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WARRIORS CAVS FINALS THREAD

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  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    Good gameplan by the Cavs. Nothing you can do when the opposing teams role players shoot 90%.

    Also I'm hearing the 72 win Bulls could never shut down Curry and Thompson, even though the 57 win Cleveland Cavaliers just did.

    Doogs hate winners.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,986 Founders Club
    I see that the GOAT showed how valuable he is with those 11 points
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,744
    edited June 2016

    dnc said:

    Good gameplan by the Cavs. Nothing you can do when the opposing teams role players shoot 90%.

    Also I'm hearing the 72 win Bulls could never shut down Curry and Thompson, even though the 57 win Cleveland Cavaliers just did.

    Can't speak for anyone else, but my claim is the 96 Bulls could not shut them down for the course of a 7 game series. For a game or 2? Sure, shooters have off nights, that's the nature of shooters. Memphis shut them down for a couple games last year too. Cleveland did to start the series last year as well. Klay's more inconsistent, but Steph always adjusts and finds his rhythm. He'll go off in this series too. Even though he might not need to.
    As an alleged Grizzlies fan you should know that series flipped when Golden State stopped guarding Tony Allen so Memphis couldn't play him. Not because you can't possibly ever stop them for a full series.

    Seriously, you're saying the 2015 Memphis Grizzlies did it twice so that's the max, no one could ever be better than them. Nearly as stupid as saying some fucking rando Blazers player couldn't guard Steph therefore no one ever could.
    Good point about Allen I think I repressed those memories.

    I'm not saying two games is the max necessarily. I don't know what the max is. I am saying he has a history of having a bad game here or there or even a couple but always eventually finds his shot. I expect the same in this series.

    I'll grant you what Barbosa and Livingston did last night is not repeatable. Do you think Cleveland is shutting Steph and Klay down like this multiple more times this series? I don't.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    I see that the GOAT showed how valuable he is with those 11 points

    Winners win.
  • CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    I see that the GOAT showed how valuable he is with those 11 points

    He won. Lebron didn't.
  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Winners win always had limitations as a guiding principle.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,986 Founders Club
    The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan

    If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.

    The Warriors are winners.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,744

    The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan

    If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.

    The Warriors are winners.

    Right, Curry's just a role player. " ;) "
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan

    If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.

    The Warriors are winners.

    Totally agree here.

    Coaching matters.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,744
    edited June 2016

    The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan

    If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.

    The Warriors are winners.

    Totally agree here.

    Coaching matters.
    Disagree.

    True greats like Jordan never needed a coaching change to win a ring...
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,235 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan

    If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.

    The Warriors are winners.

    Totally agree here.

    Coaching matters.
    Disagree.

    True greats like Jordan never needed a coaching change to win a ring...
    Uhhh.....

    image

  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,744

    dnc said:

    The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan

    If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.

    The Warriors are winners.

    Totally agree here.

    Coaching matters.
    Disagree.

    True greats like Jordan never needed a coaching change to win a ring...
    Uhhh.....

    image

    Huh....
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,986 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan

    If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.

    The Warriors are winners.

    Right, Curry's just a role player. " ;) "
    THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    Good gameplan by the Cavs. Nothing you can do when the opposing teams role players shoot 90%.

    Also I'm hearing the 72 win Bulls could never shut down Curry and Thompson, even though the 57 win Cleveland Cavaliers just did.

    When your rookie head coach who was never more than a role player 'schemes' to shut down two players, he gets schooled by a head coach who won multiple championships as both a player and a coach.

    Spacing.

    Belongs on the higher level discussion bored. Too #chinsightful for the commoners.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    Good gameplan by the Cavs. Nothing you can do when the opposing teams role players shoot 90%.

    Also I'm hearing the 72 win Bulls could never shut down Curry and Thompson, even though the 57 win Cleveland Cavaliers just did.

    When your rookie head coach who was never more than a role player 'schemes' to shut down two players, he gets schooled by a head coach who won multiple championships as both a player and a coach.

    Spacing.

    I love new NBA fans that think the Warriors invented spacing.

    Livingston and Barbosa threw up a bunch of contested shots that went in with Curry and/or Thompson on the bench. Congrats on watching your first NBA game.
    I know right???


    The Warriors would have never won if they didn't put the ball in the basket so much.
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    dnc said:

    The point is that the Warriors have changed the game due to Kerr not Curry. He let Curry loose and plays 10 guys. It's a team not Curry as Jordan

    If Curry had been drafted by George Karl he'd never get off the bench.

    The Warriors are winners.

    Right, Curry's just a role player. " ;) "
    THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID
    image
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,986 Founders Club
    Mark Jackson says hi
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Good gameplan by the Cavs. Nothing you can do when the opposing teams role players shoot 90%.

    Also I'm hearing the 72 win Bulls could never shut down Curry and Thompson, even though the 57 win Cleveland Cavaliers just did.

    Can't speak for anyone else, but my claim is the 96 Bulls could not shut them down for the course of a 7 game series. For a game or 2? Sure, shooters have off nights, that's the nature of shooters. Memphis shut them down for a couple games last year too. Cleveland did to start the series last year as well. Klay's more inconsistent, but Steph always adjusts and finds his rhythm. He'll go off in this series too. Even though he might not need to.
    As an alleged Grizzlies fan you should know that series flipped when Golden State stopped guarding Tony Allen so Memphis couldn't play him. Not because you can't possibly ever stop them for a full series.

    Seriously, you're saying the 2015 Memphis Grizzlies did it twice so that's the max, no one could ever be better than them. Nearly as stupid as saying some fucking rando Blazers player couldn't guard Steph therefore no one ever could.
    Good point about Allen I think I repressed those memories.

    I'm not saying two games is the max necessarily. I don't know what the max is. I am saying he has a history of having a bad game here or there or even a couple but always eventually finds his shot. I expect the same in this series.

    I'll grant you what Barbosa and Livingston did last night is not repeatable. Do you think Cleveland is shutting Steph and Klay down like this multiple more times this series? I don't.
    Cleveland is most likely not doing that again.

    But just to be clear on my point on the whole Bulls/Warriors comparison, I don't think the Bulls would just clamp down and hold those guys to 0 points, I think they'd make them have to work harder to be less efficient. Tony Allen is really the only top tier perimeter defender those two have had to deal with in the last two years and he gave them hell. If you make those two less efficient and more tired then I think you beat Golden State. They won the last game but, you know, Cleveland.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,744

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Good gameplan by the Cavs. Nothing you can do when the opposing teams role players shoot 90%.

    Also I'm hearing the 72 win Bulls could never shut down Curry and Thompson, even though the 57 win Cleveland Cavaliers just did.

    Can't speak for anyone else, but my claim is the 96 Bulls could not shut them down for the course of a 7 game series. For a game or 2? Sure, shooters have off nights, that's the nature of shooters. Memphis shut them down for a couple games last year too. Cleveland did to start the series last year as well. Klay's more inconsistent, but Steph always adjusts and finds his rhythm. He'll go off in this series too. Even though he might not need to.
    As an alleged Grizzlies fan you should know that series flipped when Golden State stopped guarding Tony Allen so Memphis couldn't play him. Not because you can't possibly ever stop them for a full series.

    Seriously, you're saying the 2015 Memphis Grizzlies did it twice so that's the max, no one could ever be better than them. Nearly as stupid as saying some fucking rando Blazers player couldn't guard Steph therefore no one ever could.
    Good point about Allen I think I repressed those memories.

    I'm not saying two games is the max necessarily. I don't know what the max is. I am saying he has a history of having a bad game here or there or even a couple but always eventually finds his shot. I expect the same in this series.

    I'll grant you what Barbosa and Livingston did last night is not repeatable. Do you think Cleveland is shutting Steph and Klay down like this multiple more times this series? I don't.
    Cleveland is most likely not doing that again.

    But just to be clear on my point on the whole Bulls/Warriors comparison, I don't think the Bulls would just clamp down and hold those guys to 0 points, I think they'd make them have to work harder to be less efficient. Tony Allen is really the only top tier perimeter defender those two have had to deal with in the last two years and he gave them hell. If you make those two less efficient and more tired then I think you beat Golden State. They won the last game but, you know, Cleveland.
    Can't really disagree with much of this. I definitely think Pippen/Jordan would affect Steph and Klay. I just think Steph would still get his over the course of the series. And Tony Allen is a special kind of crazy. First team. All defense.
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