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topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
businessinsider.com/apple-eu-tax-ruling-profound-harmful-effect-investment-job-creation-2016-8

Amazing how the tone changes when other people's money becomes your own.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

~Margaret Thatcher
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Huh?

    Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production;[10] as well as the political ideologies, theories, and movements that aim at their establishment.[11] Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective, or cooperative ownership; to citizen ownership of equity; or to any combination of these.[12] Although there are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[13] social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.[5][14][15]

    Socialist economic systems can be divided into both non-market and market forms.[16] Non-market socialism involves the substitution of factor markets and money with engineering and technical criteria based on calculation performed in-kind, thereby producing an economic mechanism that functions according to different economic laws from those of capitalism. Non-market socialism aims to circumvent the inefficiencies and crises traditionally associated with capital accumulation and the profit system.[25] By contrast, market socialism retains the use of monetary prices, factor markets, and, in some cases, the profit motive with respect to the operation of socially-owned enterprises and the allocation of capital goods between them. Profits generated by these firms would be controlled directly by the workforce of each firm or accrue to society at large in the form of a social dividend.[26][27][28] The feasibility and exact methods of resource allocation and calculation for a socialist system are the subjects of the socialist calculation debate.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter
    You simply couldn't hold back could you
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,776 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2016
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,416 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2016
    2001400ex said:

    Huh?

    Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production;[10] as well as the political ideologies, theories, and movements that aim at their establishment.[11] Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective, or cooperative ownership; to citizen ownership of equity; or to any combination of these.[12] Although there are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[13] social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.[5][14][15]

    Socialist economic systems can be divided into both non-market and market forms.[16] Non-market socialism involves the substitution of factor markets and money with engineering and technical criteria based on calculation performed in-kind, thereby producing an economic mechanism that functions according to different economic laws from those of capitalism. Non-market socialism aims to circumvent the inefficiencies and crises traditionally associated with capital accumulation and the profit system.[25] By contrast, market socialism retains the use of monetary prices, factor markets, and, in some cases, the profit motive with respect to the operation of socially-owned enterprises and the allocation of capital goods between them. Profits generated by these firms would be controlled directly by the workforce of each firm or accrue to society at large in the form of a social dividend.[26][27][28] The feasibility and exact methods of resource allocation and calculation for a socialist system are the subjects of the socialist calculation debate.

    ROFL what socialist country had democratic control of trhe means of production? Russia? China? N. Korea?

    They have a little democratic vote on who goes to the death camps? Who gets shot in the back of the head etc?

    Socialist's suck, they'll always suck. it doesn't work and it's fundamentally wrong.

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Huh?

    Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production;[10] as well as the political ideologies, theories, and movements that aim at their establishment.[11] Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective, or cooperative ownership; to citizen ownership of equity; or to any combination of these.[12] Although there are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[13] social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.[5][14][15]

    Socialist economic systems can be divided into both non-market and market forms.[16] Non-market socialism involves the substitution of factor markets and money with engineering and technical criteria based on calculation performed in-kind, thereby producing an economic mechanism that functions according to different economic laws from those of capitalism. Non-market socialism aims to circumvent the inefficiencies and crises traditionally associated with capital accumulation and the profit system.[25] By contrast, market socialism retains the use of monetary prices, factor markets, and, in some cases, the profit motive with respect to the operation of socially-owned enterprises and the allocation of capital goods between them. Profits generated by these firms would be controlled directly by the workforce of each firm or accrue to society at large in the form of a social dividend.[26][27][28] The feasibility and exact methods of resource allocation and calculation for a socialist system are the subjects of the socialist calculation debate.

    ROFL what socialist country had democratic control of trhe means of production? Russia? China? N. Korea?

    They have a little democratic vote on who goes to the death camps? Who gets shot in the back of the head etc?

    Socialist's suck, they'll always suck. it doesn't work and it's fundamentally wrong.

    Learn the difference between socialism and communism.

    Not to mention, no one disagrees that socialists suck. No one is actually proposing socialism in the US.

    But how are you fucktarded?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,416 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2016
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Huh?

    Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production;[10] as well as the political ideologies, theories, and movements that aim at their establishment.[11] Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective, or cooperative ownership; to citizen ownership of equity; or to any combination of these.[12] Although there are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[13] social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.[5][14][15]

    Socialist economic systems can be divided into both non-market and market forms.[16] Non-market socialism involves the substitution of factor markets and money with engineering and technical criteria based on calculation performed in-kind, thereby producing an economic mechanism that functions according to different economic laws from those of capitalism. Non-market socialism aims to circumvent the inefficiencies and crises traditionally associated with capital accumulation and the profit system.[25] By contrast, market socialism retains the use of monetary prices, factor markets, and, in some cases, the profit motive with respect to the operation of socially-owned enterprises and the allocation of capital goods between them. Profits generated by these firms would be controlled directly by the workforce of each firm or accrue to society at large in the form of a social dividend.[26][27][28] The feasibility and exact methods of resource allocation and calculation for a socialist system are the subjects of the socialist calculation debate.

    ROFL what socialist country had democratic control of trhe means of production? Russia? China? N. Korea?

    They have a little democratic vote on who goes to the death camps? Who gets shot in the back of the head etc?

    Socialist's suck, they'll always suck. it doesn't work and it's fundamentally wrong.

    Learn the difference between socialism and communism.

    Not to mention, no one disagrees that socialists suck. No one is actually proposing socialism in the US.

    But how are you fucktarded?
    Really didn't a guy named Bernie claiming to be a socialist get cheated out of the democratic nomination? He wanted to take money from working people and give it to lazy people. So no one is actually proposing socialism?

    Socialism and communism are alike in that both are systems of production for use based on public ownership of the means of production and centralized planning. Socialism grows directly out of capitalism; it is the first form of the new society. Communism is a further development or "higher stage" of socialism.

    Guess you don't get it.

    Talk about fucktarded.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Huh?

    Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production;[10] as well as the political ideologies, theories, and movements that aim at their establishment.[11] Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective, or cooperative ownership; to citizen ownership of equity; or to any combination of these.[12] Although there are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[13] social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.[5][14][15]

    Socialist economic systems can be divided into both non-market and market forms.[16] Non-market socialism involves the substitution of factor markets and money with engineering and technical criteria based on calculation performed in-kind, thereby producing an economic mechanism that functions according to different economic laws from those of capitalism. Non-market socialism aims to circumvent the inefficiencies and crises traditionally associated with capital accumulation and the profit system.[25] By contrast, market socialism retains the use of monetary prices, factor markets, and, in some cases, the profit motive with respect to the operation of socially-owned enterprises and the allocation of capital goods between them. Profits generated by these firms would be controlled directly by the workforce of each firm or accrue to society at large in the form of a social dividend.[26][27][28] The feasibility and exact methods of resource allocation and calculation for a socialist system are the subjects of the socialist calculation debate.

    ROFL what socialist country had democratic control of trhe means of production? Russia? China? N. Korea?

    They have a little democratic vote on who goes to the death camps? Who gets shot in the back of the head etc?

    Socialist's suck, they'll always suck. it doesn't work and it's fundamentally wrong.

    Learn the difference between socialism and communism.

    Not to mention, no one disagrees that socialists suck. No one is actually proposing socialism in the US.

    But how are you fucktarded?
    Really didn't a guy named Bernie claiming to be a socialist get cheated out of the democratic nomination? He wanted to take money from working people and give it to lazy people. So no one is actually proposing socialism?

    Socialism and communism are alike in that both are systems of production for use based on public ownership of the means of production and centralized planning. Socialism grows directly out of capitalism; it is the first form of the new society. Communism is a further development or "higher stage" of socialism.

    Guess you don't get it.

    Talk about fucktarded.
    Bernie was proposing a fucked up version of social distribution of wealth. Not socialism. The key to both socialism and communism is government ownership of production. Which Bernie was not proposing and pretty much everyone agrees that government ownership of production is fucktarded.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,986 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2016
    So, Bernie was just proposing that working people pay higher taxes to feed the able-bodied guys holding signs at the freeway off-ramps and residents of the Jungle. And free college for more dumb kids who don't belong there, to do sit-ins, campouts, and traffic-blocking protests instead of going to classes they're failing. Is that about it for Bernie's platform?
    I liked Bernie until his capitulation to BLM thugs and his college-for-all proposal. That's when I realized he was a senile old fool.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,242
    dnc said:

    I can't even enjoy a good cripple fight anymore thanks to these two shitheads.

    Is it Friday yet?

    No shit. These two should get thrown in a cage to fight to the death.



    Winner gets shot in the face.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,416 Standard Supporter
    Dflea is like having a retarded little brother along on a date and he's drooling on her. Never in the action just sits watching drooling on his shirt.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dflea said:

    Sledog is like the retarded older brother on the farm who keeps getting caught being fucked by the animals.

    One of your dads should have fed you to the hogs.











    Mrhands
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,416 Standard Supporter
    Sven, Dflea, Hondo,
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,804
    Sledog said:

    Sven, Dflea, Hondo,

    Chincredibled for the pic, but wanted to flag you too since you've been here too long to still not know how to insert a pic you uploaded.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    Sven, Dflea, Hondo,

    I accept your classy concession.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    Sven, Dflea, Hondo,

    Chincredibled for the pic, but wanted to flag you too since you've been here too long to still not know how to insert a pic you uploaded.
    Or grow the hell up and use Imgur instead. Bandwidth massacre, indeed.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,539 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    Dflea is like having a retarded little brother along on a date and he's drooling on her. Never in the action just sits watching drooling on his shirt.

    Down vote for not dropping him off in the middle of the freeway
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,416 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    Sven, Dflea, Hondo,

    Chincredibled for the pic, but wanted to flag you too since you've been here too long to still not know how to insert a pic you uploaded.
    Yeah well I only have a few minutes at a time for this. I'll try and ask someone younger.
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