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    Fenderbender123Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,899
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    Swaye said:

    Look at how many people are killed because of Christianity. Then look at how many people are killed because of Islam. Then, consider that the world has about 50% more Christians than Muslims in it.

    There's problems everywhere. But Islam is, by far, a bigger problem. I do feel bad for peaceful Muslims, though, and I honestly have no idea how to solve the problem. Fighting war after war doesn't seem to be working.

    I have a solution.

    image
    As long as it doesn't hurt the oil I need to drive my car around, I'm down with this idea. I'm just progressive like that
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,622
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    dnc said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.

    The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...
    Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.

    Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.

    #NewCovenantNewAttitude
    It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.

    Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
    Kind of like you picking and choosing stupid political positions and reacting to anomalies as if they happen regularly?
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    dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
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    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.

    The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...
    Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.

    Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.

    #NewCovenantNewAttitude
    It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.

    Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
    Because the book explicitly says things have changed.

    For the record, the Koran is basically the exact opposite of the Bible. The Koran starts with peace and tolerance and gets progressively more violent and hateful. The Bible moves in the opposite direction. So if you assume that things written later trump things written earlier (as basically every faith does), you get predominately peaceful New Testament Christians and many significantly violent Muslims. Because that's what their holy texts produce.

    We could also just look to the lives of the founders of the religions if you prefer going at it that way. Jesus peacefully died a violent death, telling his followers not to harm other to protect him. Muhammad massacred large amounts of people.

    But you don't have to agree with that interpretation of the texts, or the stories of the founders, you can just look at the followers of said texts for evidence. Violent Muslims make a lot more headlines than violent Christians for a reason, and it's not media bias. There are a hell of a lot more people reading the Koran who think "this is telling me to be violent" than those reading the Bible who take it that way.

    That's not an accident.
    That wasn't the case 500 years ago.
    Christianity through education and enlightenment has undergone significant reforms that Islam has not and needs to, and the people who pretend like it doesn't are FS.
    All rreligions suck and must be reformed or if I had my way deserted. Islam may be worse in that way, but not by much. The problem is in many countries it is the least reformed of any religion
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    dhdawg said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.

    The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...
    Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.

    Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.

    #NewCovenantNewAttitude
    It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.

    Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
    Because the book explicitly says things have changed.

    For the record, the Koran is basically the exact opposite of the Bible. The Koran starts with peace and tolerance and gets progressively more violent and hateful. The Bible moves in the opposite direction. So if you assume that things written later trump things written earlier (as basically every faith does), you get predominately peaceful New Testament Christians and many significantly violent Muslims. Because that's what their holy texts produce.

    We could also just look to the lives of the founders of the religions if you prefer going at it that way. Jesus peacefully died a violent death, telling his followers not to harm other to protect him. Muhammad massacred large amounts of people.

    But you don't have to agree with that interpretation of the texts, or the stories of the founders, you can just look at the followers of said texts for evidence. Violent Muslims make a lot more headlines than violent Christians for a reason, and it's not media bias. There are a hell of a lot more people reading the Koran who think "this is telling me to be violent" than those reading the Bible who take it that way.

    That's not an accident.
    That wasn't the case 500 years ago.
    Christianity through education and enlightenment has undergone significant reforms that Islam has not and needs to, and the people who pretend like it doesn't are FS.
    All rreligions suck and must be reformed or if I had my way deserted. Islam may be worse in that way, but not by much. The problem is in many countries it is the least reformed of any religion
    Christianity's come a long way once it got out from Catholicism, no question.
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    OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
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    PurpleJ said:

    Convert or die?

    Read the old testament sometime.

    When the Israelites rampaged through the land that their "god gave them", they just murdered everybody that already lived there. Their victims weren't even offered the chance to convert.

    So in a sense, Islam is kinder in that regard.
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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,637
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    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Convert or die?

    Read the old testament sometime.

    When the Israelites rampaged through the land that their "god gave them", they just murdered everybody that already lived there. Their victims weren't even offered the chance to convert.

    So in a sense, Islam is kinder in that regard.
    I'm not Jewish. HTH. But it won't because you are a dumbfuck.
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    OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
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    PurpleJ said:

    This shit happens every single day in the Islamic world.

    Islam is only 1400 years old. Christianity is 2000 years old and Judaism is over 3000 years old.

    When Christianity was 1400 years old, it was doing the same shit Islam is doing today.

    Judaism murdered millions as they took the land their "god gave them".

    The problem isn't Islam, the problem is religion.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:

    This shit happens every single day in the Islamic world.

    Islam is only 1400 years old. Christianity is 2000 years old and Judaism is over 3000 years old.

    When Christianity was 1400 years old, it was doing the same shit Islam is doing today.

    Judaism murdered millions as they took the land their "god gave them".

    The problem isn't Islam, the problem is religion.
    No, it wasn't. What Christianity did 1400 years ago isn't anything to be proud of but it's not equivalent to what Islam's doing today.

    Try again.
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    OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
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    dnc said:

    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:

    This shit happens every single day in the Islamic world.

    Islam is only 1400 years old. Christianity is 2000 years old and Judaism is over 3000 years old.

    When Christianity was 1400 years old, it was doing the same shit Islam is doing today.

    Judaism murdered millions as they took the land their "god gave them".

    The problem isn't Islam, the problem is religion.
    No, it wasn't. What Christianity did 1400 years ago isn't anything to be proud of but it's not equivalent to what Islam's doing today.

    Try again.
    You are ignorant on the topic.

    You might start with reading about the conquistadors and missionaries in the new world.

    Then read about the Dutch in the east Indies.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    OZONE said:

    dnc said:

    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:

    This shit happens every single day in the Islamic world.

    Islam is only 1400 years old. Christianity is 2000 years old and Judaism is over 3000 years old.

    When Christianity was 1400 years old, it was doing the same shit Islam is doing today.

    Judaism murdered millions as they took the land their "god gave them".

    The problem isn't Islam, the problem is religion.
    No, it wasn't. What Christianity did 1400 years ago isn't anything to be proud of but it's not equivalent to what Islam's doing today.

    Try again.
    You are ignorant on the topic.

    You might start with reading about the conquistadors and missionaries in the new world.

    Then read about the Dutch in the east Indies.
    No, I'm not.

    There wasn't a single Christian in the New World when Christianity was 1400 years old.

    hth
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    OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
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    PurpleJ said:

    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Convert or die?

    Read the old testament sometime.

    When the Israelites rampaged through the land that their "god gave them", they just murdered everybody that already lived there. Their victims weren't even offered the chance to convert.

    So in a sense, Islam is kinder in that regard.
    I'm not Jewish. HTH. But it won't because you are a dumbfuck.
    If you don't understand that the old testament is the foundation of the brand of christianity that 95% of Americans follow, then you even more ignorant that I originally thought.
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    OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
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    dnc said:

    OZONE said:

    dnc said:

    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:

    This shit happens every single day in the Islamic world.

    Islam is only 1400 years old. Christianity is 2000 years old and Judaism is over 3000 years old.

    When Christianity was 1400 years old, it was doing the same shit Islam is doing today.

    Judaism murdered millions as they took the land their "god gave them".

    The problem isn't Islam, the problem is religion.
    No, it wasn't. What Christianity did 1400 years ago isn't anything to be proud of but it's not equivalent to what Islam's doing today.

    Try again.
    You are ignorant on the topic.

    You might start with reading about the conquistadors and missionaries in the new world.

    Then read about the Dutch in the east Indies.
    No, I'm not.

    There wasn't a single Christian in the New World when Christianity was 1400 years old.

    hth
    In other words, we should be cutting Islam some slack for another 100+ years since their calendar hasn't even caught up to our nastiness yet.
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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,637
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    Excuse me while I go sacrifice a calf.
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    CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    dnc said:

    dhdawg said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.

    The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...
    Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.

    Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.

    #NewCovenantNewAttitude
    It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.

    Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
    Because the book explicitly says things have changed.

    For the record, the Koran is basically the exact opposite of the Bible. The Koran starts with peace and tolerance and gets progressively more violent and hateful. The Bible moves in the opposite direction. So if you assume that things written later trump things written earlier (as basically every faith does), you get predominately peaceful New Testament Christians and many significantly violent Muslims. Because that's what their holy texts produce.

    We could also just look to the lives of the founders of the religions if you prefer going at it that way. Jesus peacefully died a violent death, telling his followers not to harm other to protect him. Muhammad massacred large amounts of people.

    But you don't have to agree with that interpretation of the texts, or the stories of the founders, you can just look at the followers of said texts for evidence. Violent Muslims make a lot more headlines than violent Christians for a reason, and it's not media bias. There are a hell of a lot more people reading the Koran who think "this is telling me to be violent" than those reading the Bible who take it that way.

    That's not an accident.
    That wasn't the case 500 years ago.
    Christianity through education and enlightenment has undergone significant reforms that Islam has not and needs to, and the people who pretend like it doesn't are FS.
    All rreligions suck and must be reformed or if I had my way deserted. Islam may be worse in that way, but not by much. The problem is in many countries it is the least reformed of any religion
    Christianity's come a long way once it got out from Catholicism, no question.
    You couldn't stop yourself could you? ISAFNRC. Another Democrat and Clinton voter that hates Catholics. I'll wait for the nacho lover a Coker to weigh on first.
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.

    The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...
    Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.

    Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.

    #NewCovenantNewAttitude
    It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.

    Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
    Kind of like you picking and choosing stupid political positions and reacting to anomalies as if they happen regularly?
    Source?
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    doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
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    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.

    The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...
    Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.

    Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.

    #NewCovenantNewAttitude
    It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.

    Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
    Kind of like you picking and choosing stupid political positions and reacting to anomalies as if they happen regularly?
    Source?
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,482
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    dnc said:

    dhdawg said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.

    The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...
    Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.

    Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.

    #NewCovenantNewAttitude
    It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.

    Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
    Because the book explicitly says things have changed.

    For the record, the Koran is basically the exact opposite of the Bible. The Koran starts with peace and tolerance and gets progressively more violent and hateful. The Bible moves in the opposite direction. So if you assume that things written later trump things written earlier (as basically every faith does), you get predominately peaceful New Testament Christians and many significantly violent Muslims. Because that's what their holy texts produce.

    We could also just look to the lives of the founders of the religions if you prefer going at it that way. Jesus peacefully died a violent death, telling his followers not to harm other to protect him. Muhammad massacred large amounts of people.

    But you don't have to agree with that interpretation of the texts, or the stories of the founders, you can just look at the followers of said texts for evidence. Violent Muslims make a lot more headlines than violent Christians for a reason, and it's not media bias. There are a hell of a lot more people reading the Koran who think "this is telling me to be violent" than those reading the Bible who take it that way.

    That's not an accident.
    That wasn't the case 500 years ago.
    Christianity through education and enlightenment has undergone significant reforms that Islam has not and needs to, and the people who pretend like it doesn't are FS.
    All rreligions suck and must be reformed or if I had my way deserted. Islam may be worse in that way, but not by much. The problem is in many countries it is the least reformed of any religion
    Christianity's come a long way once it got out from Catholicism, no question.
    Hurtful
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,622
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    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:

    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Convert or die?

    Read the old testament sometime.

    When the Israelites rampaged through the land that their "god gave them", they just murdered everybody that already lived there. Their victims weren't even offered the chance to convert.

    So in a sense, Islam is kinder in that regard.
    I'm not Jewish. HTH. But it won't because you are a dumbfuck.
    If you don't understand that the old testament is the foundation of the brand of christianity that 95% of Americans follow, then you even more ignorant that I originally thought.
    How do you remember to breathe?
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    dnc said:

    dhdawg said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.

    The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...
    Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.

    Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.

    #NewCovenantNewAttitude
    It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.

    Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
    Because the book explicitly says things have changed.

    For the record, the Koran is basically the exact opposite of the Bible. The Koran starts with peace and tolerance and gets progressively more violent and hateful. The Bible moves in the opposite direction. So if you assume that things written later trump things written earlier (as basically every faith does), you get predominately peaceful New Testament Christians and many significantly violent Muslims. Because that's what their holy texts produce.

    We could also just look to the lives of the founders of the religions if you prefer going at it that way. Jesus peacefully died a violent death, telling his followers not to harm other to protect him. Muhammad massacred large amounts of people.

    But you don't have to agree with that interpretation of the texts, or the stories of the founders, you can just look at the followers of said texts for evidence. Violent Muslims make a lot more headlines than violent Christians for a reason, and it's not media bias. There are a hell of a lot more people reading the Koran who think "this is telling me to be violent" than those reading the Bible who take it that way.

    That's not an accident.
    That wasn't the case 500 years ago.
    Christianity through education and enlightenment has undergone significant reforms that Islam has not and needs to, and the people who pretend like it doesn't are FS.
    All rreligions suck and must be reformed or if I had my way deserted. Islam may be worse in that way, but not by much. The problem is in many countries it is the least reformed of any religion
    Christianity's come a long way once it got out from Catholicism, no question.
    Hurtful
    To be fair, Catholicism's come a long way since then, too. The reformation did all kinds of good, even if some of it took awhile to really take hold.

    If the Catholics would just let their priests marry and thus stop molestering so damn much they'd be in pretty good shape.
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,482
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    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dhdawg said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Read what the koran says about infidels (you) and then pop off.

    The Bible doesn't have any of that stuff...
    Somebody needs to grow the hell up and learn the difference between the Old and New Testaments.

    Everyone's talking about the difference between Moses and Jesus.

    #NewCovenantNewAttitude
    It's always special to have a special book and to pick and choose the special parts you especially like.

    Why do Christians get to pick and choose the parts of their book they support, but Muslims don't?
    Because the book explicitly says things have changed.

    For the record, the Koran is basically the exact opposite of the Bible. The Koran starts with peace and tolerance and gets progressively more violent and hateful. The Bible moves in the opposite direction. So if you assume that things written later trump things written earlier (as basically every faith does), you get predominately peaceful New Testament Christians and many significantly violent Muslims. Because that's what their holy texts produce.

    We could also just look to the lives of the founders of the religions if you prefer going at it that way. Jesus peacefully died a violent death, telling his followers not to harm other to protect him. Muhammad massacred large amounts of people.

    But you don't have to agree with that interpretation of the texts, or the stories of the founders, you can just look at the followers of said texts for evidence. Violent Muslims make a lot more headlines than violent Christians for a reason, and it's not media bias. There are a hell of a lot more people reading the Koran who think "this is telling me to be violent" than those reading the Bible who take it that way.

    That's not an accident.
    That wasn't the case 500 years ago.
    Christianity through education and enlightenment has undergone significant reforms that Islam has not and needs to, and the people who pretend like it doesn't are FS.
    All rreligions suck and must be reformed or if I had my way deserted. Islam may be worse in that way, but not by much. The problem is in many countries it is the least reformed of any religion
    Christianity's come a long way once it got out from Catholicism, no question.
    Hurtful
    To be fair, Catholicism's come a long way since then, too. The reformation did all kinds of good, even if some of it took awhile to really take hold.

    If the Catholics would just let their priests marry and thus stop molestering so damn much they'd be in pretty good shape.
    You sound like a heretic.
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