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2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-still-not-doing-well-enough-guarantee-nomination-143140132--election.html

It's either Trump or a contested convention. Cruz and Kasich can't get to the 50% of delegates.
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    It's Friday.
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,518 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-still-not-doing-well-enough-guarantee-nomination-143140132--election.html

    It's either Trump or a contested convention. Cruz and Kasich can't get to the 50% of delegates.

    The question is going to be whether the GOP delegates want to win the general or if they want to be 'right'.

    Trump/Kasich ticket is unbeatable. Donald takes his turn at the top, hands it off to Kasich 2020 or 2024. Double down on 'merica.

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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    PurpleThrobber said:

    2001400ex said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-still-not-doing-well-enough-guarantee-nomination-143140132--election.html

    It's either Trump or a contested convention. Cruz and Kasich can't get to the 50% of delegates.

    The question is going to be whether the GOP delegates want to win the general or if they want to be 'right'.

    Trump/Kasich ticket is unbeatable. Donald takes his turn at the top, hands it off to Kasich 2020 or 2024. Double down on 'merica.

    This assumes that Kasich would actually want to be apart of Trump's ticket. Not everyone is as spineless as Chris Christie.
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,518 Standard Supporter
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    2001400ex said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-still-not-doing-well-enough-guarantee-nomination-143140132--election.html

    It's either Trump or a contested convention. Cruz and Kasich can't get to the 50% of delegates.

    The question is going to be whether the GOP delegates want to win the general or if they want to be 'right'.

    Trump/Kasich ticket is unbeatable. Donald takes his turn at the top, hands it off to Kasich 2020 or 2024. Double down on 'merica.

    This assumes that Kasich would actually want to be apart of Trump's ticket. Not everyone is as spineless as Chris Christie.
    Donald dangles a couple of his former hotties. Game over.

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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    PurpleThrobber said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    2001400ex said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-still-not-doing-well-enough-guarantee-nomination-143140132--election.html

    It's either Trump or a contested convention. Cruz and Kasich can't get to the 50% of delegates.

    The question is going to be whether the GOP delegates want to win the general or if they want to be 'right'.

    Trump/Kasich ticket is unbeatable. Donald takes his turn at the top, hands it off to Kasich 2020 or 2024. Double down on 'merica.

    This assumes that Kasich would actually want to be apart of Trump's ticket. Not everyone is as spineless as Chris Christie.
    Donald dangles a couple of his former hotties. Game over.

    He'd have no problem pawning off Ivanka for the cause.
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  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,484
    edited March 2016
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    2001400ex said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-still-not-doing-well-enough-guarantee-nomination-143140132--election.html

    It's either Trump or a contested convention. Cruz and Kasich can't get to the 50% of delegates.

    The question is going to be whether the GOP delegates want to win the general or if they want to be 'right'.

    Trump/Kasich ticket is unbeatable. Donald takes his turn at the top, hands it off to Kasich 2020 or 2024. Double down on 'merica.

    This assumes that Kasich would actually want to be apart of Trump's ticket. Not everyone is as spineless as Chris Christie.
    I'm sure they can work that out. Kasich can smooth the ruffled feathers Trump creates. In essence, this ticket hits the Democrats on two fronts. It's kind of like "good cop/bad cop".

    However, the ego is so deeply embedded in the GOP establishment, that they'd rather see Trump crash and burn than to be wrong. They are going to go all the way with it. The establishment already made their bed and played their cards.

    If Trump wins, it's not a good look and doesn't say much about your political future when the President has a target on your back. Which many establishment members now have. If Trump loses, they can say they were right and maybe keep their cushy job. These cowards could care less about right and wrong. The smart ones kept their mouths shut, and can jump on board the wagon when it arrives. The outspoken ones that caved to left wing pressure, went all in on a pair of fives too early, and are now trying to change the rules of the game.
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  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,354
    greenblood said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    2001400ex said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-still-not-doing-well-enough-guarantee-nomination-143140132--election.html

    It's either Trump or a contested convention. Cruz and Kasich can't get to the 50% of delegates.

    The question is going to be whether the GOP delegates want to win the general or if they want to be 'right'.

    Trump/Kasich ticket is unbeatable. Donald takes his turn at the top, hands it off to Kasich 2020 or 2024. Double down on 'merica.

    This assumes that Kasich would actually want to be apart of Trump's ticket. Not everyone is as spineless as Chris Christie.
    I'm sure they can work that out. Kasich can smooth the ruffled feathers Trump creates. In essence, this ticket hits the Democrats on two fronts. It's kind of like "good cop/bad cop".

    However, the ego is so deeply embedded in the GOP establishment, that they'd rather see Trump crash and burn than to be wrong. They are going to go all the way with it. The establishment already made their bed and played their cards.

    If Trump wins, it's not a good look and doesn't say much about your political future when the President has a target on your back. Which many establishment members now have. If Trump loses, they can say they were right and maybe keep their cushy job. These cowards could care less about right and wrong. The smart ones kept their mouths shut, and can jump on board the wagon when it arrives. The outspoken ones that caved to left wing pressure, went all in on a pair of fives too early, and are now trying to change the rules of the game.
    The problem with your first paragraph is that almost no one would say, "hey, I absolutely despise the guy running for president, but the VP is ok, so I'll vote for him."
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    bananasnblondes said:

    greenblood said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    2001400ex said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-still-not-doing-well-enough-guarantee-nomination-143140132--election.html

    It's either Trump or a contested convention. Cruz and Kasich can't get to the 50% of delegates.

    The question is going to be whether the GOP delegates want to win the general or if they want to be 'right'.

    Trump/Kasich ticket is unbeatable. Donald takes his turn at the top, hands it off to Kasich 2020 or 2024. Double down on 'merica.

    This assumes that Kasich would actually want to be apart of Trump's ticket. Not everyone is as spineless as Chris Christie.
    I'm sure they can work that out. Kasich can smooth the ruffled feathers Trump creates. In essence, this ticket hits the Democrats on two fronts. It's kind of like "good cop/bad cop".

    However, the ego is so deeply embedded in the GOP establishment, that they'd rather see Trump crash and burn than to be wrong. They are going to go all the way with it. The establishment already made their bed and played their cards.

    If Trump wins, it's not a good look and doesn't say much about your political future when the President has a target on your back. Which many establishment members now have. If Trump loses, they can say they were right and maybe keep their cushy job. These cowards could care less about right and wrong. The smart ones kept their mouths shut, and can jump on board the wagon when it arrives. The outspoken ones that caved to left wing pressure, went all in on a pair of fives too early, and are now trying to change the rules of the game.
    The problem with your first paragraph is that almost no one would say, "hey, I absolutely despise the guy running for president, but the VP is ok, so I'll vote for him."
    Most people just vote for the R or D next to their name.

    HTH
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  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,148 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    bananasnblondes said:

    greenblood said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    2001400ex said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-still-not-doing-well-enough-guarantee-nomination-143140132--election.html

    It's either Trump or a contested convention. Cruz and Kasich can't get to the 50% of delegates.

    The question is going to be whether the GOP delegates want to win the general or if they want to be 'right'.

    Trump/Kasich ticket is unbeatable. Donald takes his turn at the top, hands it off to Kasich 2020 or 2024. Double down on 'merica.

    This assumes that Kasich would actually want to be apart of Trump's ticket. Not everyone is as spineless as Chris Christie.
    I'm sure they can work that out. Kasich can smooth the ruffled feathers Trump creates. In essence, this ticket hits the Democrats on two fronts. It's kind of like "good cop/bad cop".

    However, the ego is so deeply embedded in the GOP establishment, that they'd rather see Trump crash and burn than to be wrong. They are going to go all the way with it. The establishment already made their bed and played their cards.

    If Trump wins, it's not a good look and doesn't say much about your political future when the President has a target on your back. Which many establishment members now have. If Trump loses, they can say they were right and maybe keep their cushy job. These cowards could care less about right and wrong. The smart ones kept their mouths shut, and can jump on board the wagon when it arrives. The outspoken ones that caved to left wing pressure, went all in on a pair of fives too early, and are now trying to change the rules of the game.
    The problem with your first paragraph is that almost no one would say, "hey, I absolutely despise the guy running for president, but the VP is ok, so I'll vote for him."
    Most people just vote for the R or D next to their name.

    HTH
    In 2004 maybe

    Things have changed. Independents are 37% of r.v. in this state.
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    2001400ex said:

    bananasnblondes said:

    greenblood said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    2001400ex said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-still-not-doing-well-enough-guarantee-nomination-143140132--election.html

    It's either Trump or a contested convention. Cruz and Kasich can't get to the 50% of delegates.

    The question is going to be whether the GOP delegates want to win the general or if they want to be 'right'.

    Trump/Kasich ticket is unbeatable. Donald takes his turn at the top, hands it off to Kasich 2020 or 2024. Double down on 'merica.

    This assumes that Kasich would actually want to be apart of Trump's ticket. Not everyone is as spineless as Chris Christie.
    I'm sure they can work that out. Kasich can smooth the ruffled feathers Trump creates. In essence, this ticket hits the Democrats on two fronts. It's kind of like "good cop/bad cop".

    However, the ego is so deeply embedded in the GOP establishment, that they'd rather see Trump crash and burn than to be wrong. They are going to go all the way with it. The establishment already made their bed and played their cards.

    If Trump wins, it's not a good look and doesn't say much about your political future when the President has a target on your back. Which many establishment members now have. If Trump loses, they can say they were right and maybe keep their cushy job. These cowards could care less about right and wrong. The smart ones kept their mouths shut, and can jump on board the wagon when it arrives. The outspoken ones that caved to left wing pressure, went all in on a pair of fives too early, and are now trying to change the rules of the game.
    The problem with your first paragraph is that almost no one would say, "hey, I absolutely despise the guy running for president, but the VP is ok, so I'll vote for him."
    Most people just vote for the R or D next to their name.

    HTH
    In 2004 maybe

    Things have changed. Independents are 37% of r.v. in this state.
    So, " most people " still applies.
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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,212 Standard Supporter
    PurpleThrobber said:

    2001400ex said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-still-not-doing-well-enough-guarantee-nomination-143140132--election.html

    It's either Trump or a contested convention. Cruz and Kasich can't get to the 50% of delegates.

    The question is going to be whether the GOP delegates want to win the general or if they want to be 'right'.

    Trump/Kasich ticket is unbeatable. Donald takes his turn at the top, hands it off to Kasich 2020 or 2024. Double down on 'merica.

    Kasich is the new "establishment" guy.
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  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Kasich is a loser.

    Trump is a winner. Zero chance Trump throws the VP lifeline to save Kasich.

    Kasich promising full amnesty within 100 days of him taking office was a career killer for him. He done.
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  • topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
    Sledog said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    2001400ex said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-still-not-doing-well-enough-guarantee-nomination-143140132--election.html

    It's either Trump or a contested convention. Cruz and Kasich can't get to the 50% of delegates.

    The question is going to be whether the GOP delegates want to win the general or if they want to be 'right'.

    Trump/Kasich ticket is unbeatable. Donald takes his turn at the top, hands it off to Kasich 2020 or 2024. Double down on 'merica.

    Kasich Cruz is the new "establishment" guy.
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  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,354
    Kasich said today that under no circumstances would he be VP on a Trump ticket
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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,425 Founders Club
    Hondo failed math.
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  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    bananasnblondes said:

    Kasich said today that under no circumstances would he be VP on a Trump ticket

    Yeah... Cause you gotta be asked first.
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  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,148 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    2001400ex said:

    bananasnblondes said:

    greenblood said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    2001400ex said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-still-not-doing-well-enough-guarantee-nomination-143140132--election.html

    It's either Trump or a contested convention. Cruz and Kasich can't get to the 50% of delegates.

    The question is going to be whether the GOP delegates want to win the general or if they want to be 'right'.

    Trump/Kasich ticket is unbeatable. Donald takes his turn at the top, hands it off to Kasich 2020 or 2024. Double down on 'merica.

    This assumes that Kasich would actually want to be apart of Trump's ticket. Not everyone is as spineless as Chris Christie.
    I'm sure they can work that out. Kasich can smooth the ruffled feathers Trump creates. In essence, this ticket hits the Democrats on two fronts. It's kind of like "good cop/bad cop".

    However, the ego is so deeply embedded in the GOP establishment, that they'd rather see Trump crash and burn than to be wrong. They are going to go all the way with it. The establishment already made their bed and played their cards.

    If Trump wins, it's not a good look and doesn't say much about your political future when the President has a target on your back. Which many establishment members now have. If Trump loses, they can say they were right and maybe keep their cushy job. These cowards could care less about right and wrong. The smart ones kept their mouths shut, and can jump on board the wagon when it arrives. The outspoken ones that caved to left wing pressure, went all in on a pair of fives too early, and are now trying to change the rules of the game.
    The problem with your first paragraph is that almost no one would say, "hey, I absolutely despise the guy running for president, but the VP is ok, so I'll vote for him."
    Most people just vote for the R or D next to their name.

    HTH
    In 2004 maybe

    Things have changed. Independents are 37% of r.v. in this state.
    So, " most people " still applies.
    technically, barely?
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