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If you don't understand that the old testament is the foundation of the brand of christianity that 95% of Americans follow, then you even more ignorant that I originally thought.PurpleJ said:
I'm not Jewish. HTH. But it won't because you are a dumbfuck.OZONE said:
Read the old testament sometime.PurpleJ said:Convert or die?
When the Israelites rampaged through the land that their "god gave them", they just murdered everybody that already lived there. Their victims weren't even offered the chance to convert.
So in a sense, Islam is kinder in that regard. -
In other words, we should be cutting Islam some slack for another 100+ years since their calendar hasn't even caught up to our nastiness yet.dnc said:
No, I'm not.OZONE said:
You are ignorant on the topic.dnc said:
No, it wasn't. What Christianity did 1400 years ago isn't anything to be proud of but it's not equivalent to what Islam's doing today.OZONE said:
Islam is only 1400 years old. Christianity is 2000 years old and Judaism is over 3000 years old.PurpleJ said:This shit happens every single day in the Islamic world.
When Christianity was 1400 years old, it was doing the same shit Islam is doing today.
Judaism murdered millions as they took the land their "god gave them".
The problem isn't Islam, the problem is religion.
Try again.
You might start with reading about the conquistadors and missionaries in the new world.
Then read about the Dutch in the east Indies.
There wasn't a single Christian in the New World when Christianity was 1400 years old.
hth
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Excuse me while I go sacrifice a calf.
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You couldn't stop yourself could you? ISAFNRC. Another Democrat and Clinton voter that hates Catholics. I'll wait for the nacho lover a Coker to weigh on first.dnc said:
Christianity's come a long way once it got out from Catholicism, no question.dhdawg said:
That wasn't the case 500 years ago.dnc said:
Because the book explicitly says things have changed.ThomasFremont said:
It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.dnc said:
Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.ThomasFremont said:
The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...PurpleJ said:Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.
Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.
#NewCovenantNewAttitude
Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
For the record, the Koran is basically the exact opposite of the Bible. The Koran starts with peace and tolerance and gets progressively more violent and hateful. The Bible moves in the opposite direction. So if you assume that things written later trump things written earlier (as basically every faith does), you get predominately peaceful New Testament Christians and many significantly violent Muslims. Because that's what their holy texts produce.
We could also just look to the lives of the founders of the religions if you prefer going at it that way. Jesus peacefully died a violent death, telling his followers not to harm other to protect him. Muhammad massacred large amounts of people.
But you don't have to agree with that interpretation of the texts, or the stories of the founders, you can just look at the followers of said texts for evidence. Violent Muslims make a lot more headlines than violent Christians for a reason, and it's not media bias. There are a hell of a lot more people reading the Koran who think "this is telling me to be violent" than those reading the Bible who take it that way.
That's not an accident.
Christianity through education and enlightenment has undergone significant reforms that Islam has not and needs to, and the people who pretend like it doesn't are FS.
All rreligions suck and must be reformed or if I had my way deserted. Islam may be worse in that way, but not by much. The problem is in many countries it is the least reformed of any religion -
Source?Sledog said:
Kind of like you picking and choosing stupid political positions and reacting to anomalies as if they happen regularly?ThomasFremont said:
It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.dnc said:
Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.ThomasFremont said:
The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...PurpleJ said:Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.
Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.
#NewCovenantNewAttitude
Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't? -
Hardcorehusky.comThomasFremont said:
Source?Sledog said:
Kind of like you picking and choosing stupid political positions and reacting to anomalies as if they happen regularly?ThomasFremont said:
It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.dnc said:
Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.ThomasFremont said:
The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...PurpleJ said:Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.
Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.
#NewCovenantNewAttitude
Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
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Hurtfuldnc said:
Christianity's come a long way once it got out from Catholicism, no question.dhdawg said:
That wasn't the case 500 years ago.dnc said:
Because the book explicitly says things have changed.ThomasFremont said:
It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.dnc said:
Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.ThomasFremont said:
The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...PurpleJ said:Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.
Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.
#NewCovenantNewAttitude
Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
For the record, the Koran is basically the exact opposite of the Bible. The Koran starts with peace and tolerance and gets progressively more violent and hateful. The Bible moves in the opposite direction. So if you assume that things written later trump things written earlier (as basically every faith does), you get predominately peaceful New Testament Christians and many significantly violent Muslims. Because that's what their holy texts produce.
We could also just look to the lives of the founders of the religions if you prefer going at it that way. Jesus peacefully died a violent death, telling his followers not to harm other to protect him. Muhammad massacred large amounts of people.
But you don't have to agree with that interpretation of the texts, or the stories of the founders, you can just look at the followers of said texts for evidence. Violent Muslims make a lot more headlines than violent Christians for a reason, and it's not media bias. There are a hell of a lot more people reading the Koran who think "this is telling me to be violent" than those reading the Bible who take it that way.
That's not an accident.
Christianity through education and enlightenment has undergone significant reforms that Islam has not and needs to, and the people who pretend like it doesn't are FS.
All rreligions suck and must be reformed or if I had my way deserted. Islam may be worse in that way, but not by much. The problem is in many countries it is the least reformed of any religion -
How do you remember to breathe?OZONE said:
If you don't understand that the old testament is the foundation of the brand of christianity that 95% of Americans follow, then you even more ignorant that I originally thought.PurpleJ said:
I'm not Jewish. HTH. But it won't because you are a dumbfuck.OZONE said:
Read the old testament sometime.PurpleJ said:Convert or die?
When the Israelites rampaged through the land that their "god gave them", they just murdered everybody that already lived there. Their victims weren't even offered the chance to convert.
So in a sense, Islam is kinder in that regard. -
To be fair, Catholicism's come a long way since then, too. The reformation did all kinds of good, even if some of it took awhile to really take hold.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Hurtfuldnc said:
Christianity's come a long way once it got out from Catholicism, no question.dhdawg said:
That wasn't the case 500 years ago.dnc said:
Because the book explicitly says things have changed.ThomasFremont said:
It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.dnc said:
Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.ThomasFremont said:
The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...PurpleJ said:Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.
Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.
#NewCovenantNewAttitude
Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
For the record, the Koran is basically the exact opposite of the Bible. The Koran starts with peace and tolerance and gets progressively more violent and hateful. The Bible moves in the opposite direction. So if you assume that things written later trump things written earlier (as basically every faith does), you get predominately peaceful New Testament Christians and many significantly violent Muslims. Because that's what their holy texts produce.
We could also just look to the lives of the founders of the religions if you prefer going at it that way. Jesus peacefully died a violent death, telling his followers not to harm other to protect him. Muhammad massacred large amounts of people.
But you don't have to agree with that interpretation of the texts, or the stories of the founders, you can just look at the followers of said texts for evidence. Violent Muslims make a lot more headlines than violent Christians for a reason, and it's not media bias. There are a hell of a lot more people reading the Koran who think "this is telling me to be violent" than those reading the Bible who take it that way.
That's not an accident.
Christianity through education and enlightenment has undergone significant reforms that Islam has not and needs to, and the people who pretend like it doesn't are FS.
All rreligions suck and must be reformed or if I had my way deserted. Islam may be worse in that way, but not by much. The problem is in many countries it is the least reformed of any religion
If the Catholics would just let their priests marry and thus stop molestering so damn much they'd be in pretty good shape. -
You sound like a heretic.dnc said:
To be fair, Catholicism's come a long way since then, too. The reformation did all kinds of good, even if some of it took awhile to really take hold.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Hurtfuldnc said:
Christianity's come a long way once it got out from Catholicism, no question.dhdawg said:
That wasn't the case 500 years ago.dnc said:
Because the book explicitly says things have changed.ThomasFremont said:
It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.dnc said:
Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.ThomasFremont said:
The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...PurpleJ said:Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.
Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.
#NewCovenantNewAttitude
Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
For the record, the Koran is basically the exact opposite of the Bible. The Koran starts with peace and tolerance and gets progressively more violent and hateful. The Bible moves in the opposite direction. So if you assume that things written later trump things written earlier (as basically every faith does), you get predominately peaceful New Testament Christians and many significantly violent Muslims. Because that's what their holy texts produce.
We could also just look to the lives of the founders of the religions if you prefer going at it that way. Jesus peacefully died a violent death, telling his followers not to harm other to protect him. Muhammad massacred large amounts of people.
But you don't have to agree with that interpretation of the texts, or the stories of the founders, you can just look at the followers of said texts for evidence. Violent Muslims make a lot more headlines than violent Christians for a reason, and it's not media bias. There are a hell of a lot more people reading the Koran who think "this is telling me to be violent" than those reading the Bible who take it that way.
That's not an accident.
Christianity through education and enlightenment has undergone significant reforms that Islam has not and needs to, and the people who pretend like it doesn't are FS.
All rreligions suck and must be reformed or if I had my way deserted. Islam may be worse in that way, but not by much. The problem is in many countries it is the least reformed of any religion
If the Catholics would just let their priests marry and thus stop molestering so damn much they'd be in pretty good shape. -
Are you suggesting I should DIAFF?GrundleStiltzkin said:
You sound like a heretic.dnc said:
To be fair, Catholicism's come a long way since then, too. The reformation did all kinds of good, even if some of it took awhile to really take hold.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Hurtfuldnc said:
Christianity's come a long way once it got out from Catholicism, no question.dhdawg said:
That wasn't the case 500 years ago.dnc said:
Because the book explicitly says things have changed.ThomasFremont said:
It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.dnc said:
Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.ThomasFremont said:
The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...PurpleJ said:Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.
Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.
#NewCovenantNewAttitude
Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
For the record, the Koran is basically the exact opposite of the Bible. The Koran starts with peace and tolerance and gets progressively more violent and hateful. The Bible moves in the opposite direction. So if you assume that things written later trump things written earlier (as basically every faith does), you get predominately peaceful New Testament Christians and many significantly violent Muslims. Because that's what their holy texts produce.
We could also just look to the lives of the founders of the religions if you prefer going at it that way. Jesus peacefully died a violent death, telling his followers not to harm other to protect him. Muhammad massacred large amounts of people.
But you don't have to agree with that interpretation of the texts, or the stories of the founders, you can just look at the followers of said texts for evidence. Violent Muslims make a lot more headlines than violent Christians for a reason, and it's not media bias. There are a hell of a lot more people reading the Koran who think "this is telling me to be violent" than those reading the Bible who take it that way.
That's not an accident.
Christianity through education and enlightenment has undergone significant reforms that Islam has not and needs to, and the people who pretend like it doesn't are FS.
All rreligions suck and must be reformed or if I had my way deserted. Islam may be worse in that way, but not by much. The problem is in many countries it is the least reformed of any religion
If the Catholics would just let their priests marry and thus stop molestering so damn much they'd be in pretty good shape. -
It is you who say this.dnc said:
Are you suggesting I should DIAFF?GrundleStiltzkin said:
You sound like a heretic.dnc said:
To be fair, Catholicism's come a long way since then, too. The reformation did all kinds of good, even if some of it took awhile to really take hold.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Hurtfuldnc said:
Christianity's come a long way once it got out from Catholicism, no question.dhdawg said:
That wasn't the case 500 years ago.dnc said:
Because the book explicitly says things have changed.ThomasFremont said:
It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.dnc said:
Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.ThomasFremont said:
The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...PurpleJ said:Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.
Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.
#NewCovenantNewAttitude
Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
For the record, the Koran is basically the exact opposite of the Bible. The Koran starts with peace and tolerance and gets progressively more violent and hateful. The Bible moves in the opposite direction. So if you assume that things written later trump things written earlier (as basically every faith does), you get predominately peaceful New Testament Christians and many significantly violent Muslims. Because that's what their holy texts produce.
We could also just look to the lives of the founders of the religions if you prefer going at it that way. Jesus peacefully died a violent death, telling his followers not to harm other to protect him. Muhammad massacred large amounts of people.
But you don't have to agree with that interpretation of the texts, or the stories of the founders, you can just look at the followers of said texts for evidence. Violent Muslims make a lot more headlines than violent Christians for a reason, and it's not media bias. There are a hell of a lot more people reading the Koran who think "this is telling me to be violent" than those reading the Bible who take it that way.
That's not an accident.
Christianity through education and enlightenment has undergone significant reforms that Islam has not and needs to, and the people who pretend like it doesn't are FS.
All rreligions suck and must be reformed or if I had my way deserted. Islam may be worse in that way, but not by much. The problem is in many countries it is the least reformed of any religion
If the Catholics would just let their priests marry and thus stop molestering so damn much they'd be in pretty good shape. -
Nobody was talking to you.doogie said:
Hardcorehusky.comThomasFremont said:
Source?Sledog said:
Kind of like you picking and choosing stupid political positions and reacting to anomalies as if they happen regularly?ThomasFremont said:
It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.dnc said:
Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.ThomasFremont said:
The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...PurpleJ said:Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.
Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.
#NewCovenantNewAttitude
Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
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>> 2001400ex
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Let me get this straight. There were these people who did a bunch of murdering in the name of Judaism. Then, later on, these other people started a heavily modified version of Judaism called Christianity. And even though Judaism is still a religion, we should consider Christianity to be the religion responsible for the aforementioned murders?OZONE said:
If you don't understand that the old testament is the foundation of the brand of christianity that 95% of Americans follow, then you even more ignorant that I originally thought.PurpleJ said:
I'm not Jewish. HTH. But it won't because you are a dumbfuck.OZONE said:
Read the old testament sometime.PurpleJ said:Convert or die?
When the Israelites rampaged through the land that their "god gave them", they just murdered everybody that already lived there. Their victims weren't even offered the chance to convert.
So in a sense, Islam is kinder in that regard.
That's some pretty gay logic.
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Agreed. All you have to do is Just compare ISIL with those Nigerian Christians.OZONE said:No problem if you want to say that extreme islam has been worse than extreme christianity recently -- but that is like saying that Smallpox has killed more humans than the Spanish Flu. Both diseases have been shitty, and all diseases are shitty, not just the shittiest.
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I'm starting a gofundme account for fuel for a one way Seaplane trip to Mosul. Maybe you can update us on the happen stance and going's on's.OZONE said:
Islam is only 1400 years old. Christianity is 2000 years old and Judaism is over 3000 years old.PurpleJ said:This shit happens every single day in the Islamic world.
When Christianity was 1400 years old, it was doing the same shit Islam is doing today.
Judaism murdered millions as they took the land their "god gave them".
The problem isn't Islam, the problem is religion. -
I hope all these religious fags just keep killing each other. Go on, wipe each other off the map, who gives a shit? If a few atheists have to die, so be it. Far more people get killed every day over their fairytales than those of us who don't waste time reading some guys book. Fuck em all.
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This is like if Star Trek nerds and Star Wars nerds started an actual war with each other.phineas said:I hope all these religious fags just keep killing each other. Go on, wipe each other off the map, who gives a shit? If a few atheists have to die, so be it. Far more people get killed every day over their fairytales than those of us who don't waste time reading some guys book. Fuck em all.
My story is better!
No, MY story is better!!!
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