I'm not a big Taibbi fan, but that was a good piece. There's a large political shift going on on both sides of the spectrum, and it's fascinating to see Hillary get blindsided by it and have to quickly assume contradicting positions to align herself as far left as possible.
Of course I disagreed with the authors viewpoint on almost all policy points, but she makes a great overall point. Hillary, and so many of our politicians in general are so lost in the shady backroom deals that they don't even see it anymore.
Great quote:
Young people don't see the Sanders-Clinton race as a choice between idealism and incremental progress. The choice they see is between an honest politician, and one who is so profoundly a part of the problem that she can't even see it anymore.
I think there's a good chance that Hillary is the last establishment candidate we see from either side for quite a while.
The problem is the amount of money during the campaign and the lobbying dollars after people are elected. Money needs to get out of politics. But that'll never happen.
I think there's a good chance that Hillary is the last establishment candidate we see from either side for quite a while.
The problem is the amount of money during the campaign and the lobbying dollars after people are elected. Money needs to get out of politics. But that'll never happen.
That's the spirit. Roll over and give up, the democrat mantra.
I think there's a good chance that Hillary is the last establishment candidate we see from either side for quite a while.
The problem is the amount of money during the campaign and the lobbying dollars after people are elected. Money needs to get out of politics. But that'll never happen.
This is literally the mind set addressed in the article. Guess you didn't learn anything.
I think there's a good chance that Hillary is the last establishment candidate we see from either side for quite a while.
You think so? Until these loud, noisy kids who keep posting their Bernie propaganda all over social media actually back up their rhetoric with votes, the DNC will just keep churning out more candidates like Hillary. Right now she's the odds on favorite to win the presidency, and unless she loses, why would the DNC change their formula?
I think there's a good chance that Hillary is the last establishment candidate we see from either side for quite a while.
You think so? Until these loud, noisy kids who keep posting their Bernie propaganda all over social media actually back up their rhetoric with votes, the DNC will just keep churning out more candidates like Hillary. Right now she's the odds on favorite to win the presidency, and unless she loses, why would the DNC change their formula?
I think there's a good chance that Hillary is the last establishment candidate we see from either side for quite a while.
You think so? Until these loud, noisy kids who keep posting their Bernie propaganda all over social media actually back up their rhetoric with votes, the DNC will just keep churning out more candidates like Hillary. Right now she's the odds on favorite to win the presidency, and unless she loses, why would the DNC change their formula?
Because she's Hillary Clinton. You put someone in office that nobody likes and nobody trusts, how do you think that's going to go?
I think there's a good chance that Hillary is the last establishment candidate we see from either side for quite a while.
You think so? Until these loud, noisy kids who keep posting their Bernie propaganda all over social media actually back up their rhetoric with votes, the DNC will just keep churning out more candidates like Hillary. Right now she's the odds on favorite to win the presidency, and unless she loses, why would the DNC change their formula?
Because she's Hillary Clinton. You put someone in office that nobody likes and nobody trusts, how do you think that's going to go?
Both Trump and Hillary have the highest dislike and distrust polling results. Yet both are leading for nomination.
I think there's a good chance that Hillary is the last establishment candidate we see from either side for quite a while.
You think so? Until these loud, noisy kids who keep posting their Bernie propaganda all over social media actually back up their rhetoric with votes, the DNC will just keep churning out more candidates like Hillary. Right now she's the odds on favorite to win the presidency, and unless she loses, why would the DNC change their formula?
Because she's Hillary Clinton. You put someone in office that nobody likes and nobody trusts, how do you think that's going to go?
Both Trump and Hillary have the highest dislike and distrust polling results. Yet both are leading for nomination.
I think there's a good chance that Hillary is the last establishment candidate we see from either side for quite a while.
You think so? Until these loud, noisy kids who keep posting their Bernie propaganda all over social media actually back up their rhetoric with votes, the DNC will just keep churning out more candidates like Hillary. Right now she's the odds on favorite to win the presidency, and unless she loses, why would the DNC change their formula?
Because she's Hillary Clinton. You put someone in office that nobody likes and nobody trusts, how do you think that's going to go?
Both Trump and Hillary have the highest dislike and distrust polling results. Yet both are leading for nomination.
I think there's a good chance that Hillary is the last establishment candidate we see from either side for quite a while.
You think so? Until these loud, noisy kids who keep posting their Bernie propaganda all over social media actually back up their rhetoric with votes, the DNC will just keep churning out more candidates like Hillary. Right now she's the odds on favorite to win the presidency, and unless she loses, why would the DNC change their formula?
Because she's Hillary Clinton. You put someone in office that nobody likes and nobody trusts, how do you think that's going to go?
Both Trump and Hillary have the highest dislike and distrust polling results. Yet both are leading for nomination.
Is that what your news source told you?
Your wife told me that. Your mom agreed.
Probably just best to assume that every 80 year old on the bored's mom is already dead.
I think there's a good chance that Hillary is the last establishment candidate we see from either side for quite a while.
You think so? Until these loud, noisy kids who keep posting their Bernie propaganda all over social media actually back up their rhetoric with votes, the DNC will just keep churning out more candidates like Hillary. Right now she's the odds on favorite to win the presidency, and unless she loses, why would the DNC change their formula?
Because she's Hillary Clinton. You put someone in office that nobody likes and nobody trusts, how do you think that's going to go?
Both Trump and Hillary have the highest dislike and distrust polling results. Yet both are leading for nomination.
Is that what your news source told you?
Your wife told me that. Your mom agreed.
Probably just best to assume that every 80 year old on the bored's mom is already dead.
I think there's a good chance that Hillary is the last establishment candidate we see from either side for quite a while.
You think so? Until these loud, noisy kids who keep posting their Bernie propaganda all over social media actually back up their rhetoric with votes, the DNC will just keep churning out more candidates like Hillary. Right now she's the odds on favorite to win the presidency, and unless she loses, why would the DNC change their formula?
Because she's Hillary Clinton. You put someone in office that nobody likes and nobody trusts, how do you think that's going to go?
Your leftist idealism and naivety is cute. The DNC is not going to swayed by a bunch of millennials on reddit and the status quo will persist. As it always does.
Of course I disagreed with the authors viewpoint on almost all policy points, but she makes a great overall point. Hillary, and so many of our politicians in general are so lost in the shady backroom deals that they don't even see it anymore.
Great quote:
Young people don't see the Sanders-Clinton race as a choice between idealism and incremental progress. The choice they see is between an honest politician, and one who is so profoundly a part of the problem that she can't even see it anymore.
I enjoyed the article, but see that quote as the conclusion of an idealist who penned it seeking affirmation while purposely ignoring the undercurrent on the left.
Hillary is an incredibly dishonest pandering politician who cares only about Hillary, nearly everyone recognizes that, regardless of age or political leaning. It's easy to want to vote for someone other than her. But to throw down with Bernie requires ditching the free society individualism of true liberals. Bernie is a self avowed socialist who uses the term "democratic socialist" to make it more palatable, but in the end socialism requires the full weight and force of the government to force conformity to its social norms and to take from those according to their ability so it can dole out to those according to their "need", all the while keeping a healthy dose of "need" for those in political power.
Bernie's appeal to millennials goes beyond his "honesty", which is frankly a misplaced attribute to bestow upon a lifelong socialist. Bernie is very honest in that he has displayed consistency in his beliefs. However, his honesty comes up short when assessing that belief system and the claims he makes regarding it. Millennials have been "educated" in a public system that has been progressively programmed. That generation enthusiastically supports Bernie the socialist, particularly when he's touting the kind of "free" stuff that allows them to extend their adolescence on someone else's dime and skirt the normal responsibilities that come with adulthood. They don't question the validity or consequences of such a system, but instead latch onto it's appeal as a paternalistic "take care of me" forever, it's my "human right" ideal. And they mistakenly believe the Bern is the guy to deliver the goods. Obviously the Bern can't make it happen without a massive flip in both houses of congress, and at least one more progressive supreme court appointment, but they do rightfully sense that Hillary will back away from any such promise as she tacks according to the strongest political winds. They rightfully don't like her and they rightfully don't trust her, but they're for Bernie for reasons that go beyond that.
Anyway, decent article, but the conclusion is at best a nice, albeit shallow comment.
Of course I disagreed with the authors viewpoint on almost all policy points, but she makes a great overall point. Hillary, and so many of our politicians in general are so lost in the shady backroom deals that they don't even see it anymore.
Great quote:
Young people don't see the Sanders-Clinton race as a choice between idealism and incremental progress. The choice they see is between an honest politician, and one who is so profoundly a part of the problem that she can't even see it anymore.
I enjoyed the article, but see that quote as the conclusion of an idealist who penned it seeking affirmation while purposely ignoring the undercurrent on the left.
Hillary is an incredibly dishonest pandering politician who cares only about Hillary, nearly everyone recognizes that, regardless of age or political leaning. It's easy to want to vote for someone other than her. But to throw down with Bernie requires ditching the free society individualism of true liberals. Bernie is a self avowed socialist who uses the term "democratic socialist" to make it more palatable, but in the end socialism requires the full weight and force of the government to force conformity to its social norms and to take from those according to their ability so it can dole out to those according to their "need", all the while keeping a healthy dose of "need" for those in political power.
Bernie's appeal to millennials goes beyond his "honesty", which is frankly a misplaced attribute to bestow upon a lifelong socialist. Bernie is very honest in that he has displayed consistency in his beliefs. However, his honesty comes up short when assessing that belief system and the claims he makes regarding it. Millennials have been "educated" in a public system that has been progressively programmed. That generation enthusiastically supports Bernie the socialist, particularly when he's touting the kind of "free" stuff that allows them to extend their adolescence on someone else's dime and skirt the normal responsibilities that come with adulthood. They don't question the validity or consequences of such a system, but instead latch onto it's appeal as a paternalistic "take care of me" forever, it's my "human right" ideal. And they mistakenly believe the Bern is the guy to deliver the goods. Obviously the Bern can't make it happen without a massive flip in both houses of congress, and at least one more progressive supreme court appointment, but they do rightfully sense that Hillary will back away from any such promise as she tacks according to the strongest political winds. They rightfully don't like her and they rightfully don't trust her, but they're for Bernie for reasons that go beyond that.
Anyway, decent article, but the conclusion is at best a nice, albeit shallow comment.
I'm not smart enough to understand this. I just liked that piece called Hillary the biggest lying cunt out there.
I think there's a good chance that Hillary is the last establishment candidate we see from either side for quite a while.
You think so? Until these loud, noisy kids who keep posting their Bernie propaganda all over social media actually back up their rhetoric with votes, the DNC will just keep churning out more candidates like Hillary. Right now she's the odds on favorite to win the presidency, and unless she loses, why would the DNC change their formula?
Because she's Hillary Clinton. You put someone in office that nobody likes and nobody trusts, how do you think that's going to go?
Both Trump and Hillary have the highest dislike and distrust polling results. Yet both are leading for nomination.
Is that what your news source told you?
Your wife told me that. Your mom agreed.
watch yourself lezzie. Youll be b a nned before you 2nd post
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I think there's a good chance that Hillary is the last establishment candidate we see from either side for quite a while.
Great quote:
Young people don't see the Sanders-Clinton race as a choice between idealism and incremental progress. The choice they see is between an honest politician, and one who is so profoundly a part of the problem that she can't even see it anymore.
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But at least you're not a REPUBLICAN, hurr durr.
hth
Irregardless of any mute poonts
Hillary is an incredibly dishonest pandering politician who cares only about Hillary, nearly everyone recognizes that, regardless of age or political leaning. It's easy to want to vote for someone other than her. But to throw down with Bernie requires ditching the free society individualism of true liberals. Bernie is a self avowed socialist who uses the term "democratic socialist" to make it more palatable, but in the end socialism requires the full weight and force of the government to force conformity to its social norms and to take from those according to their ability so it can dole out to those according to their "need", all the while keeping a healthy dose of "need" for those in political power.
Bernie's appeal to millennials goes beyond his "honesty", which is frankly a misplaced attribute to bestow upon a lifelong socialist. Bernie is very honest in that he has displayed consistency in his beliefs. However, his honesty comes up short when assessing that belief system and the claims he makes regarding it. Millennials have been "educated" in a public system that has been progressively programmed. That generation enthusiastically supports Bernie the socialist, particularly when he's touting the kind of "free" stuff that allows them to extend their adolescence on someone else's dime and skirt the normal responsibilities that come with adulthood. They don't question the validity or consequences of such a system, but instead latch onto it's appeal as a paternalistic "take care of me" forever, it's my "human right" ideal. And they mistakenly believe the Bern is the guy to deliver the goods. Obviously the Bern can't make it happen without a massive flip in both houses of congress, and at least one more progressive supreme court appointment, but they do rightfully sense that Hillary will back away from any such promise as she tacks according to the strongest political winds. They rightfully don't like her and they rightfully don't trust her, but they're for Bernie for reasons that go beyond that.
Anyway, decent article, but the conclusion is at best a nice, albeit shallow comment.