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Coaching matters (deserves own thread)

Doogs here think that any old coach can win if they inherit the right situation and/or just have the right players.

It's hard, as evidenced by the last 20 years of USC football:

1996 John Robinson 6–6 3–5 T-5th
1997 John Robinson 6–5 4–4 T-5th
1998 Paul Hackett 8–5 5–3 T-3rd
1999 Paul Hackett 6–6 3–5 T-6th
2000 Paul Hackett 5–7 2–6 T-8th
2001 Pete Carroll 6–6 5–3 5th
2002 Pete Carroll 11–2 7–1 T-1st
2003 Pete Carroll 12–1 7–1 1st
2004 Pete Carroll 11–0* 8–0* 1st
2005 Pete Carroll 0–0* 0–0* 1st
2006 Pete Carroll 11–2 7–2 T-1st
2007 Pete Carroll 11–2 7–2 T-1st
2008 Pete Carroll 12–1 8–1 1st
2009 Pete Carroll 9–4 5–4 T-5th
2010 Lane Kiffin 8–5 5–4 T-3rd
2011 Lane Kiffin 10–2 7–2 1st (South)
2012 Lane Kiffin 7–6 5–4 T-2nd (South)
2013 Lane Kiffin
Ed Orgeron
Clay Helton 10–4 6–3 T-2nd (South)
2014 Steve Sarkisian 9–4 6–3 T-2nd (South)
2015 Steve Sarkisian
Clay Helton 8–6 6–3 T-1st (South)

Comments

  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    Doogs hate facts.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,687
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    Swaye's Wigwam
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,480
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    Standard Supporter
    What scbool was carrol coaching at?
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    Apples and orange bowls boobielips! xoxo
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    I'm hearing Carroll does less with more.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,377
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    Swaye's Wigwam
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,365
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    Imagine what Mike Riley could do with that team.

    See what Woody Hayes did to his own team

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  • AEBAEB Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,958
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    The 5-7 Hackett team was loaded. Not similar to Sarks team Pete inherited. Coaching matters. Carroll went 1-5 in his first 6 games before the team clicked.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,365
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    Doogs here think that any old coach can win if they inherit the right situation and/or just have the right players.

    It's hard, as evidenced by the last 20 years of USC football:

    1996 John Robinson 6–6 3–5 T-5th
    1997 John Robinson 6–5 4–4 T-5th
    1998 Paul Hackett 8–5 5–3 T-3rd
    1999 Paul Hackett 6–6 3–5 T-6th
    2000 Paul Hackett 5–7 2–6 T-8th
    2001 Pete Carroll 6–6 5–3 5th
    2002 Pete Carroll 11–2 7–1 T-1st
    2003 Pete Carroll 12–1 7–1 1st
    2004 Pete Carroll 11–0* 8–0* 1st
    2005 Pete Carroll 0–0* 0–0* 1st
    2006 Pete Carroll 11–2 7–2 T-1st
    2007 Pete Carroll 11–2 7–2 T-1st
    2008 Pete Carroll 12–1 8–1 1st
    2009 Pete Carroll 9–4 5–4 T-5th
    2010 Lane Kiffin 8–5 5–4 T-3rd
    2011 Lane Kiffin 10–2 7–2 1st (South)
    2012 Lane Kiffin 7–6 5–4 T-2nd (South)
    2013 Lane Kiffin
    Ed Orgeron
    Clay Helton 10–4 6–3 T-2nd (South)
    2014 Steve Sarkisian 9–4 6–3 T-2nd (South)
    2015 Steve Sarkisian
    Clay Helton 8–6 6–3 T-1st (South)

    So you're saying year 3 matters?
    Throwaway year
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