This is FS. Browning and Sirmon are three years apart and of course Browning didn't redshirt. So they may not even overlap at all.
We need to hit on our QB this year. Relying on the freshman Messiah to come in and save the day is not a reliable strategy.
I agree with you, but browning will be here through the 2018 season.
Sirmon will get on campus in January of 2018, redshirt that year and be ready hopefully as a RS-frosh in 2019.
Like I said, I agree that this QB recruiting stuff is bullshit but it's not like we'd have a true frosh we need to rely on.
Browning staying and Sirmon making it to campus are both more likely than not but neither is 100% certain either.
If anything, this commitment gives Sirmon even more reason to come here since the starting job should be his pretty early on. Bridge-Gadd and Haener are now just insurance policies.
The '17 QB was always going to be an ins policy. DBG will be decent, and will nicely bridge Browning to Sirmon. Recruits watch each other, look at depth charts, want early PT. There are better indictments of Smith than this recruiting cycle.
Some people are a little too caught up in stars and offers. Watch the film. He's not an NFL prospect (small), but he's mobile, has a solid arm, solid mechanics, and looks pretty fucking good all around. Guys like this can tear it up in college. I don't give a fuck if we never recruit another NFL QB as long as he finds someone that can throw the ball to the guys in black and lavender and khaki and white.
One thing I like about his film over almost all HS QB films I've seen is how often he throws the ball hard. Too much touch pass shit going on in most QB films. Most any hack can throw it up for wide open receivers to run under, or swerve to, or stop for etc. All those lobs don't tell you if they have the knack for hitting a guy in stride when the defense forces you to throw hard.
Some people are a little too caught up in stars and offers. Watch the film. He's not an NFL prospect (small), but he's mobile, has a solid arm, solid mechanics, and looks pretty fucking good all around. Guys like this can tear it up in college. I don't give a fuck if we never recruit another NFL QB as long as he finds someone that can throw the ball to the guys in black and lavender and khaki and white.
One thing I like about his film over almost all HS QB films I've seen is how often he throws the ball hard. Too much touch pass shit going on in most QB films. Most any hack can throw it up for wide open receivers to run under, or swerve to, or stop for etc. All those lobs don't tell you if they have the knack for hitting a guy in stride when the defense forces you to throw hard.
Great thanks for the scouting report.
If Smith stumbled into a diamond in the rough again this year then great.
The concern is that this makes two years in a row that Smith had no discernible plan for recruiting the QB position and offered and missed on nearly every big prospect on the west coast.
The '17 QB was always going to be an ins policy. DBG will be decent, and will nicely bridge Browning to Sirmon. Recruits watch each other, look at depth charts, want early PT. There are better indictments of Smith than this recruiting cycle.
Recruits also watch who their coaches are going to be.
I could list a litany of examples of highly coveted QB recruits committing to programs with more crowded depth charts than UW. Elite schools with elite coaching staffs take an elite QB prospect every year. A good recruiter can always sell an opportunity no matter how small.
When we ended up with Derrick Brown in 2011 it was OK because we had Montana from 2010 and Lindquist coming in behind (and later Cyler.) Where would the program be if we had signed Mariota or Hundley? Probably still 7-6 but fuck....
Some people are a little too caught up in stars and offers. Watch the film. He's not an NFL prospect (small), but he's mobile, has a solid arm, solid mechanics, and looks pretty fucking good all around. Guys like this can tear it up in college. I don't give a fuck if we never recruit another NFL QB as long as he finds someone that can throw the ball to the guys in black and lavender and khaki and white.
One thing I like about his film over almost all HS QB films I've seen is how often he throws the ball hard. Too much touch pass shit going on in most QB films. Most any hack can throw it up for wide open receivers to run under, or swerve to, or stop for etc. All those lobs don't tell you if they have the knack for hitting a guy in stride when the defense forces you to throw hard.
Great thanks for the scouting report.
If Smith stumbled into a diamond in the rough again this year then great.
The concern is that this makes two years in a row that Smith had no discernible plan for recruiting the QB position and offered and missed on nearly every big prospect on the west coast.
Fuck you it wasn't a scouting report. Just my quick assessment and an attempt at objectivity to temper the uproar that occurs every time someone that USC didn't offer commits to UW.
But you're absolutely right about Smith. No argument from me there. He's a liability in every aspect.
Some people are a little too caught up in stars and offers. Watch the film. He's not an NFL prospect (small), but he's mobile, has a solid arm, solid mechanics, and looks pretty fucking good all around. Guys like this can tear it up in college. I don't give a fuck if we never recruit another NFL QB as long as he finds someone that can throw the ball to the guys in black and lavender and khaki and white.
One thing I like about his film over almost all HS QB films I've seen is how often he throws the ball hard. Too much touch pass shit going on in most QB films. Most any hack can throw it up for wide open receivers to run under, or swerve to, or stop for etc. All those lobs don't tell you if they have the knack for hitting a guy in stride when the defense forces you to throw hard.
Great thanks for the scouting report.
If Smith stumbled into a diamond in the rough again this year then great.
The concern is that this makes two years in a row that Smith had no discernible plan for recruiting the QB position and offered and missed on nearly every big prospect on the west coast.
Fuck you it wasn't a scouting report. Just my quick assessment and an attempt at objectivity to temper the uproar that occurs every time someone that USC didn't offer commits to UW.
But you're absolutely right about Smith. No argument from me there. He's a liability in every aspect.
Didn't mean to be in sarcasm mode sorry chuck. Your observations are appreciated.
Some people are a little too caught up in stars and offers. Watch the film. He's not an NFL prospect (small), but he's mobile, has a solid arm, solid mechanics, and looks pretty fucking good all around. Guys like this can tear it up in college. I don't give a fuck if we never recruit another NFL QB as long as he finds someone that can throw the ball to the guys in black and lavender and khaki and white.
One thing I like about his film over almost all HS QB films I've seen is how often he throws the ball hard. Too much touch pass shit going on in most QB films. Most any hack can throw it up for wide open receivers to run under, or swerve to, or stop for etc. All those lobs don't tell you if they have the knack for hitting a guy in stride when the defense forces you to throw hard.
Great thanks for the scouting report.
If Smith stumbled into a diamond in the rough again this year then great.
The concern is that this makes two years in a row that Smith had no discernible plan for recruiting the QB position and offered and missed on nearly every big prospect on the west coast.
Fuck you it wasn't a scouting report. Just my quick assessment and an attempt at objectivity to temper the uproar that occurs every time someone that USC didn't offer commits to UW.
But you're absolutely right about Smith. No argument from me there. He's a liability in every aspect.
Didn't mean to be in sarcasm mode sorry chuck. Your observations are appreciated.
Haha no worries. The fuck you wasn't really called for. Except that posting on this site does actually call for for it. Pretty sure it's in the rules.
Just watched the film and can say, coach Pete definitely got the next Kellen Moore. Slightly undersized, accurate passer, cerebral.
#obligatory
If he came in a darker shade, he'd be the next Keith Price
I thought of Price too, but then realized that's impossible. He looks like QB with some athleticism, rather than an athlete learning to play QB. More of a cerebral, lunch pail, gym rat type. Plus something else was just different about him that I couldn't put my finger on.
Recruits also watch who their coaches are going to be.
I could list a litany of examples of highly coveted QB recruits committing to programs with more crowded depth charts than UW. Elite schools with elite coaching staffs take an elite QB prospect every year. A good recruiter can always sell an opportunity no matter how small.
When we ended up with Derrick Brown in 2011 it was OK because we had Montana from 2010 and Lindquist coming in behind (and later Cyler.) Where would the program be if we had signed Mariota or Hundley? Probably still 7-6 but fuck....
And if UW didn't have Browning, it probably would have landed Eason. And then maybe missed on Sirmon down the line.
Look, it'd be great if UW was one of those programs that could sign a 5-star QB every single year. It's not -- not yet, anyway.
The '17 QB was always going to be an ins policy. DBG will be decent, and will nicely bridge Browning to Sirmon. Recruits watch each other, look at depth charts, want early PT. There are better indictments of Smith than this recruiting cycle.
Recruits also watch who their coaches are going to be.
I could list a litany of examples of highly coveted QB recruits committing to programs with more crowded depth charts than UW. Elite schools with elite coaching staffs take an elite QB prospect every year. A good recruiter can always sell an opportunity no matter how small.
When we ended up with Derrick Brown in 2011 it was OK because we had Montana from 2010 and Lindquist coming in behind (and later Cyler.) Where would the program be if we had signed Mariota or Hundley? Probably still 7-6 but fuck....
"Elite" QB recruits are a fantasy born in the heads of experts like Barton, Grinnolds, Fetters, etc. then repeated by lazy bloggers until they've convinced themselves of their genius.
Montana, Lindquist, Miles, Brown... NONE of them were elite. NONE of them were even mediocre. ALL of them stole a spot on the roster and held the team back.
Recruits also watch who their coaches are going to be.
I could list a litany of examples of highly coveted QB recruits committing to programs with more crowded depth charts than UW. Elite schools with elite coaching staffs take an elite QB prospect every year. A good recruiter can always sell an opportunity no matter how small.
When we ended up with Derrick Brown in 2011 it was OK because we had Montana from 2010 and Lindquist coming in behind (and later Cyler.) Where would the program be if we had signed Mariota or Hundley? Probably still 7-6 but fuck....
And if UW didn't have Browning, it probably would have landed Eason. And then maybe missed on Sirmon down the line.
Look, it'd be great if UW was one of those programs that could sign a 5-star QB every single year. It's not -- not yet, anyway.
Probably not and probably not but anyways....
There is a wide chasm between landing 5* QBs every single year and whiffing on your top 8-10 targets not once but two years in a row.
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One thing I like about his film over almost all HS QB films I've seen is how often he throws the ball hard. Too much touch pass shit going on in most QB films. Most any hack can throw it up for wide open receivers to run under, or swerve to, or stop for etc. All those lobs don't tell you if they have the knack for hitting a guy in stride when the defense forces you to throw hard.
If Smith stumbled into a diamond in the rough again this year then great.
The concern is that this makes two years in a row that Smith had no discernible plan for recruiting the QB position and offered and missed on nearly every big prospect on the west coast.
I could list a litany of examples of highly coveted QB recruits committing to programs with more crowded depth charts than UW. Elite schools with elite coaching staffs take an elite QB prospect every year. A good recruiter can always sell an opportunity no matter how small.
When we ended up with Derrick Brown in 2011 it was OK because we had Montana from 2010 and Lindquist coming in behind (and later Cyler.) Where would the program be if we had signed Mariota or Hundley? Probably still 7-6 but fuck....
But you're absolutely right about Smith. No argument from me there. He's a liability in every aspect.
#obligatory
Look, it'd be great if UW was one of those programs that could sign a 5-star QB every single year. It's not -- not yet, anyway.
Montana, Lindquist, Miles, Brown... NONE of them were elite. NONE of them were even mediocre. ALL of them stole a spot on the roster and held the team back.
There is a wide chasm between landing 5* QBs every single year and whiffing on your top 8-10 targets not once but two years in a row.