trump chooses mike pence
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Pence isn't at all exciting, but he probably solidifies a chunk of the #NeverTrump conservatives. Not sure who would have gained him more people. Someone like Christie would have been worse IMO.
But as always, Trump's problem isn't his VP, it's Trump. -
Fuck. I was really hoping for a Trump/Palin ticket. This really goes against the reality TV politics I've come to love in the last 12 months.
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there really weren't that many never trump conservatives. most of them were just asshole establishment types that make up like 2% of the population. I still don't think they'd vote for him mostly because of his rhetoric on free trade.
The Bernie vote will likely be the key to the election. had trump just kept talking about chrony capitalism and immigration some of the sanders populists would have gone to him. Instead he's gone the retarded born again evangelical option for VP.
A guy like Gingrich while I hate him and is conservative on social issues, hasn't made being anti lgbt the cornerstone of his career. He would have been a better choice -
Did he have a choice?dhdawg said:there really weren't that many never trump conservatives. most of them were just asshole establishment types that make up like 2% of the population. I still don't think they'd vote for him mostly because of his rhetoric on free trade.
The Bernie vote will likely be the key to the election. had trump just kept talking about chrony capitalism and immigration some of the sanders populists would have gone to him. Instead he's gone the retarded born again evangelical option for VP.
A guy like Gingrich while I hate him and is conservative on social issues, hasn't made being anti lgbt the cornerstone of his career. He would have been a better choice
No - he can't win without them. -
Pence maybe helps solidify the base (big maybe) and brings some "insider" experience to the ticket. Might help bring home the Midwestern values thing as well since Trump hopes to put some of those blue states in play, but overall, this was a safe and weak choice. Should have swung for the fences with Newt. Then again I kill bugs. What the fuck do I know?
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There are a lot of evangelicals in the Never Trump end of things (not nearly as many as there should be IMO, but that's a different discussion). If this Pence thing is true, it is a clear move to go after that sector of the GOP base.dhdawg said:there really weren't that many never trump conservatives. most of them were just asshole establishment types that make up like 2% of the population. I still don't think they'd vote for him mostly because of his rhetoric on free trade.
The Bernie vote will likely be the key to the election. had trump just kept talking about chrony capitalism and immigration some of the sanders populists would have gone to him. Instead he's gone the retarded born again evangelical option for VP.
A guy like Gingrich while I hate him and is conservative on social issues, hasn't made being anti lgbt the cornerstone of his career. He would have been a better choice
Gingrich might have been a better choice as far as what he brings to the table but most everybody hates him on all sides. Pence is more of a lesser known. It will fire up the evangelical base, and piss off the social libs for sure. But I don't think it moves many people from voting for Trump to not.
I would have much rather seen him go libertarian but there wasn't really a libertarian in the running that I'm aware of. Pence is a better choice than Christie (who appeals to exactly the same people Trump does and that's it) or Palin (who everybody hates) or Gingrich (who everybody hates).
Tallest midget competition, for sure. -
At this point the polls are shifting his direction. He just needs to close his mouth a bit (easier said than done) and let Hillary (Doog legend) do what she does best....lose.
This campaign isn't about who wins, it's more about who doesn't lose.
If Trump runs a campaign on the border, Washington chronies, and national security, all these points hit to Hillary's weakest points, he'll win a close one. If he allows himself to get caught into the race wars, LGBT, etc. he gone. -
this. the loser of this election will have run the worst general election campaign of all timegreenblood said:At this point the polls are shifting his direction. He just needs to close his mouth a bit (easier said than done) and let Hillary (Doog legend) do what she does best....lose.
This campaign isn't about who wins, it's more about who doesn't lose.
If Trump runs a campaign on the border, Washington chronies, and national security, all these points hit to Hillary's weakest points, he'll win a close one. If he allows himself to get caught into the race wars, LGBT, etc. he gone. -
Libertarian would have been better, but I don't think any libertarian would have run with themdnc said:
There are a lot of evangelicals in the Never Trump end of things (not nearly as many as there should be IMO, but that's a different discussion). If this Pence thing is true, it is a clear move to go after that sector of the GOP base.dhdawg said:there really weren't that many never trump conservatives. most of them were just asshole establishment types that make up like 2% of the population. I still don't think they'd vote for him mostly because of his rhetoric on free trade.
The Bernie vote will likely be the key to the election. had trump just kept talking about chrony capitalism and immigration some of the sanders populists would have gone to him. Instead he's gone the retarded born again evangelical option for VP.
A guy like Gingrich while I hate him and is conservative on social issues, hasn't made being anti lgbt the cornerstone of his career. He would have been a better choice
Gingrich might have been a better choice as far as what he brings to the table but most everybody hates him on all sides. Pence is more of a lesser known. It will fire up the evangelical base, and piss off the social libs for sure. But I don't think it moves many people from voting for Trump to not.
I would have much rather seen him go libertarian but there wasn't really a libertarian in the running that I'm aware of. Pence is a better choice than Christie (who appeals to exactly the same people Trump does and that's it) or Palin (who everybody hates) or Gingrich (who everybody hates).
Tallest midget competition, for sure. -
And the winner will be the worst presodent of all time.dhdawg said:
this. the loser of this election will have run the worst general election campaign of all timegreenblood said:At this point the polls are shifting his direction. He just needs to close his mouth a bit (easier said than done) and let Hillary (Doog legend) do what she does best....lose.
This campaign isn't about who wins, it's more about who doesn't lose.
If Trump runs a campaign on the border, Washington chronies, and national security, all these points hit to Hillary's weakest points, he'll win a close one. If he allows himself to get caught into the race wars, LGBT, etc. he gone.
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Troofdhdawg said:
Libertarian would have been better, but I don't think any libertarian would have run with themdnc said:
There are a lot of evangelicals in the Never Trump end of things (not nearly as many as there should be IMO, but that's a different discussion). If this Pence thing is true, it is a clear move to go after that sector of the GOP base.dhdawg said:there really weren't that many never trump conservatives. most of them were just asshole establishment types that make up like 2% of the population. I still don't think they'd vote for him mostly because of his rhetoric on free trade.
The Bernie vote will likely be the key to the election. had trump just kept talking about chrony capitalism and immigration some of the sanders populists would have gone to him. Instead he's gone the retarded born again evangelical option for VP.
A guy like Gingrich while I hate him and is conservative on social issues, hasn't made being anti lgbt the cornerstone of his career. He would have been a better choice
Gingrich might have been a better choice as far as what he brings to the table but most everybody hates him on all sides. Pence is more of a lesser known. It will fire up the evangelical base, and piss off the social libs for sure. But I don't think it moves many people from voting for Trump to not.
I would have much rather seen him go libertarian but there wasn't really a libertarian in the running that I'm aware of. Pence is a better choice than Christie (who appeals to exactly the same people Trump does and that's it) or Palin (who everybody hates) or Gingrich (who everybody hates).
Tallest midget competition, for sure. -
Newt will likely be Trump's Chief of Staff
Christie with likely be the Attorney General -
a lot about sexual harassment...allegedlySwaye said:Pence maybe helps solidify the base (big maybe) and brings some "insider" experience to the ticket. Might help bring home the Midwestern values thing as well since Trump hopes to put some of those blue states in play, but overall, this was a safe and weak choice. Should have swung for the fences with Newt. Then again I kill bugs. What the fuck do I know?
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Yes. Trump has survived being portrayed as the KKK ring leader... But Pence is the reason why he will lose... Lol.
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Word.CuntWaffle said:Yes. Trump has survived being portrayed as the KKK ring leader... But Pence is the reason why he will lose... Lol.
All this criticism tells me Trump will win rather easily, say, 34-17. -
So much for Trump as the anti-globalist candidate!
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Just like that... My dream of the first Father/Daughter ticket has been dashed.
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I honestly think that this year, that the VP candidates, for the first time in a long time, means nothing. Both candidates are so cult of personality and polarizing that it just doesn't matter.
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Not necessarily...koopdog said:I honestly think that this year, that the VP candidates, for the first time in a long time, means nothing. Both candidates are so cult of personality and polarizing that it just doesn't matter.
It just means thinking outside the box. If Trump had somehow reached out to Cuban and got a Trump/Cuban ticket. Now, how that would work in Washington, I don't know, but that sure in heck would win a general election. -
I suspected that who ever Trump picked would suck.
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He wins here.greenblood said:At this point the polls are shifting his direction. He just needs to close his mouth a bit (easier said than done) and let Hillary (Doog legend) do what she does best....lose.
This campaign isn't about who wins, it's more about who doesn't lose.
If Trump runs a campaign on the border, Washington chronies, and national security, all these points hit to Hillary's weakest points, he'll win a close one. If he allows himself to get caught into the race wars, LGBT, etc. he gone.
His numbers are going up because people don't like to see cops get shot. -
Don't get this.
Doesn't help with Independents, and doesn't help with a critical state in the electoral math.
But how is this an awful pick? -
The blecks and browns hate the gays, too.topdawgnc said:
He wins here.greenblood said:At this point the polls are shifting his direction. He just needs to close his mouth a bit (easier said than done) and let Hillary (Doog legend) do what she does best....lose.
This campaign isn't about who wins, it's more about who doesn't lose.
If Trump runs a campaign on the border, Washington chronies, and national security, all these points hit to Hillary's weakest points, he'll win a close one. If he allows himself to get caught into the race wars, LGBT, etc. he gone.
His numbers are going up because people don't like to see cops get shot.
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Trump will win in a landslide
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Makes about as much difference as this which I'll leave right hereTierbsHsotBoobs said:I'll just leave this here
thepoliticalinsider.com/t-day-evergreen-7-wildest-lies-hillary-clinton/ -
So Trump brings in a bible thumper to appease the wingnuts?
Nice move.
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We know Hillary is a lying cunt.DerekJohnson said:
Makes about as much difference as this which I'll leave right hereTierbsHsotBoobs said:I'll just leave this here
thepoliticalinsider.com/t-day-evergreen-7-wildest-lies-hillary-clinton/
Some of you didn't know that Pence is a flip flopping fuckweasel. -
he has certainly been labeled a bigot and a racist, but few would put him on the same level as cruz/huck/etc on religious fanaticism.CuntWaffle said:Yes. Trump has survived being portrayed as the KKK ring leader... But Pence is the reason why he will lose... Lol.
Maybe I'm biased because I hate the theocratic element of the right more than it's "racism" personally -
What do you think when the article calling someone a liar is lying about calling someone a liar?DerekJohnson said:
Makes about as much difference as this which I'll leave right hereTierbsHsotBoobs said:I'll just leave this here
thepoliticalinsider.com/t-day-evergreen-7-wildest-lies-hillary-clinton/
Catch my drift?
