit. It means guys who give a shit and want to get better. Guys who really love football and not just being recruited. And guess what, there are 4-star and even 5-star OKGs. Boise State just had no shot at landing them. Washington does.

This reminds me of the way Pete Carroll and his staff evaluates, i also think Peterman evaluates their mental make-up.

We all pitch you shit, but this comment is spot on.

backthepack

AIRWOLF said:

backthepack said:

AIRWOLF said:

animate said:

Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

It has got to be at least partly that. And his assistants are clearly good teachers of technique. But I also think he and his staff are really good at evaluation.

Any idiot (okay, maybe not Eklund) can identify raw athletic talent. But Petersen seems to be very good at figuring out which guys are going to be able to translate that talent into becoming superior football players. And most of that has to be about attitude and coachability. Which is where the OKG thing comes in.

OKG never meant diamond-in-the-rough, white guy, or 2-star recruit. It means guys who give a shit and want to get better. Guys who really love football and not just being recruited. And guess what, there are 4-star and even 5-star OKGs. Boise State just had no shot at landing them. Washington does.

This reminds me of the way Pete Carroll and his staff evaluates, i also think Peterman evaluates their mental make-up.

We all pitch you shit, but this comment is spot on.

I wouldn't be suprised if they had a sports physcolgist on staff that evals recruits on visits or whatever.

RaceBannon

As we know, you can be all airport and look like Adonis but when the wind is blowing and the rain is falling and its Wednesday practice and you hurt like hell do you love the game enough to power through?

RoadDawg55

Tequilla said:

Good to see it just took one game for Roadie to be back on the nega train

How so? That's some dogman shit. It's like saying. Browning is a good QB but his arm strength is his weakness.

dnc

RaceBannon said:

As we know, you can be all airport and look like Adonis but when the wind is blowing and the rain is falling and its Wednesday practice and you hurt like hell do you love the game enough to power through?

huh?

RaceBannon

dnc said:

RaceBannon said:

As we know, you can be all airport and look like Adonis but when the wind is blowing and the rain is falling and its Wednesday practice and you hurt like hell do you love the game enough to power through?

huh?

Selfie?

dnc

RaceBannon said:

dnc said:

RaceBannon said:

As we know, you can be all airport and look like Adonis but when the wind is blowing and the rain is falling and its Wednesday practice and you hurt like hell do you love the game enough to power through?

huh?

Selfie?

Quite honestly it's actually not me, but don't tell @Swaye that...