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How Iran spent Obama's $400 million cash ransom payment
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If they take you out I'll consider it money well spentSledog said:
...funding terrorists who will use it to kill our people.2001400ex said:
From Wikipedia and that's what happened. Your mind just won't wrap around the fact that Reagan would do the same thing Obama did.Sledog said:
At the time Iran was at war with Iraq. Kept both of them killing each other and we funded the Contra's out of the profits to fight your comrades. Good idea but not legal. We did not pay for hostages.2001400ex said:
You were bitching about giving money to Iran for hostages. I show you Regan gave guns to Iran for hostages. Then you deflect to giving guns to al quada and ISIS. Which is another lie. You actually lie like Hillary.Sledog said:
So your saying because more people weren't prosecuted it's OK now? We don't need to declassify anything well just ask Wiki or Putin for the hacked secret emails.2001400ex said:
I guess Reagan gave them guns rather than money. But still.Sledog said:
No I would not. This makes the US a target for hostage taking. We do not negotiate with terrorists they should only be paid in lead or C4.2001400ex said:
It was ransom and a payment for prior debt. Who gives a fuck? If it were Trump, you'd call him a hero for getting prisoners released.Sledog said:Nothing to see here move along people.....
And Iran isn't the #1 facilitator of terrorism.
The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ماجراي ایران-کنترا, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several U.S. hostages and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
The scandal began as an operation to free the seven American hostages being held in Lebanon by Hezbollah, a paramilitary group with Iranian ties connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the United States would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of the U.S. hostages.[4][5] Large modifications to the plan were devised by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985, in which a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua.[4]
While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,[6] the evidence is disputed as to whether he authorized the diversion of the money raised by the Iranian arms sales to the Contras.[4][5][7] Handwritten notes taken by Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger on December 7, 1985, indicate that Reagan was aware of potential hostage transfers with Iran, as well as the sale of Hawk and TOW missiles to "moderate elements" within that country.[8] Weinberger wrote that Reagan said "he could answer to charges of illegality but couldn't answer to the charge that 'big strong President Reagan passed up a chance to free the hostages'".[8] After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages.[9] The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.[10] On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages".[11]
Several investigations ensued, including those by the U.S. Congress and the three-person, Reagan-appointed Tower Commission. Neither found any evidence that President Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs.[4][5][7] Ultimately the sale of weapons to Iran was not deemed a criminal offense but charges were brought against five individuals for their support of the Contras. Those charges, however, were later dropped because the administration refused to declassify certain documents. The indicted conspirators faced various lesser charges instead. In the end, fourteen administration officials were indicted, including then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger. Eleven convictions resulted, some of which were vacated on appeal.[12] The rest of those indicted or convicted were all pardoned in the final days of the presidency of George H. W. Bush, who had been vice-president at the time of the affair.[13]
Providing arms to AL Qaueda and ISIS is quite a bit different. We're actively fighting both. Didn't think we were at war with Iran.
Nice deflection BTW. You are awful at this.
Holy smokes you lift that from an Iranian news site? \ -
The DOJ disagrees with youSledog said:
Iran is still under sanctions and the cash transaction was actually illegal. But the dictator is above the law.2001400ex said:
From Wikipedia and that's what happened. Your mind just won't wrap around the fact that Reagan would do the same thing Obama did.Sledog said:
At the time Iran was at war with Iraq. Kept both of them killing each other and we funded the Contra's out of the profits to fight your comrades. Good idea but not legal. We did not pay for hostages.2001400ex said:
You were bitching about giving money to Iran for hostages. I show you Regan gave guns to Iran for hostages. Then you deflect to giving guns to al quada and ISIS. Which is another lie. You actually lie like Hillary.Sledog said:
So your saying because more people weren't prosecuted it's OK now? We don't need to declassify anything well just ask Wiki or Putin for the hacked secret emails.2001400ex said:
I guess Reagan gave them guns rather than money. But still.Sledog said:
No I would not. This makes the US a target for hostage taking. We do not negotiate with terrorists they should only be paid in lead or C4.2001400ex said:
It was ransom and a payment for prior debt. Who gives a fuck? If it were Trump, you'd call him a hero for getting prisoners released.Sledog said:Nothing to see here move along people.....
And Iran isn't the #1 facilitator of terrorism.
The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ماجراي ایران-کنترا, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several U.S. hostages and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
The scandal began as an operation to free the seven American hostages being held in Lebanon by Hezbollah, a paramilitary group with Iranian ties connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the United States would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of the U.S. hostages.[4][5] Large modifications to the plan were devised by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985, in which a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua.[4]
While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,[6] the evidence is disputed as to whether he authorized the diversion of the money raised by the Iranian arms sales to the Contras.[4][5][7] Handwritten notes taken by Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger on December 7, 1985, indicate that Reagan was aware of potential hostage transfers with Iran, as well as the sale of Hawk and TOW missiles to "moderate elements" within that country.[8] Weinberger wrote that Reagan said "he could answer to charges of illegality but couldn't answer to the charge that 'big strong President Reagan passed up a chance to free the hostages'".[8] After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages.[9] The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.[10] On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages".[11]
Several investigations ensued, including those by the U.S. Congress and the three-person, Reagan-appointed Tower Commission. Neither found any evidence that President Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs.[4][5][7] Ultimately the sale of weapons to Iran was not deemed a criminal offense but charges were brought against five individuals for their support of the Contras. Those charges, however, were later dropped because the administration refused to declassify certain documents. The indicted conspirators faced various lesser charges instead. In the end, fourteen administration officials were indicted, including then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger. Eleven convictions resulted, some of which were vacated on appeal.[12] The rest of those indicted or convicted were all pardoned in the final days of the presidency of George H. W. Bush, who had been vice-president at the time of the affair.[13]
Providing arms to AL Qaueda and ISIS is quite a bit different. We're actively fighting both. Didn't think we were at war with Iran.
Nice deflection BTW. You are awful at this.
Holy smokes you lift that from an Iranian news site? \
Your saying Obama can do it because Reagan did is deflection. Directly funding terrorists is also illegal. Iran is a terrorismust sponsor. Your guy pulled this shit. By your analogy no crime was committed by Reagan because he wasn't convicted so stop deflecting and slap your homeboy down for funding terrorists who will use it to kill our people. -
I see they shot you in the head.Peterman said:
If they take you out I'll consider it money well spentSledog said:
...funding terrorists who will use it to kill our people.2001400ex said:
From Wikipedia and that's what happened. Your mind just won't wrap around the fact that Reagan would do the same thing Obama did.Sledog said:
At the time Iran was at war with Iraq. Kept both of them killing each other and we funded the Contra's out of the profits to fight your comrades. Good idea but not legal. We did not pay for hostages.2001400ex said:
You were bitching about giving money to Iran for hostages. I show you Regan gave guns to Iran for hostages. Then you deflect to giving guns to al quada and ISIS. Which is another lie. You actually lie like Hillary.Sledog said:
So your saying because more people weren't prosecuted it's OK now? We don't need to declassify anything well just ask Wiki or Putin for the hacked secret emails.2001400ex said:
I guess Reagan gave them guns rather than money. But still.Sledog said:
No I would not. This makes the US a target for hostage taking. We do not negotiate with terrorists they should only be paid in lead or C4.2001400ex said:
It was ransom and a payment for prior debt. Who gives a fuck? If it were Trump, you'd call him a hero for getting prisoners released.Sledog said:Nothing to see here move along people.....
And Iran isn't the #1 facilitator of terrorism.
The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ماجراي ایران-کنترا, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several U.S. hostages and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
The scandal began as an operation to free the seven American hostages being held in Lebanon by Hezbollah, a paramilitary group with Iranian ties connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the United States would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of the U.S. hostages.[4][5] Large modifications to the plan were devised by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985, in which a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua.[4]
While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,[6] the evidence is disputed as to whether he authorized the diversion of the money raised by the Iranian arms sales to the Contras.[4][5][7] Handwritten notes taken by Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger on December 7, 1985, indicate that Reagan was aware of potential hostage transfers with Iran, as well as the sale of Hawk and TOW missiles to "moderate elements" within that country.[8] Weinberger wrote that Reagan said "he could answer to charges of illegality but couldn't answer to the charge that 'big strong President Reagan passed up a chance to free the hostages'".[8] After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages.[9] The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.[10] On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages".[11]
Several investigations ensued, including those by the U.S. Congress and the three-person, Reagan-appointed Tower Commission. Neither found any evidence that President Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs.[4][5][7] Ultimately the sale of weapons to Iran was not deemed a criminal offense but charges were brought against five individuals for their support of the Contras. Those charges, however, were later dropped because the administration refused to declassify certain documents. The indicted conspirators faced various lesser charges instead. In the end, fourteen administration officials were indicted, including then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger. Eleven convictions resulted, some of which were vacated on appeal.[12] The rest of those indicted or convicted were all pardoned in the final days of the presidency of George H. W. Bush, who had been vice-president at the time of the affair.[13]
Providing arms to AL Qaueda and ISIS is quite a bit different. We're actively fighting both. Didn't think we were at war with Iran.
Nice deflection BTW. You are awful at this.
Holy smokes you lift that from an Iranian news site? \ -
Really when did they say so?BearsWiin said:
The DOJ disagrees with youSledog said:
Iran is still under sanctions and the cash transaction was actually illegal. But the dictator is above the law.2001400ex said:
From Wikipedia and that's what happened. Your mind just won't wrap around the fact that Reagan would do the same thing Obama did.Sledog said:
At the time Iran was at war with Iraq. Kept both of them killing each other and we funded the Contra's out of the profits to fight your comrades. Good idea but not legal. We did not pay for hostages.2001400ex said:
You were bitching about giving money to Iran for hostages. I show you Regan gave guns to Iran for hostages. Then you deflect to giving guns to al quada and ISIS. Which is another lie. You actually lie like Hillary.Sledog said:
So your saying because more people weren't prosecuted it's OK now? We don't need to declassify anything well just ask Wiki or Putin for the hacked secret emails.2001400ex said:
I guess Reagan gave them guns rather than money. But still.Sledog said:
No I would not. This makes the US a target for hostage taking. We do not negotiate with terrorists they should only be paid in lead or C4.2001400ex said:
It was ransom and a payment for prior debt. Who gives a fuck? If it were Trump, you'd call him a hero for getting prisoners released.Sledog said:Nothing to see here move along people.....
And Iran isn't the #1 facilitator of terrorism.
The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ماجراي ایران-کنترا, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several U.S. hostages and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
The scandal began as an operation to free the seven American hostages being held in Lebanon by Hezbollah, a paramilitary group with Iranian ties connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the United States would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of the U.S. hostages.[4][5] Large modifications to the plan were devised by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985, in which a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua.[4]
While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,[6] the evidence is disputed as to whether he authorized the diversion of the money raised by the Iranian arms sales to the Contras.[4][5][7] Handwritten notes taken by Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger on December 7, 1985, indicate that Reagan was aware of potential hostage transfers with Iran, as well as the sale of Hawk and TOW missiles to "moderate elements" within that country.[8] Weinberger wrote that Reagan said "he could answer to charges of illegality but couldn't answer to the charge that 'big strong President Reagan passed up a chance to free the hostages'".[8] After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages.[9] The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.[10] On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages".[11]
Several investigations ensued, including those by the U.S. Congress and the three-person, Reagan-appointed Tower Commission. Neither found any evidence that President Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs.[4][5][7] Ultimately the sale of weapons to Iran was not deemed a criminal offense but charges were brought against five individuals for their support of the Contras. Those charges, however, were later dropped because the administration refused to declassify certain documents. The indicted conspirators faced various lesser charges instead. In the end, fourteen administration officials were indicted, including then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger. Eleven convictions resulted, some of which were vacated on appeal.[12] The rest of those indicted or convicted were all pardoned in the final days of the presidency of George H. W. Bush, who had been vice-president at the time of the affair.[13]
Providing arms to AL Qaueda and ISIS is quite a bit different. We're actively fighting both. Didn't think we were at war with Iran.
Nice deflection BTW. You are awful at this.
Holy smokes you lift that from an Iranian news site? \
Your saying Obama can do it because Reagan did is deflection. Directly funding terrorists is also illegal. Iran is a terrorismust sponsor. Your guy pulled this shit. By your analogy no crime was committed by Reagan because he wasn't convicted so stop deflecting and slap your homeboy down for funding terrorists who will use it to kill our people. -
Ransom.
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Read the WSJ article again. Or maybe for the first time.Sledog said:
Really when did they say so?BearsWiin said:
The DOJ disagrees with youSledog said:
Iran is still under sanctions and the cash transaction was actually illegal. But the dictator is above the law.2001400ex said:
From Wikipedia and that's what happened. Your mind just won't wrap around the fact that Reagan would do the same thing Obama did.Sledog said:
At the time Iran was at war with Iraq. Kept both of them killing each other and we funded the Contra's out of the profits to fight your comrades. Good idea but not legal. We did not pay for hostages.2001400ex said:
You were bitching about giving money to Iran for hostages. I show you Regan gave guns to Iran for hostages. Then you deflect to giving guns to al quada and ISIS. Which is another lie. You actually lie like Hillary.Sledog said:
So your saying because more people weren't prosecuted it's OK now? We don't need to declassify anything well just ask Wiki or Putin for the hacked secret emails.2001400ex said:
I guess Reagan gave them guns rather than money. But still.Sledog said:
No I would not. This makes the US a target for hostage taking. We do not negotiate with terrorists they should only be paid in lead or C4.2001400ex said:
It was ransom and a payment for prior debt. Who gives a fuck? If it were Trump, you'd call him a hero for getting prisoners released.Sledog said:Nothing to see here move along people.....
And Iran isn't the #1 facilitator of terrorism.
The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ماجراي ایران-کنترا, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several U.S. hostages and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
The scandal began as an operation to free the seven American hostages being held in Lebanon by Hezbollah, a paramilitary group with Iranian ties connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the United States would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of the U.S. hostages.[4][5] Large modifications to the plan were devised by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985, in which a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua.[4]
While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,[6] the evidence is disputed as to whether he authorized the diversion of the money raised by the Iranian arms sales to the Contras.[4][5][7] Handwritten notes taken by Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger on December 7, 1985, indicate that Reagan was aware of potential hostage transfers with Iran, as well as the sale of Hawk and TOW missiles to "moderate elements" within that country.[8] Weinberger wrote that Reagan said "he could answer to charges of illegality but couldn't answer to the charge that 'big strong President Reagan passed up a chance to free the hostages'".[8] After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages.[9] The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.[10] On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages".[11]
Several investigations ensued, including those by the U.S. Congress and the three-person, Reagan-appointed Tower Commission. Neither found any evidence that President Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs.[4][5][7] Ultimately the sale of weapons to Iran was not deemed a criminal offense but charges were brought against five individuals for their support of the Contras. Those charges, however, were later dropped because the administration refused to declassify certain documents. The indicted conspirators faced various lesser charges instead. In the end, fourteen administration officials were indicted, including then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger. Eleven convictions resulted, some of which were vacated on appeal.[12] The rest of those indicted or convicted were all pardoned in the final days of the presidency of George H. W. Bush, who had been vice-president at the time of the affair.[13]
Providing arms to AL Qaueda and ISIS is quite a bit different. We're actively fighting both. Didn't think we were at war with Iran.
Nice deflection BTW. You are awful at this.
Holy smokes you lift that from an Iranian news site? \
Your saying Obama can do it because Reagan did is deflection. Directly funding terrorists is also illegal. Iran is a terrorismust sponsor. Your guy pulled this shit. By your analogy no crime was committed by Reagan because he wasn't convicted so stop deflecting and slap your homeboy down for funding terrorists who will use it to kill our people. -
His legacy was alive and well at the DNC.RaceBannon said:Reagan is dead if you haven't fucking heard
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Where did I say Obama can do it, so can Reagan? The only thing I said, is you are too fucktarded to realize your hero did the same thing.Sledog said:
Iran is still under sanctions and the cash transaction was actually illegal. But the dictator is above the law.2001400ex said:
From Wikipedia and that's what happened. Your mind just won't wrap around the fact that Reagan would do the same thing Obama did.Sledog said:
At the time Iran was at war with Iraq. Kept both of them killing each other and we funded the Contra's out of the profits to fight your comrades. Good idea but not legal. We did not pay for hostages.2001400ex said:
You were bitching about giving money to Iran for hostages. I show you Regan gave guns to Iran for hostages. Then you deflect to giving guns to al quada and ISIS. Which is another lie. You actually lie like Hillary.Sledog said:
So your saying because more people weren't prosecuted it's OK now? We don't need to declassify anything well just ask Wiki or Putin for the hacked secret emails.2001400ex said:
I guess Reagan gave them guns rather than money. But still.Sledog said:
No I would not. This makes the US a target for hostage taking. We do not negotiate with terrorists they should only be paid in lead or C4.2001400ex said:
It was ransom and a payment for prior debt. Who gives a fuck? If it were Trump, you'd call him a hero for getting prisoners released.Sledog said:Nothing to see here move along people.....
And Iran isn't the #1 facilitator of terrorism.
The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ماجراي ایران-کنترا, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several U.S. hostages and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
The scandal began as an operation to free the seven American hostages being held in Lebanon by Hezbollah, a paramilitary group with Iranian ties connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the United States would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of the U.S. hostages.[4][5] Large modifications to the plan were devised by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985, in which a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua.[4]
While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,[6] the evidence is disputed as to whether he authorized the diversion of the money raised by the Iranian arms sales to the Contras.[4][5][7] Handwritten notes taken by Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger on December 7, 1985, indicate that Reagan was aware of potential hostage transfers with Iran, as well as the sale of Hawk and TOW missiles to "moderate elements" within that country.[8] Weinberger wrote that Reagan said "he could answer to charges of illegality but couldn't answer to the charge that 'big strong President Reagan passed up a chance to free the hostages'".[8] After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages.[9] The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.[10] On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages".[11]
Several investigations ensued, including those by the U.S. Congress and the three-person, Reagan-appointed Tower Commission. Neither found any evidence that President Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs.[4][5][7] Ultimately the sale of weapons to Iran was not deemed a criminal offense but charges were brought against five individuals for their support of the Contras. Those charges, however, were later dropped because the administration refused to declassify certain documents. The indicted conspirators faced various lesser charges instead. In the end, fourteen administration officials were indicted, including then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger. Eleven convictions resulted, some of which were vacated on appeal.[12] The rest of those indicted or convicted were all pardoned in the final days of the presidency of George H. W. Bush, who had been vice-president at the time of the affair.[13]
Providing arms to AL Qaueda and ISIS is quite a bit different. We're actively fighting both. Didn't think we were at war with Iran.
Nice deflection BTW. You are awful at this.
Holy smokes you lift that from an Iranian news site? \
Your saying Obama can do it because Reagan did is deflection. Directly funding terrorists is also illegal. Iran is a terrorismust sponsor. Your guy pulled this shit. By your analogy no crime was committed by Reagan because he wasn't convicted so stop deflecting and slap your homeboy down for funding terrorists who will use it to kill our people. -
I liked Ronnie. Made good money in the 80's built businesses it was good times. Unlike the current socialist slump.2001400ex said:
Where did I say Obama can do it, so can Reagan? The only thing I said, is you are too fucktarded to realize your hero did the same thing.Sledog said:
Iran is still under sanctions and the cash transaction was actually illegal. But the dictator is above the law.2001400ex said:
From Wikipedia and that's what happened. Your mind just won't wrap around the fact that Reagan would do the same thing Obama did.Sledog said:
At the time Iran was at war with Iraq. Kept both of them killing each other and we funded the Contra's out of the profits to fight your comrades. Good idea but not legal. We did not pay for hostages.2001400ex said:
You were bitching about giving money to Iran for hostages. I show you Regan gave guns to Iran for hostages. Then you deflect to giving guns to al quada and ISIS. Which is another lie. You actually lie like Hillary.Sledog said:
So your saying because more people weren't prosecuted it's OK now? We don't need to declassify anything well just ask Wiki or Putin for the hacked secret emails.2001400ex said:
I guess Reagan gave them guns rather than money. But still.Sledog said:
No I would not. This makes the US a target for hostage taking. We do not negotiate with terrorists they should only be paid in lead or C4.2001400ex said:
It was ransom and a payment for prior debt. Who gives a fuck? If it were Trump, you'd call him a hero for getting prisoners released.Sledog said:Nothing to see here move along people.....
And Iran isn't the #1 facilitator of terrorism.
The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ماجراي ایران-کنترا, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several U.S. hostages and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
The scandal began as an operation to free the seven American hostages being held in Lebanon by Hezbollah, a paramilitary group with Iranian ties connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the United States would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of the U.S. hostages.[4][5] Large modifications to the plan were devised by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985, in which a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua.[4]
While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,[6] the evidence is disputed as to whether he authorized the diversion of the money raised by the Iranian arms sales to the Contras.[4][5][7] Handwritten notes taken by Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger on December 7, 1985, indicate that Reagan was aware of potential hostage transfers with Iran, as well as the sale of Hawk and TOW missiles to "moderate elements" within that country.[8] Weinberger wrote that Reagan said "he could answer to charges of illegality but couldn't answer to the charge that 'big strong President Reagan passed up a chance to free the hostages'".[8] After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages.[9] The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.[10] On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages".[11]
Several investigations ensued, including those by the U.S. Congress and the three-person, Reagan-appointed Tower Commission. Neither found any evidence that President Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs.[4][5][7] Ultimately the sale of weapons to Iran was not deemed a criminal offense but charges were brought against five individuals for their support of the Contras. Those charges, however, were later dropped because the administration refused to declassify certain documents. The indicted conspirators faced various lesser charges instead. In the end, fourteen administration officials were indicted, including then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger. Eleven convictions resulted, some of which were vacated on appeal.[12] The rest of those indicted or convicted were all pardoned in the final days of the presidency of George H. W. Bush, who had been vice-president at the time of the affair.[13]
Providing arms to AL Qaueda and ISIS is quite a bit different. We're actively fighting both. Didn't think we were at war with Iran.
Nice deflection BTW. You are awful at this.
Holy smokes you lift that from an Iranian news site? \
Your saying Obama can do it because Reagan did is deflection. Directly funding terrorists is also illegal. Iran is a terrorismust sponsor. Your guy pulled this shit. By your analogy no crime was committed by Reagan because he wasn't convicted so stop deflecting and slap your homeboy down for funding terrorists who will use it to kill our people.
