FCS North Dakota State will receive consideration for AP Top 25

DerekJohnson

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Southerndawg

AP25 Week 4 Poll

"Others receiving votes: TCU 132, UCLA 74, North Dakota St. 74, Boise St. 69, Iowa 47, California 44, Oklahoma St. 42, Notre Dame 32, Oregon 23, North Carolina 17, Georgia Tech 17, Cent. Michigan 16, South Florida 7, W. Michigan 6, Toledo 6, Maryland 3, Arizona St. 3, Virginia Tech 1."

ApostleofGrief

If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.

Alexis

Cal still too high

Tequilla

ApostleofGrief said:

If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.

100% Disagree

You get NOTHING out of this game ... if you lose or barely win everybody thinks the sky is falling. Since these teams are normally pretty good you likely won't blow them out.

If you want a competitive game go play a P5 or non P5 contender.

whatshouldicareabout

ApostleofGrief said:

If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.

I might be in the minority, but I'd rather watch a game against Michigan than against North Dakota State

ApostleofGrief

Tequilla said:

ApostleofGrief said:

If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.

100% Disagree

You get NOTHING out of this game ... if you lose or barely win everybody thinks the sky is falling. Since these teams are normally pretty good you likely won't blow them out.

If you want a competitive game go play a P5 or non P5 contender.

Cross division play is common in college football and if you do that, the upper conference team booking a lower conference team with a strong record and tradition makes a game about like booking an average upper division team. Your view is based on the habit of booking shitty lower division teams. Also look at all of college football not just fbs
.

TierbsHsotBoobs

They've done a lot more than Washington has so far this season.

Southerndawg

Tequilla said:

ApostleofGrief said:

If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.

100% Disagree

You get NOTHING out of this game ... if you lose or barely win everybody thinks the sky is falling. Since these teams are normally pretty good you likely won't blow them out.

If you want a competitive game go play a P5 or non P5 contender.

I don't disagree in general but why hate on NDS for getting more AP25 votes than all but three PAC12 teams? They've won 6 straight games against FBS schools, I think they've earned the recognition.

FremontTroll

Southerndawg said:

Tequilla said:

ApostleofGrief said:

If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.

100% Disagree

You get NOTHING out of this game ... if you lose or barely win everybody thinks the sky is falling. Since these teams are normally pretty good you likely won't blow them out.

If you want a competitive game go play a P5 or non P5 contender.

I don't disagree in general but why hate on NDS for getting more AP25 votes than all but three PAC12 teams? They've won 6 straight games against FBS schools, I think they've earned the recognition.

Tequila's point (which is 100% correct) has nothing to do with the poll.

Southerndawg

FremontTroll said:

Southerndawg said:

Tequilla said:

ApostleofGrief said:

If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.

100% Disagree

You get NOTHING out of this game ... if you lose or barely win everybody thinks the sky is falling. Since these teams are normally pretty good you likely won't blow them out.

If you want a competitive game go play a P5 or non P5 contender.

I don't disagree in general but why hate on NDS for getting more AP25 votes than all but three PAC12 teams? They've won 6 straight games against FBS schools, I think they've earned the recognition.

Tequila's point (which is 100% correct) has nothing to do with the poll.

He WTF'd the poll, which has everything to do with the poll.

FremontTroll

Southerndawg said:

FremontTroll said:

Southerndawg said:

Tequilla said:

ApostleofGrief said:

If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.

100% Disagree

You get NOTHING out of this game ... if you lose or barely win everybody thinks the sky is falling. Since these teams are normally pretty good you likely won't blow them out.

If you want a competitive game go play a P5 or non P5 contender.

I don't disagree in general but why hate on NDS for getting more AP25 votes than all but three PAC12 teams? They've won 6 straight games against FBS schools, I think they've earned the recognition.

Tequila's point (which is 100% correct) has nothing to do with the poll.

He WTF'd the poll, which has everything to do with the poll.

Ah I see. I don't think I've ever agreed with Tequilla so I thought I would back him up.

Maybe he wtf'ed at TCU being at #26.

ApostleofGrief

Cross division play is common in college football and if you do that, the upper conference team booking a lower conference team with a strong record and tradition makes a game about like booking an average upper division team. Your view is based on the habit of booking shitty lower division teams. Also look at all of college football not just fbs

I've seen Central play NAIA Carroll and win once, lose once. Central played Portland State and won 3 quarters which beat the Cougs last year. You guys are only aware of FBS and look down your noses at the rest of college football. I think you think FBS is greater than other divisions because of the sheer magnitude of comparing fan bases and stadium sizes, but the reality is that it is a continuum and the differences are not that great. A good team in a lower division is about like an average team one notch up. You've got kind of a French, snobby let-them-eat-cake attitude which is fine, but you don't understand college footblal as a whole, only the slice you choose to see.

TierbsHsotBoobs

ApostleofGrief said:

Central played Portland State and won 3 quarters which beat the Cougs last year.

You lost by 19.

Get the fuck out Wildcoot.

haie

ApostleofGrief said:

Cross division play is common in college football and if you do that, the upper conference team booking a lower conference team with a strong record and tradition makes a game about like booking an average upper division team. Your view is based on the habit of booking shitty lower division teams. Also look at all of college football not just fbs

I've seen Central play NAIA Carroll and win once, lose once. Central played Portland State and won 3 quarters which beat the Cougs last year. You guys are only aware of FBS and look down your noses at the rest of college football. I think you think FBS is greater than other divisions because of the sheer magnitude of comparing fan bases and stadium sizes, but the reality is that it is a continuum and the differences are not that great. A good team in a lower division is about like an average team one notch up. You've got kind of a French, snobby let-them-eat-cake attitude which is fine, but you don't understand college footblal as a whole, only the slice you choose to see.

Bandwidth massacre every post, and no Wigwam scalp. Banhammer this faggot.

Tequilla

Southerndawg said:

FremontTroll said:

Southerndawg said:

Tequilla said:

ApostleofGrief said:

If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.

100% Disagree

You get NOTHING out of this game ... if you lose or barely win everybody thinks the sky is falling. Since these teams are normally pretty good you likely won't blow them out.

If you want a competitive game go play a P5 or non P5 contender.

I don't disagree in general but why hate on NDS for getting more AP25 votes than all but three PAC12 teams? They've won 6 straight games against FBS schools, I think they've earned the recognition.

Tequila's point (which is 100% correct) has nothing to do with the poll.

He WTF'd the poll, which has everything to do with the poll.

I WTF'ed it on my phone and was intending to WTF AOG's post which is 100% just wrong ...

Personally, I'd be ok with never publishing the "other receiving votes" by total because I hate the idea of hearing a team say "we're number 30"

Tequilla

ApostleofGrief said:

Cross division play is common in college football and if you do that, the upper conference team booking a lower conference team with a strong record and tradition makes a game about like booking an average upper division team. Your view is based on the habit of booking shitty lower division teams. Also look at all of college football not just fbs

I've seen Central play NAIA Carroll and win once, lose once. Central played Portland State and won 3 quarters which beat the Cougs last year. You guys are only aware of FBS and look down your noses at the rest of college football. I think you think FBS is greater than other divisions because of the sheer magnitude of comparing fan bases and stadium sizes, but the reality is that it is a continuum and the differences are not that great. A good team in a lower division is about like an average team one notch up. You've got kind of a French, snobby let-them-eat-cake attitude which is fine, but you don't understand college footblal as a whole, only the slice you choose to see.

We already said your original post sucked and then you double downed on it?

You're missing the entire point ...

The point being that you gain NOTHING as a P5 school by playing a dangerous FCS school. If you beat them you're supposed to. If you beat them in a close game everybody thinks the sky is falling. If you lose to them like Iowa did and people are instead now looking at the contract that your coach just signed and want to get run down in the middle of the wheat fields.

If you are going to schedule a FCS school, then schedule a program that you not only can beat easily, but one that you know that you can get your depth substantial playing time.

I'm a big proponent of the A-B-C scheduling matrix. The B game should be a mid level group of 5 conference team or lower tier P5 team. Should be good enough that you have to pay attention to but should probably beat by about 20 or so. The A game should be against elite Top 10-20 competition and at a destination that your fan base wants to travel to.

Kaepsknee

ApostleofGrief said:

Cross division play is common in college football and if you do that, the upper conference team booking a lower conference team with a strong record and tradition makes a game about like booking an average upper division team. Your view is based on the habit of booking shitty lower division teams. Also look at all of college football not just fbs

I've seen Central play NAIA Carroll and win once, lose once. Central played Portland State and won 3 quarters which beat the Cougs last year. You guys are only aware of FBS and look down your noses at the rest of college football. I think you think FBS is greater than other divisions because of the sheer magnitude of comparing fan bases and stadium sizes, but the reality is that it is a continuum and the differences are not that great. A good team in a lower division is about like an average team one notch up. You've got kind of a French, snobby let-them-eat-cake attitude which is fine, but you don't understand college footblal as a whole, only the slice you choose to see.

Oh how I've missed some Hot CWU talk.

EsophagealFeces

haie said:

ApostleofGrief said:

Cross division play is common in college football and if you do that, the upper conference team booking a lower conference team with a strong record and tradition makes a game about like booking an average upper division team. Your view is based on the habit of booking shitty lower division teams. Also look at all of college football not just fbs

I've seen Central play NAIA Carroll and win once, lose once. Central played Portland State and won 3 quarters which beat the Cougs last year. You guys are only aware of FBS and look down your noses at the rest of college football. I think you think FBS is greater than other divisions because of the sheer magnitude of comparing fan bases and stadium sizes, but the reality is that it is a continuum and the differences are not that great. A good team in a lower division is about like an average team one notch up. You've got kind of a French, snobby let-them-eat-cake attitude which is fine, but you don't understand college footblal as a whole, only the slice you choose to see.

Bandwidth massacre every post, and no Wigwam scalp. Banhammer this faggot.

The irony of Sven chinning this poast is delicious.

PurpleReign

What's the point? They are in a different league and can't make the final 4, or am I mistaken?

ApostleofGrief

I never said it was a good idea to schedule FCS teams. All I said was that if you do, get a good one. The game will be about like a "B" game. That is what the Eastern games have been like. But playing EWU is more exciting than a shit FBS team. That's the thing that you motherfuckers just can't grasp about college football. That if you go down one rung in divisions the best teams are going to beat the mediocre and crappy teams a rung up. It's like that through the whole spectrum from FBS down to NCAA Div III and NAIA. You look at FBS and think "that is all there is to college football" because it has all the money, fans and huge stadiums. But you are like a music fan that pretends to know music, but is only listening to the shit they have on the radio. You've missed the big picture.