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Need to find a pass rush next week
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Mathis, and Eldrenkamp, week to week, fwiw
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True, but that doesn't answer the question as to why UW went with only three on Saturday for most of the first half, which yielded zero pressure on the QB, while subjecting both DT's to double teams by Utah's 5 man front. Fighting a double-team on every play is going to tire out even the toughest DLs, which it did.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It's the preference of every coach (Excluding Todd Graham, of course). If you can get pressure without bringing more than 4 players you are at a decided advantage. Even better yet, if you have a secondary good enough that when you do bring 3/4 and still don't get to the QB that they can still hold a play to limited yards or force the QB to throw it away because there is no where to go, you have an even bigger advantage.AIRWOLF said:Serious question:
Is the Huskies' extreme reluctance to blitz likely a preference of Kwiatkowski, Petersen or both?
This seems like the kind of big picture philosophy thing that isn't totally up to the DC, right?
UW has thrived with good pressure from a 4 man front against everyone, until Utah, who has a big, pretty good OL. Something theoretical was going on, but I don't get it. If the DBs cover well, then Twilliams can run pretty well, so where's the spy? Psalm? Let's be serious. No pass rush can make a mediocre QB look great, and that's what happened a lot saturday. And even the best DBs can't cover everyone for 7 or 8 seconds. So, WTF was going on and why weren't the typical 4 rushing on every down like we've done all season? If we do that at Cal, we fucking lose. Webb is way, way better than Twilliams, even though he's a dumbshit, too. -
I get the lack of blitzing. I may not like it, but I get the theory.AIRWOLF said:Serious question:
Is the Huskies' extreme reluctance to blitz likely a preference of Kwiatkowski, Petersen or both?
This seems like the kind of big picture philosophy thing that isn't totally up to the DC, right?
I absolutely do not get rushing only 3 DLs. Not at all. Against any Pac 12 team. Ever. -
Of course it is the preference. I was addressing the extreme reluctance that this coaching staff has displayed towards any form of blitzing. There is a lot of room between almost never bringing even five guys and sending 6+ every other play, like ASU does.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It's the preference of every coach (Excluding Todd Graham, of course). If you can get pressure without bringing more than 4 players you are at a decided advantage. Even better yet, if you have a secondary good enough that when you do bring 3/4 and still don't get to the QB that they can still hold a play to limited yards or force the QB to throw it away because there is no where to go, you have an even bigger advantage.AIRWOLF said:Serious question:
Is the Huskies' extreme reluctance to blitz likely a preference of Kwiatkowski, Petersen or both?
This seems like the kind of big picture philosophy thing that isn't totally up to the DC, right? -
I was screaming for blitzes in the 4 qtr, because our pressure had not been good all game, and Utah was fucking marching down the field with Twilliams having all day in the pocket. When they finally brought pressure, Utah folded like a cheap table. Why did they wait so long? The bottom line for me is that, at some point, you have to get pressure on the QB if he's burning you with completions, chunking yardage on you, feeling safe in the pocket, and, most important, gaining confidence.AIRWOLF said:
Of course it is the preference. I was addressing the extreme reluctance that this coaching staff has displayed towards any form of blitzing. There is a lot of room between almost never bringing even five guys and sending 6+ every other play, like ASU does.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It's the preference of every coach (Excluding Todd Graham, of course). If you can get pressure without bringing more than 4 players you are at a decided advantage. Even better yet, if you have a secondary good enough that when you do bring 3/4 and still don't get to the QB that they can still hold a play to limited yards or force the QB to throw it away because there is no where to go, you have an even bigger advantage.AIRWOLF said:Serious question:
Is the Huskies' extreme reluctance to blitz likely a preference of Kwiatkowski, Petersen or both?
This seems like the kind of big picture philosophy thing that isn't totally up to the DC, right? -
Yeah. I don't want them to go blitz crazy, but when you can roll out Jones, King and Gardenhire to play WRs man-to-man and can put Budda as a single high center-fielder, you would to feel pretty good about sending some pressures from time to time.TurdBuffer said:
I was screaming for blitzes in the 4 qtr, because our pressure had not been good all game, and Utah was fucking marching down the field with Twilliams having all day in the pocket. When they finally brought pressure, Utah folded like a cheap table. Why did they wait so long? The bottom line for me is that, at some point, you have to get pressure on the QB if he's burning you with completions, chunking yardage on you, feeling safe in the pocket, and, most important, gaining confidence.AIRWOLF said:
Of course it is the preference. I was addressing the extreme reluctance that this coaching staff has displayed towards any form of blitzing. There is a lot of room between almost never bringing even five guys and sending 6+ every other play, like ASU does.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It's the preference of every coach (Excluding Todd Graham, of course). If you can get pressure without bringing more than 4 players you are at a decided advantage. Even better yet, if you have a secondary good enough that when you do bring 3/4 and still don't get to the QB that they can still hold a play to limited yards or force the QB to throw it away because there is no where to go, you have an even bigger advantage.AIRWOLF said:Serious question:
Is the Huskies' extreme reluctance to blitz likely a preference of Kwiatkowski, Petersen or both?
This seems like the kind of big picture philosophy thing that isn't totally up to the DC, right?
The weird thing is I have heard Petersen say that you need to blitz sometimes, even if you don't need to, just to remain somewhat unpredictable. Yet they blitz under 10% of the time... -
Bingo! Zactly! Just to keep Twilliams off balance. Plus! The blitzes they finally tried, worked like a charm, damn near causing a turnover. Yet, not even once in the first half. Who does that? Why?AIRWOLF said:
Yeah. I don't want them to go blitz crazy, but when you can roll out Jones, King and Gardenhire to play WRs man-to-man and can put Budda as a single high center-fielder, you would to feel pretty good about sending some pressures from time to time.TurdBuffer said:
I was screaming for blitzes in the 4 qtr, because our pressure had not been good all game, and Utah was fucking marching down the field with Twilliams having all day in the pocket. When they finally brought pressure, Utah folded like a cheap table. Why did they wait so long? The bottom line for me is that, at some point, you have to get pressure on the QB if he's burning you with completions, chunking yardage on you, feeling safe in the pocket, and, most important, gaining confidence.AIRWOLF said:
Of course it is the preference. I was addressing the extreme reluctance that this coaching staff has displayed towards any form of blitzing. There is a lot of room between almost never bringing even five guys and sending 6+ every other play, like ASU does.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It's the preference of every coach (Excluding Todd Graham, of course). If you can get pressure without bringing more than 4 players you are at a decided advantage. Even better yet, if you have a secondary good enough that when you do bring 3/4 and still don't get to the QB that they can still hold a play to limited yards or force the QB to throw it away because there is no where to go, you have an even bigger advantage.AIRWOLF said:Serious question:
Is the Huskies' extreme reluctance to blitz likely a preference of Kwiatkowski, Petersen or both?
This seems like the kind of big picture philosophy thing that isn't totally up to the DC, right?
The weird thing is I have heard Petersen say that you need to blitz sometimes, even if you don't need to, just to remain somewhat unpredictable. Yet they blitz under 10% of the time... -
14-31 is bad. They didn't do horrible, but Troy would have completely cracked with more pressure.TurdBuffer said:
True, but that doesn't answer the question as to why UW went with only three on Saturday for most of the first half, which yielded zero pressure on the QB, while subjecting both DT's to double teams by Utah's 5 man front. Fighting a double-team on every play is going to tire out even the toughest DLs, which it did.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It's the preference of every coach (Excluding Todd Graham, of course). If you can get pressure without bringing more than 4 players you are at a decided advantage. Even better yet, if you have a secondary good enough that when you do bring 3/4 and still don't get to the QB that they can still hold a play to limited yards or force the QB to throw it away because there is no where to go, you have an even bigger advantage.AIRWOLF said:Serious question:
Is the Huskies' extreme reluctance to blitz likely a preference of Kwiatkowski, Petersen or both?
This seems like the kind of big picture philosophy thing that isn't totally up to the DC, right?
UW has thrived with good pressure from a 4 man front against everyone, until Utah, who has a big, pretty good OL. Something theoretical was going on, but I don't get it. If the DBs cover well, then Twilliams can run pretty well, so where's the spy? Psalm? Let's be serious. No pass rush can make a mediocre QB look great, and that's what happened a lot saturday. And even the best DBs can't cover everyone for 7 or 8 seconds. So, WTF was going on and why weren't the typical 4 rushing on every down like we've done all season? If we do that at Cal, we fucking lose. Webb is way, way better than Twilliams, even though he's a dumbshit, too.
