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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    topdawgnc said:
    Do you even have a basic concept of the freedom of speech clause?

    Here's a hint: if you say stupid shit, your employer can fire you.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Shit thread, shit poster.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Glad Clev was suspended, that shit has no place in sports.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    Every action has a consequence.

    When it comes to freedom of speech, the ability to speak your mind without censorship or restraint, there can be an equal and opposite reaction.

    His employer is free to do as they see fit, and should, if they feel it destroys their brand.

    But ... its fucked up. Had he Twitted in support of the riots, all would be fine in Mariner world.

    In your heart, you know I'm right.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    They'll still have to pay the remainder of his contract, but by no means do they need to continue to employ him. They can do the same if it went the other way. The Mariners are weighing the media here. They know if they keep him, they'll get media backlash. Release him, and they stay out of the press. Pretty easy call on their part right or wrong.
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    edited September 2016
    This is one of those discussions that comes down to the scope of how each individual participating in the discussion is viewing "freedom of speech". There are two types:

    1) People who see that the person's ability to speak freely was not illegally lessened.

    2) People who see that the person's ability to speak freely were physically lessened.

    Both views are correct, and both views can fit under the idea of "free speech". The consequence of losing a job does factor into whether or not a person will say something, but that is not a violation of a person's constitutional rights. These arguments are basically just a bunch of people saying

    "I'm type 1"

    "Well ur dumb, cause I'm type 2"

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,661 Founders Club
    topdawgnc said:

    Every action has a consequence.

    When it comes to freedom of speech, the ability to speak your mind without censorship or restraint, there can be an equal and opposite reaction.

    His employer is free to do as they see fit, and should, if they feel it destroys their brand.

    But ... its fucked up. Had he Twitted in support of the riots, all would be fine in Mariner world.

    In your heart, you know I'm right.

    The media types want athletes to get involved and speak out.

    As long as it is the correct speaking out.

  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    edited September 2016

    Glad Clev Kaep was suspended, that shit has no place in sports.

    With that said... Everytime Portland takes the lead in Pussification Cup.... Seattle comes roaring back!!!!
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited September 2016
    He sucks. Cut him. Use this excuse to further some bullshit Mariners Care committee agenda item and use the open roster spot to build the team with a young guy

    Easy call.