Washington feeling the Bern

doogsinparadise

72-27.

I'm surprised that I'm surprised.

Fire_Marshall_Bill

It's harder to rig caucuses. You can't make people wait five hours to vote I guess.

dhdawg

Who cares. With all the super delegates it's not like he's gonna pick up any ground

Swaye

dhdawg said:

Who cares. With all the super delegates it's not like he's gonna pick up any ground

I care. I want to see Bernie actually beat Hildabeast in real delegates, so that when the super delegates gift her the nomination it will be clear to everyone that she lost, but through DNC corruption was given it anyway.

Swaye

There is a very real chance in this election that the two winners (Trump, Sanders) will be robbed of their respective nominations via super delegates and brokered conventions. And the parties act flabbergasted as to why so many millions of people are sick of them and voting angry. Yeah, I wonder why. Assholes.

2001400ex

Swaye said:

dhdawg said:

Who cares. With all the super delegates it's not like he's gonna pick up any ground

I care. I want to see Bernie actually beat Hildabeast in real delegates, so that when the super delegates gift her the nomination it will be clear to everyone that she lost, but through DNC corruption was given it anyway.

Hillary is focusing her time on the winner take all states.

Swaye

2001400ex said:

Swaye said:

dhdawg said:

Who cares. With all the super delegates it's not like he's gonna pick up any ground

I care. I want to see Bernie actually beat Hildabeast in real delegates, so that when the super delegates gift her the nomination it will be clear to everyone that she lost, but through DNC corruption was given it anyway.

Hillary is focusing her time on the winner take all states.

Is CA winner take all?

topdawgnc

Swaye said:

2001400ex said:

Swaye said:

dhdawg said:

Who cares. With all the super delegates it's not like he's gonna pick up any ground

I care. I want to see Bernie actually beat Hildabeast in real delegates, so that when the super delegates gift her the nomination it will be clear to everyone that she lost, but through DNC corruption was given it anyway.

Hillary is focusing her time on the winner take all states.

Is CA winner take all?

No it goes by congressional district.

Swaye

topdawgnc said:

Swaye said:

2001400ex said:

Swaye said:

dhdawg said:

Who cares. With all the super delegates it's not like he's gonna pick up any ground

I care. I want to see Bernie actually beat Hildabeast in real delegates, so that when the super delegates gift her the nomination it will be clear to everyone that she lost, but through DNC corruption was given it anyway.

Hillary is focusing her time on the winner take all states.

Is CA winner take all?

No it goes by congressional district.

That was probably Bernie's best chance to eek out a win there and gobble up like 300 delegates (or however many of them are). I would assume the states that haven't voted yet look good for Bernie. I just want to see him top her in real delegates so the political machine that is the DNC can be exposed. I want the same thing for the GOP because I get the sense they are going to do everything they can to stop Trump, even though it is clear he is going to the convention ahead.

PurpleJ

sarktastic

The baseball month of April is always special.

PostGameOrangeSlices

PurpleJ said:

Finally a candidate Hillary can beat

HFNY

All Washingtonians should be embarrassed.

Starting in 2009, Obama and a Congress under Democratic control shoveled hundreds of billions of more loans to kids for college. Now many of them have crushing debt burdens, which hinders their ability to buy their first house and participate fully (if at all) in their 401(ks) or their own IRAs. I'd also argue that their credit scores are lower (raising any financing costs across the board) which hurts their future efforts to start their own businesses (small businesses create most new jobs). Obviously the kids (and their families) bear some responsibility but I hold the Federal Government more so because it is taxpayer money.

So instead of trying to reform and right size the Federal Government, Bernie Sanders wants to double down on foolish policies and increase spending by $18 trillion? Royally screw things up, help put young adults behind the 8 ball, and then tell them you'll save them if they only vote for you.

doogsinparadise

HFNY said:

All Washingtonians should be embarrassed.

Starting in 2009, Obama and a Congress under Democratic control shoveled hundreds of billions of more loans to kids for college. Now many of them have crushing debt burdens, which hinders their ability to buy their first house and participate fully (if at all) in their 401(ks) or their own IRAs. I'd also argue that their credit scores are lower (raising any financing costs across the board) which hurts their future efforts to start their own businesses (small businesses create most new jobs). Obviously the kids (and their families) bear some responsibility but I hold the Federal Government more so because it is taxpayer money.

So instead of trying to reform and right size the Federal Government, Bernie Sanders wants to double down on foolish policies and increase spending by $18 trillion? Royally screw things up, help put young adults behind the 8 ball, and then tell them you'll save them if they only vote for you.

Fuck off.

2001400ex

HFNY said:

All Washingtonians should be embarrassed.

Starting in 2009, Obama and a Congress under Democratic control shoveled hundreds of billions of more loans to kids for college. Now many of them have crushing debt burdens, which hinders their ability to buy their first house and participate fully (if at all) in their 401(ks) or their own IRAs. I'd also argue that their credit scores are lower (raising any financing costs across the board) which hurts their future efforts to start their own businesses (small businesses create most new jobs). Obviously the kids (and their families) bear some responsibility but I hold the Federal Government more so because it is taxpayer money.

So instead of trying to reform and right size the Federal Government, Bernie Sanders wants to double down on foolish policies and increase spending by $18 trillion? Royally screw things up, help put young adults behind the 8 ball, and then tell them you'll save them if they only vote for you.

Lol that's awesome. Yes totally Obama and Democratic Congress fault for more student loans.

While Bernie's plan is fucktarded, if you have too much student debt and can't get a job. Try sucking at life less.

HFNY

Uh, if it wasn't the President and a Democratic Congress who passed the legislation, then who did?

2001400ex said:

HFNY said:

All Washingtonians should be embarrassed.

Starting in 2009, Obama and a Congress under Democratic control shoveled hundreds of billions of more loans to kids for college. Now many of them have crushing debt burdens, which hinders their ability to buy their first house and participate fully (if at all) in their 401(ks) or their own IRAs. I'd also argue that their credit scores are lower (raising any financing costs across the board) which hurts their future efforts to start their own businesses (small businesses create most new jobs). Obviously the kids (and their families) bear some responsibility but I hold the Federal Government more so because it is taxpayer money.

So instead of trying to reform and right size the Federal Government, Bernie Sanders wants to double down on foolish policies and increase spending by $18 trillion? Royally screw things up, help put young adults behind the 8 ball, and then tell them you'll save them if they only vote for you.

Lol that's awesome. Yes totally Obama and Democratic Congress fault for more student loans.

While Bernie's plan is fucktarded, if you have too much student debt and can't get a job. Try sucking at life less.

2001400ex

HFNY said:

Uh, if it wasn't the President and a Democratic Congress who passed the legislation, then who did?

2001400ex said:

HFNY said:

All Washingtonians should be embarrassed.

Starting in 2009, Obama and a Congress under Democratic control shoveled hundreds of billions of more loans to kids for college. Now many of them have crushing debt burdens, which hinders their ability to buy their first house and participate fully (if at all) in their 401(ks) or their own IRAs. I'd also argue that their credit scores are lower (raising any financing costs across the board) which hurts their future efforts to start their own businesses (small businesses create most new jobs). Obviously the kids (and their families) bear some responsibility but I hold the Federal Government more so because it is taxpayer money.

So instead of trying to reform and right size the Federal Government, Bernie Sanders wants to double down on foolish policies and increase spending by $18 trillion? Royally screw things up, help put young adults behind the 8 ball, and then tell them you'll save them if they only vote for you.

Lol that's awesome. Yes totally Obama and Democratic Congress fault for more student loans.

While Bernie's plan is fucktarded, if you have too much student debt and can't get a job. Try sucking at life less.

Show me the legislation you speak of. Komo4 buttfucker.

HFNY

Tell me, who was responsible for the massive increase in Federal loans if it wasn't Obama and Congress?

2001400ex said:

HFNY said:

Uh, if it wasn't the President and a Democratic Congress who passed the legislation, then who did?

2001400ex said:

HFNY said:

All Washingtonians should be embarrassed.

Starting in 2009, Obama and a Congress under Democratic control shoveled hundreds of billions of more loans to kids for college. Now many of them have crushing debt burdens, which hinders their ability to buy their first house and participate fully (if at all) in their 401(ks) or their own IRAs. I'd also argue that their credit scores are lower (raising any financing costs across the board) which hurts their future efforts to start their own businesses (small businesses create most new jobs). Obviously the kids (and their families) bear some responsibility but I hold the Federal Government more so because it is taxpayer money.

So instead of trying to reform and right size the Federal Government, Bernie Sanders wants to double down on foolish policies and increase spending by $18 trillion? Royally screw things up, help put young adults behind the 8 ball, and then tell them you'll save them if they only vote for you.

Lol that's awesome. Yes totally Obama and Democratic Congress fault for more student loans.

While Bernie's plan is fucktarded, if you have too much student debt and can't get a job. Try sucking at life less.

Show me the legislation you speak of. Komo4 buttfucker.

PurpleJ

Don't let the dumbass students who majored in cuntwaffling off the hook. Personal responsibility counts.

HFNY

Oh and the legislation was from early 2010:

https://gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-111publ152/pdf/PLAW-111publ152.pdf

TurdBomber

The increases have happened under Obama because of the skyrocketing costs of tuition. When GWs and the R's were in charge, interest rates were 2 to 3x what they are now, so people borrowed less. Truth is that encouragement of heavy borrowing started under Bill Clinton. He erroneously called it "financial aid" and trumpeted the increase in student loan availability a good thing. He did some good things about student loans under Sallie Mae, transferring a bunch to the Dept of Ed, reducing default rates. But more money chasing the same thing resulted in inflation and more borrowing. Like with healthcare, nobody was addressing costs. It actually took a Republican legislator in WA to get our state college tuitions reduced, so the Dems have egg all over their face on this. Maybe if they understood economics, this wouldn't happen.