Coaching matters (deserves own thread)

TierbsHsotBoobs

Doogs here think that any old coach can win if they inherit the right situation and/or just have the right players.

It's hard, as evidenced by the last 20 years of USC football:

1996 John Robinson 6–6 3–5 T-5th
1997 John Robinson 6–5 4–4 T-5th
1998 Paul Hackett 8–5 5–3 T-3rd
1999 Paul Hackett 6–6 3–5 T-6th
2000 Paul Hackett 5–7 2–6 T-8th
2001 Pete Carroll 6–6 5–3 5th
2002 Pete Carroll 11–2 7–1 T-1st
2003 Pete Carroll 12–1 7–1 1st
2004 Pete Carroll 11–0* 8–0* 1st
2005 Pete Carroll 0–0* 0–0* 1st
2006 Pete Carroll 11–2 7–2 T-1st
2007 Pete Carroll 11–2 7–2 T-1st
2008 Pete Carroll 12–1 8–1 1st
2009 Pete Carroll 9–4 5–4 T-5th
2010 Lane Kiffin 8–5 5–4 T-3rd
2011 Lane Kiffin 10–2 7–2 1st (South)
2012 Lane Kiffin 7–6 5–4 T-2nd (South)
2013 Lane Kiffin
Ed Orgeron
Clay Helton 10–4 6–3 T-2nd (South)
2014 Steve Sarkisian 9–4 6–3 T-2nd (South)
2015 Steve Sarkisian
Clay Helton 8–6 6–3 T-1st (South)

ThomasFremont

Doogs hate facts.

RaceBannon

GrundleStiltzkin

What scbool was carrol coaching at?

dnc

Apples and orange bowls boobielips! xoxo

allpurpleallgold

I'm hearing Carroll does less with more.

DerekJohnson

Imagine what Mike Riley could do with that team.

PurpleJ

Paging @PeteIsSoberSarkisianDawg

Baseman

DerekJohnson said:

Imagine what Mike Riley could do with that team.

See what Woody Hayes did to his own team

AEB

The 5-7 Hackett team was loaded. Not similar to Sarks team Pete inherited. Coaching matters. Carroll went 1-5 in his first 6 games before the team clicked.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Doogs here think that any old coach can win if they inherit the right situation and/or just have the right players.

It's hard, as evidenced by the last 20 years of USC football:

1996 John Robinson 6–6 3–5 T-5th
1997 John Robinson 6–5 4–4 T-5th
1998 Paul Hackett 8–5 5–3 T-3rd
1999 Paul Hackett 6–6 3–5 T-6th
2000 Paul Hackett 5–7 2–6 T-8th
2001 Pete Carroll 6–6 5–3 5th
2002 Pete Carroll 11–2 7–1 T-1st
2003 Pete Carroll 12–1 7–1 1st
2004 Pete Carroll 11–0* 8–0* 1st
2005 Pete Carroll 0–0* 0–0* 1st
2006 Pete Carroll 11–2 7–2 T-1st
2007 Pete Carroll 11–2 7–2 T-1st
2008 Pete Carroll 12–1 8–1 1st
2009 Pete Carroll 9–4 5–4 T-5th
2010 Lane Kiffin 8–5 5–4 T-3rd
2011 Lane Kiffin 10–2 7–2 1st (South)
2012 Lane Kiffin 7–6 5–4 T-2nd (South)
2013 Lane Kiffin
Ed Orgeron
Clay Helton 10–4 6–3 T-2nd (South)
2014 Steve Sarkisian 9–4 6–3 T-2nd (South)
2015 Steve Sarkisian
Clay Helton 8–6 6–3 T-1st (South)

So you're saying year 3 matters?

Baseman

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Doogs here think that any old coach can win if they inherit the right situation and/or just have the right players.

It's hard, as evidenced by the last 20 years of USC football:

1996 John Robinson 6–6 3–5 T-5th
1997 John Robinson 6–5 4–4 T-5th
1998 Paul Hackett 8–5 5–3 T-3rd
1999 Paul Hackett 6–6 3–5 T-6th
2000 Paul Hackett 5–7 2–6 T-8th
2001 Pete Carroll 6–6 5–3 5th
2002 Pete Carroll 11–2 7–1 T-1st
2003 Pete Carroll 12–1 7–1 1st
2004 Pete Carroll 11–0* 8–0* 1st
2005 Pete Carroll 0–0* 0–0* 1st
2006 Pete Carroll 11–2 7–2 T-1st
2007 Pete Carroll 11–2 7–2 T-1st
2008 Pete Carroll 12–1 8–1 1st
2009 Pete Carroll 9–4 5–4 T-5th
2010 Lane Kiffin 8–5 5–4 T-3rd
2011 Lane Kiffin 10–2 7–2 1st (South)
2012 Lane Kiffin 7–6 5–4 T-2nd (South)
2013 Lane Kiffin
Ed Orgeron
Clay Helton 10–4 6–3 T-2nd (South)
2014 Steve Sarkisian 9–4 6–3 T-2nd (South)
2015 Steve Sarkisian
Clay Helton 8–6 6–3 T-1st (South)

So you're saying year 3 matters?

Throwaway year