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How Iran spent Obama's $400 million cash ransom payment
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Nothing to see here move along people.....
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It was ransom and a payment for prior debt. Who gives a fuck? If it were Trump, you'd call him a hero for getting prisoners released.Sledog said:Nothing to see here move along people.....
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http://m.state.gov/mc14151.htm2001400ex said:
It was random and a payment for prior debt. Who gives a fuck? If it were Trump, you'd call him a hero for getting prisoners released.Sledog said:Nothing to see here move along people.....
And Iran isn't the #1 facilitator of terrorism.
I'm sure the Sudan and Syria have a lot more resources to sponsor terrorism than Iran, even with the additional $400 million cash ransom and $1.7 billion overall Obama promised them...
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This thread is not about taint licking.
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Why do you hate Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Russia?HoustonHusky said:
http://m.state.gov/mc14151.htm2001400ex said:
It was random and a payment for prior debt. Who gives a fuck? If it were Trump, you'd call him a hero for getting prisoners released.Sledog said:Nothing to see here move along people.....
And Iran isn't the #1 facilitator of terrorism.
I'm sure the Sudan and Syria have a lot more resources to sponsor terrorism than Iran, even with the additional $400 million cash ransom and $1.7 billion overall Obama promised them...
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Sorry...I missed where Hillary Clinton's State Department labeled them as official state sponsors of terrorism. Link?2001400ex said:
Why do you hate Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Russia?HoustonHusky said:
http://m.state.gov/mc14151.htm2001400ex said:
It was random and a payment for prior debt. Who gives a fuck? If it were Trump, you'd call him a hero for getting prisoners released.Sledog said:Nothing to see here move along people.....
And Iran isn't the #1 facilitator of terrorism.
I'm sure the Sudan and Syria have a lot more resources to sponsor terrorism than Iran, even with the additional $400 million cash ransom and $1.7 billion overall Obama promised them...
HondoFS...
I also missed where Obama paid those governments large sums of cash For ransoms.
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No I would not. This makes the US a target for hostage taking. We do not negotiate with terrorists they should only be paid in lead or C4.2001400ex said:
It was ransom and a payment for prior debt. Who gives a fuck? If it were Trump, you'd call him a hero for getting prisoners released.Sledog said:Nothing to see here move along people.....
And Iran isn't the #1 facilitator of terrorism. -
What does bring a facilitator to terrorism have to do with being an official state sponsor of terrorism?HoustonHusky said:
Sorry...I missed where Hillary Clinton's State Department labeled them as official state sponsors of terrorism. Link?2001400ex said:
Why do you hate Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Russia?HoustonHusky said:
http://m.state.gov/mc14151.htm2001400ex said:
It was random and a payment for prior debt. Who gives a fuck? If it were Trump, you'd call him a hero for getting prisoners released.Sledog said:Nothing to see here move along people.....
And Iran isn't the #1 facilitator of terrorism.
I'm sure the Sudan and Syria have a lot more resources to sponsor terrorism than Iran, even with the additional $400 million cash ransom and $1.7 billion overall Obama promised them...
HondoFS...
I also missed where Obama paid those governments large sums of cash For ransoms.
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I guess Reagan gave them guns rather than money for hostages. But still.Sledog said:
No I would not. This makes the US a target for hostage taking. We do not negotiate with terrorists they should only be paid in lead or C4.2001400ex said:
It was ransom and a payment for prior debt. Who gives a fuck? If it were Trump, you'd call him a hero for getting prisoners released.Sledog said:Nothing to see here move along people.....
And Iran isn't the #1 facilitator of terrorism.
The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ماجراي ایران-کنترا, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several U.S. hostages and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
The scandal began as an operation to free the seven American hostages being held in Lebanon by Hezbollah, a paramilitary group with Iranian ties connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the United States would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of the U.S. hostages.[4][5] Large modifications to the plan were devised by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985, in which a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua.[4]
While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,[6] the evidence is disputed as to whether he authorized the diversion of the money raised by the Iranian arms sales to the Contras.[4][5][7] Handwritten notes taken by Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger on December 7, 1985, indicate that Reagan was aware of potential hostage transfers with Iran, as well as the sale of Hawk and TOW missiles to "moderate elements" within that country.[8] Weinberger wrote that Reagan said "he could answer to charges of illegality but couldn't answer to the charge that 'big strong President Reagan passed up a chance to free the hostages'".[8] After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages.[9] The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.[10] On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages".[11]
Several investigations ensued, including those by the U.S. Congress and the three-person, Reagan-appointed Tower Commission. Neither found any evidence that President Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs.[4][5][7] Ultimately the sale of weapons to Iran was not deemed a criminal offense but charges were brought against five individuals for their support of the Contras. Those charges, however, were later dropped because the administration refused to declassify certain documents. The indicted conspirators faced various lesser charges instead. In the end, fourteen administration officials were indicted, including then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger. Eleven convictions resulted, some of which were vacated on appeal.[12] The rest of those indicted or convicted were all pardoned in the final days of the presidency of George H. W. Bush, who had been vice-president at the time of the affair.[13] -
So your saying because more people weren't prosecuted it's OK now? We don't need to declassify anything well just ask Wiki or Putin for the hacked secret emails.2001400ex said:
I guess Reagan gave them guns rather than money. But still.Sledog said:
No I would not. This makes the US a target for hostage taking. We do not negotiate with terrorists they should only be paid in lead or C4.2001400ex said:
It was ransom and a payment for prior debt. Who gives a fuck? If it were Trump, you'd call him a hero for getting prisoners released.Sledog said:Nothing to see here move along people.....
And Iran isn't the #1 facilitator of terrorism.
The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ماجراي ایران-کنترا, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several U.S. hostages and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
The scandal began as an operation to free the seven American hostages being held in Lebanon by Hezbollah, a paramilitary group with Iranian ties connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the United States would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of the U.S. hostages.[4][5] Large modifications to the plan were devised by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985, in which a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua.[4]
While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,[6] the evidence is disputed as to whether he authorized the diversion of the money raised by the Iranian arms sales to the Contras.[4][5][7] Handwritten notes taken by Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger on December 7, 1985, indicate that Reagan was aware of potential hostage transfers with Iran, as well as the sale of Hawk and TOW missiles to "moderate elements" within that country.[8] Weinberger wrote that Reagan said "he could answer to charges of illegality but couldn't answer to the charge that 'big strong President Reagan passed up a chance to free the hostages'".[8] After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages.[9] The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.[10] On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages".[11]
Several investigations ensued, including those by the U.S. Congress and the three-person, Reagan-appointed Tower Commission. Neither found any evidence that President Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs.[4][5][7] Ultimately the sale of weapons to Iran was not deemed a criminal offense but charges were brought against five individuals for their support of the Contras. Those charges, however, were later dropped because the administration refused to declassify certain documents. The indicted conspirators faced various lesser charges instead. In the end, fourteen administration officials were indicted, including then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger. Eleven convictions resulted, some of which were vacated on appeal.[12] The rest of those indicted or convicted were all pardoned in the final days of the presidency of George H. W. Bush, who had been vice-president at the time of the affair.[13]
Providing arms to AL Qaueda and ISIS is quite a bit different. We're actively fighting both. Didn't think we were at war with Iran.
