Government Shuts Down. . .
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Anyone have any estimates of when the govt might start back up? I am having some problems w/ the USDA
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The problem with that strategy is that cocksucker is so arrogant that he thinks those of us who were promised Elysium Gardens if we gave a limb and all that happy horseshit were going to give up our convictions and suck his dick over this if our promised benefits got taken away.RaceBannon said:The shut down is carefully crafted to fuck people like Loop so he'll buy the lunacy being peddled by tailwager. Kicking people out of Yosemite, blocking wide open monuments and shit while 82% of the government continues stealing us blind.
Yeah it's the tea party
People are fucking stupid
Not the case
A community organizer has no goddam clue what we've "given up".
This shit is easy.
Walk a mile in one of my Soldiers boots Commander in Chief
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And abolishing Obamacare will prevent premiums from increasing....... how? The point of any kind of reform is to somehow make the healthcare system universally available to all at an affordable price. If nothing is done to stabilize costs, health insurance premiums will continue to increase at the current rate or worse pricing out more and more employer provided insurance as well as individual.MikeDamone said:It falls on the backs of the middle class. They will see their premiums go up and many families that are now covered will lose it as companies move to only cover the employee. Most of the middle class won't get much, if any subsidy to buy insurance from the exchanges (which are more expensive than pre ACA plans). The poor will get more free coverage, the rich don't give a fuck. The average family will pay serval thousands a year more. They should all say "fuck you", pay the penalty, and then get insurance when they need it.
I don't believe Obamacare is the answer to the our healthcare system's cost and availability problems, but if reform isn't attempted, the system will eventually collapse when too few Americans can afford it. It's then that a healthcare system dependant on socialized (government owned and operated) medicine will become all that's available to most of us. No reform is not an option and Obamacare is worth at least a shot from which some of you anti-government advocates might learn something.
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Seriously? Spoken like a true statist that can't think beyond the government tit. There is no cost reform here and yes, this system will collapse. And it's the middle class, once again, who will get fucked.Tailgater said:
And abolishing Obamacare will prevent premiums from increasing....... how? The point of any kind of reform is to somehow make the healthcare system universally available to all at an affordable price. If nothing is done to stabilize costs, health insurance premiums will continue to increase at the current rate or worse pricing out more and more employer provided insurance as well as individual.MikeDamone said:It falls on the backs of the middle class. They will see their premiums go up and many families that are now covered will lose it as companies move to only cover the employee. Most of the middle class won't get much, if any subsidy to buy insurance from the exchanges (which are more expensive than pre ACA plans). The poor will get more free coverage, the rich don't give a fuck. The average family will pay serval thousands a year more. They should all say "fuck you", pay the penalty, and then get insurance when they need it.
I don't believe Obamacare is the answer to the our healthcare system's cost and availability problems, but if reform isn't attempted, the system will eventually collapse when too few Americans can afford it. It's then that a healthcare system dependant on socialized (government owned and operated) medicine will become all that's available to most of us. No reform is not an option and Obamacare is worth at least a shot from which some of you anti-government advocates might learn something.
You don't think Obamacare is the answer, but it's worth a shot? The fuck? If is not the answer, then why do it? How about doing something that makes sense instead? -
DugtheDoog said:
Good. Now hopefully the big government liberals will realize you don't need the federal government to hold your hand to survive.
The lack of counter proposals or alternate plans is sad.MikeDamone said:
Seriously? Spoken like a true statist that can't think beyond the government tit. There is no cost reform here and yes, this system will collapse. And it's the middle class, once again, who will get fucked.Tailgater said:
And abolishing Obamacare will prevent premiums from increasing....... how? The point of any kind of reform is to somehow make the healthcare system universally available to all at an affordable price. If nothing is done to stabilize costs, health insurance premiums will continue to increase at the current rate or worse pricing out more and more employer provided insurance as well as individual.MikeDamone said:It falls on the backs of the middle class. They will see their premiums go up and many families that are now covered will lose it as companies move to only cover the employee. Most of the middle class won't get much, if any subsidy to buy insurance from the exchanges (which are more expensive than pre ACA plans). The poor will get more free coverage, the rich don't give a fuck. The average family will pay serval thousands a year more. They should all say "fuck you", pay the penalty, and then get insurance when they need it.
I don't believe Obamacare is the answer to the our healthcare system's cost and availability problems, but if reform isn't attempted, the system will eventually collapse when too few Americans can afford it. It's then that a healthcare system dependant on socialized (government owned and operated) medicine will become all that's available to most of us. No reform is not an option and Obamacare is worth at least a shot from which some of you anti-government advocates might learn something.
You don't think Obamacare is the answer, but it's worth a shot? The fuck? If is not the answer, then why do it? How about doing something that makes sense instead?
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Any counter proposal that doesn't include the federal government as the primary distributor of health care is a non starter. That's a problem.ThomasFremont said:DugtheDoog said:Good. Now hopefully the big government liberals will realize you don't need the federal government to hold your hand to survive.
The lack of counter proposals or alternate plans is sad.MikeDamone said:
Seriously? Spoken like a true statist that can't think beyond the government tit. There is no cost reform here and yes, this system will collapse. And it's the middle class, once again, who will get fucked.Tailgater said:
And abolishing Obamacare will prevent premiums from increasing....... how? The point of any kind of reform is to somehow make the healthcare system universally available to all at an affordable price. If nothing is done to stabilize costs, health insurance premiums will continue to increase at the current rate or worse pricing out more and more employer provided insurance as well as individual.MikeDamone said:It falls on the backs of the middle class. They will see their premiums go up and many families that are now covered will lose it as companies move to only cover the employee. Most of the middle class won't get much, if any subsidy to buy insurance from the exchanges (which are more expensive than pre ACA plans). The poor will get more free coverage, the rich don't give a fuck. The average family will pay serval thousands a year more. They should all say "fuck you", pay the penalty, and then get insurance when they need it.
I don't believe Obamacare is the answer to the our healthcare system's cost and availability problems, but if reform isn't attempted, the system will eventually collapse when too few Americans can afford it. It's then that a healthcare system dependant on socialized (government owned and operated) medicine will become all that's available to most of us. No reform is not an option and Obamacare is worth at least a shot from which some of you anti-government advocates might learn something.
You don't think Obamacare is the answer, but it's worth a shot? The fuck? If is not the answer, then why do it? How about doing something that makes sense instead? -
Who can we hire if we fire Ty? How bout we ditch this piece of shit and go from there?
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I don't think Sark is the answer but he's worth a shot. What could go wrong?Tailgater said:
And abolishing Obamacare will prevent premiums from increasing....... how? The point of any kind of reform is to somehow make the healthcare system universally available to all at an affordable price. If nothing is done to stabilize costs, health insurance premiums will continue to increase at the current rate or worse pricing out more and more employer provided insurance as well as individual.MikeDamone said:It falls on the backs of the middle class. They will see their premiums go up and many families that are now covered will lose it as companies move to only cover the employee. Most of the middle class won't get much, if any subsidy to buy insurance from the exchanges (which are more expensive than pre ACA plans). The poor will get more free coverage, the rich don't give a fuck. The average family will pay serval thousands a year more. They should all say "fuck you", pay the penalty, and then get insurance when they need it.
I don't believe Obamacare is the answer to the our healthcare system's cost and availability problems, but if reform isn't attempted, the system will eventually collapse when too few Americans can afford it. It's then that a healthcare system dependant on socialized (government owned and operated) medicine will become all that's available to most of us. No reform is not an option and Obamacare is worth at least a shot from which some of you anti-government advocates might learn something.
