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Didn't mean to be in sarcasm mode sorry chuck. Your observations are appreciated.chuck said:
Fuck you it wasn't a scouting report. Just my quick assessment and an attempt at objectivity to temper the uproar that occurs every time someone that USC didn't offer commits to UW.FremontTroll said:
Great thanks for the scouting report.chuck said:Some people are a little too caught up in stars and offers. Watch the film. He's not an NFL prospect (small), but he's mobile, has a solid arm, solid mechanics, and looks pretty fucking good all around. Guys like this can tear it up in college. I don't give a fuck if we never recruit another NFL QB as long as he finds someone that can throw the ball to the guys in black and lavender and khaki and white.
One thing I like about his film over almost all HS QB films I've seen is how often he throws the ball hard. Too much touch pass shit going on in most QB films. Most any hack can throw it up for wide open receivers to run under, or swerve to, or stop for etc. All those lobs don't tell you if they have the knack for hitting a guy in stride when the defense forces you to throw hard.
If Smith stumbled into a diamond in the rough again this year then great.
The concern is that this makes two years in a row that Smith had no discernible plan for recruiting the QB position and offered and missed on nearly every big prospect on the west coast.
But you're absolutely right about Smith. No argument from me there. He's a liability in every aspect. -
Just watched the film and can say, coach Pete definitely got the next Kellen Moore. Slightly undersized, accurate passer, cerebral.
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Haha no worries. The fuck you wasn't really called for. Except that posting on this site does actually call for for it. Pretty sure it's in the rules.FremontTroll said:
Didn't mean to be in sarcasm mode sorry chuck. Your observations are appreciated.chuck said:
Fuck you it wasn't a scouting report. Just my quick assessment and an attempt at objectivity to temper the uproar that occurs every time someone that USC didn't offer commits to UW.FremontTroll said:
Great thanks for the scouting report.chuck said:Some people are a little too caught up in stars and offers. Watch the film. He's not an NFL prospect (small), but he's mobile, has a solid arm, solid mechanics, and looks pretty fucking good all around. Guys like this can tear it up in college. I don't give a fuck if we never recruit another NFL QB as long as he finds someone that can throw the ball to the guys in black and lavender and khaki and white.
One thing I like about his film over almost all HS QB films I've seen is how often he throws the ball hard. Too much touch pass shit going on in most QB films. Most any hack can throw it up for wide open receivers to run under, or swerve to, or stop for etc. All those lobs don't tell you if they have the knack for hitting a guy in stride when the defense forces you to throw hard.
If Smith stumbled into a diamond in the rough again this year then great.
The concern is that this makes two years in a row that Smith had no discernible plan for recruiting the QB position and offered and missed on nearly every big prospect on the west coast.
But you're absolutely right about Smith. No argument from me there. He's a liability in every aspect.
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If he came in a darker shade, he'd be the next Keith PriceAEB said:Just watched the film and can say, coach Pete definitely got the next Kellen Moore. Slightly undersized, accurate passer, cerebral.
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I thought of Price too, but then realized that's impossible. He looks like QB with some athleticism, rather than an athlete learning to play QB. More of a cerebral, lunch pail, gym rat type. Plus something else was just different about him that I couldn't put my finger on.bananasnblondes said:
If he came in a darker shade, he'd be the next Keith PriceAEB said:Just watched the film and can say, coach Pete definitely got the next Kellen Moore. Slightly undersized, accurate passer, cerebral.
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Is he a guy that you'd let your daughter date? A real film-room junkie with so many intangibles?AEB said:Just watched the film and can say, coach Pete definitely got the next Kellen Moore. Slightly undersized, accurate passer, cerebral.
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It doesn't matter what Smith thinks ... I'd be shocked if he ever coached this kid or Sirmon
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And if UW didn't have Browning, it probably would have landed Eason. And then maybe missed on Sirmon down the line.FremontTroll said:Recruits also watch who their coaches are going to be.
I could list a litany of examples of highly coveted QB recruits committing to programs with more crowded depth charts than UW. Elite schools with elite coaching staffs take an elite QB prospect every year. A good recruiter can always sell an opportunity no matter how small.
When we ended up with Derrick Brown in 2011 it was OK because we had Montana from 2010 and Lindquist coming in behind (and later Cyler.) Where would the program be if we had signed Mariota or Hundley? Probably still 7-6 but fuck....
Look, it'd be great if UW was one of those programs that could sign a 5-star QB every single year. It's not -- not yet, anyway. -
"Elite" QB recruits are a fantasy born in the heads of experts like Barton, Grinnolds, Fetters, etc. then repeated by lazy bloggers until they've convinced themselves of their genius.FremontTroll said:
Recruits also watch who their coaches are going to be.TTJ said:The '17 QB was always going to be an ins policy. DBG will be decent, and will nicely bridge Browning to Sirmon. Recruits watch each other, look at depth charts, want early PT. There are better indictments of Smith than this recruiting cycle.
I could list a litany of examples of highly coveted QB recruits committing to programs with more crowded depth charts than UW. Elite schools with elite coaching staffs take an elite QB prospect every year. A good recruiter can always sell an opportunity no matter how small.
When we ended up with Derrick Brown in 2011 it was OK because we had Montana from 2010 and Lindquist coming in behind (and later Cyler.) Where would the program be if we had signed Mariota or Hundley? Probably still 7-6 but fuck....
Montana, Lindquist, Miles, Brown... NONE of them were elite. NONE of them were even mediocre. ALL of them stole a spot on the roster and held the team back.
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Probably not and probably not but anyways....TTJ said:
And if UW didn't have Browning, it probably would have landed Eason. And then maybe missed on Sirmon down the line.FremontTroll said:Recruits also watch who their coaches are going to be.
I could list a litany of examples of highly coveted QB recruits committing to programs with more crowded depth charts than UW. Elite schools with elite coaching staffs take an elite QB prospect every year. A good recruiter can always sell an opportunity no matter how small.
When we ended up with Derrick Brown in 2011 it was OK because we had Montana from 2010 and Lindquist coming in behind (and later Cyler.) Where would the program be if we had signed Mariota or Hundley? Probably still 7-6 but fuck....
Look, it'd be great if UW was one of those programs that could sign a 5-star QB every single year. It's not -- not yet, anyway.
There is a wide chasm between landing 5* QBs every single year and whiffing on your top 8-10 targets not once but two years in a row. -
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+1000whatshouldicareabout said:I don't actually care about how good the kid is, I just want Smith fired
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Jake v3.0 will probably go over like Windows Vista.
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So does Haener still suck?
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yes, until proven otherwise. We have 4QB on scholarship. Why in the gods name we offered him?tvoie said:So does Haener still suck?
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When Browning and KJCS are gone after 2018, the QBs on roster will be Bridge-Gadd (rJR), Haener (rSO), and Sirmon (rFR). You need at least 3 playable QBs on roster, and it would be much better to have Haener as an backup/insurance option than a true freshman. We needed a QB in this class for that reason, and we missed on the top 4 or 5 guys on our bored. Haener isn't as bad as people make him out to be and should be a serviceable backup by that point.WeakarmCobra said:
yes, until proven otherwise. We have 4QB on scholarship. Why in the gods name we offered him?tvoie said:So does Haener still suck?
Doesn't excuse the fact that we whiffed on so many guys ahead of him our board though. Sirmon should actually have to fight for a starting job when the time comes, not have it handed to him on a silver platter. -
Seriously what if Sirmon ends up sucking?
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Is that hard to find a QB that has a decent zip on the ball? Looks he has the same arm strength as Jake.NEsnake12 said:
When Browning and KJCS are gone after 2018, the QBs on roster will be Bridge-Gadd (rJR), Haener (rSO), and Sirmon (rFR). You need at least 3 playable QBs on roster, and it would be much better to have Haener as an backup/insurance option than a true freshman. We needed a QB in this class for that reason, and we missed on the top 4 or 5 guys on our bored. Haener isn't as bad as people make him out to be and should be a serviceable backup by that point.WeakarmCobra said:
yes, until proven otherwise. We have 4QB on scholarship. Why in the gods name we offered him?tvoie said:So does Haener still suck?
Doesn't excuse the fact that we whiffed on so many guys ahead of him our board though. Sirmon should actually have to fight for a starting job when the time comes, not have it handed to him on a silver platter. -
tvoie said:
Seriously what if Sirmon ends up sucking?
Then someone else will play QB
What if Petersen has a stroke?
What if our entire DL dies in a drunk driving accident?
What if Jimmy NoBalls leaves for Central?
Or
What if Bridge-Gadd develops into a great QB?
This paranoid hypothetical shit on this site is crazy. We're a battered girlfriend whose boyfriend has been off the sauce for a month and we're just waiting for him to relapse.
Let It Fucking Play Out
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We are spending our free time on a UW football board man. This is what we do. We nitpick and fret over high school kids becoming great college players so we can talk shit when our team wins a NC.bananasnblondes said:tvoie said:Seriously what if Sirmon ends up sucking?
Then someone else will play QB
What if Petersen has a stroke?
What if our entire DL dies in a drunk driving accident?
What if Jimmy NoBalls leaves for Central?
Or
What if Bridge-Gadd develops into a great QB?
This paranoid hypothetical shit on this site is crazy. We're a battered girlfriend whose boyfriend has been off the sauce for a month and we're just waiting for him to relapse.
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this right here is the problem. it's not a free bored. it costs money to run it and only some of us are paying up to help. please consider not being a total douche and pony up homes.tvoie said:
We are spending our free time on a UW football board man. This is what we do. We nitpick and fret over high school kids becoming great college players so we can talk shit when our team wins a NC.bananasnblondes said:tvoie said:Seriously what if Sirmon ends up sucking?
Then someone else will play QB
What if Petersen has a stroke?
What if our entire DL dies in a drunk driving accident?
What if Jimmy NoBalls leaves for Central?
Or
What if Bridge-Gadd develops into a great QB?
This paranoid hypothetical shit on this site is crazy. We're a battered girlfriend whose boyfriend has been off the sauce for a month and we're just waiting for him to relapse.
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I have never been more afraid of our DLine hopping in a car with ASJ at the wheel
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Get a fucking avatar you savage.dawgbrew said:I have never been more afraid of our DLine hopping in a car with ASJ at the wheel
