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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,937
    The end of the Republican Party if Romney goes through with it ...

    The Republicans would be better served to understand what it is in Trump that is exciting people and figure out how to embrace that going forward ...

    The "silent" majority is clearly more vocal than many thought.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,233 Founders Club
    If Romney's plan is really to sway the floor of the convention....... Good luck.

    To quote Senator Bannon, "winners win."
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Tequilla said:

    The end of the Republican Party if Romney goes through with it ...

    The Republicans would be better served to understand what it is in Trump that is exciting people and figure out how to embrace that going forward ...

    The "silent" majority is clearly more vocal than many thought.

    I've been thinking about this. Really the Republican party is split. About one third of the voters want something not in the establishment. About one third want a constitutionalist. And about one third want an establishment candidate.

    Democrats, about half want a tax and spend liberal and about half want an establishment moderate (fuck you, look at Hilary's actual positions, they are fairly middle of the road on most subjects, only because she knows she needs to win the moderates).
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,505
    It was pretty obvious by the fact he didn't endorse anybody.

    If Romney gets the establishment's backing and does this, it will destroy the Republican Party for decades. Here's the problem they have:

    The establishment will have to sell the American people that their chosen candidate (Romney) is better suited than any of the candidates that were voted. In essence, you are telling your voters, that your votes don't count.

    Trump would run a third party nomination, and he won't run it to win, he'll run it to destroy Romney. to a point that he'll have Romney suffocating in a giant pile of shit. I'm willing to bet Trump actually would get more votes than Romney in this case.

    It would be a giant embarrassment for the GOP, and their image would be that of a joke for years to come.

    If they just got on board with Trump, and lose the election, they'd get ridiculed by some, as the party that brought up Trump. But in Romney's case, he'll turn the GOP into the party that was defeated by Trump. Imagine the stories Trump will be able to tell. He can brag until his dying day that he single handedly took down an entire party.
  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    2001400ex said:

    Tequilla said:

    The end of the Republican Party if Romney goes through with it ...

    The Republicans would be better served to understand what it is in Trump that is exciting people and figure out how to embrace that going forward ...

    The "silent" majority is clearly more vocal than many thought.

    I've been thinking about this. Really the Republican party is split. About one third of the voters want something not in the establishment. About one third want a constitutionalist. And about one third want an establishment candidate.

    Democrats, about half want a tax and spend liberal and about half want an establishment moderate (fuck you, look at Hilary's actual positions, they are fairly middle of the road on most subjects, only because she knows she needs to win the moderates).
    You still don't get Bernie, stupid Doog.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Tequilla said:

    The end of the Republican Party if Romney goes through with it ...

    The Republicans would be better served to understand what it is in Trump that is exciting people and figure out how to embrace that going forward ...

    The "silent" majority is clearly more vocal than many thought.

    I've been thinking about this. Really the Republican party is split. About one third of the voters want something not in the establishment. About one third want a constitutionalist. And about one third want an establishment candidate.

    Democrats, about half want a tax and spend liberal and about half want an establishment moderate (fuck you, look at Hilary's actual positions, they are fairly middle of the road on most subjects, only because she knows she needs to win the moderates).
    You still don't get Bernie, stupid Doog.
    I'm talking voters perception. You still don't get reality.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,512 Founders Club

    2001400ex said:

    Tequilla said:

    The end of the Republican Party if Romney goes through with it ...

    The Republicans would be better served to understand what it is in Trump that is exciting people and figure out how to embrace that going forward ...

    The "silent" majority is clearly more vocal than many thought.

    I've been thinking about this. Really the Republican party is split. About one third of the voters want something not in the establishment. About one third want a constitutionalist. And about one third want an establishment candidate.

    Democrats, about half want a tax and spend liberal and about half want an establishment moderate (fuck you, look at Hilary's actual positions, they are fairly middle of the road on most subjects, only because she knows she needs to win the moderates).
    You still don't get Bernie, stupid Doog.
    What's old, rich, white, and red all over?
  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    It was pretty obvious by the fact he didn't endorse anybody.

    If Romney gets the establishment's backing and does this, it will destroy the Republican Party for decades. Here's the problem they have:

    The establishment will have to sell the American people that their chosen candidate (Romney) is better suited than any of the candidates that were voted. In essence, you are telling your voters, that your votes don't count.

    Trump would run a third party nomination, and he won't run it to win, he'll run it to destroy Romney. to a point that he'll have Romney suffocating in a giant pile of shit. I'm willing to bet Trump actually would get more votes than Romney in this case.

    It would be a giant embarrassment for the GOP, and their image would be that of a joke for years to come.

    If they just got on board with Trump, and lose the election, they'd get ridiculed by some, as the party that brought up Trump. But in Romney's case, he'll turn the GOP into the party that was defeated by Trump. Imagine the stories Trump will be able to tell. He can brag until his dying day that he single handedly took down an entire party.

    I'd love to see Romney get the nomination, Trump run third party, and see Bernie jump in after it's clear Hillary would moonwalk into the White House going against a fractured republican party alone. Burn the whole fucking thing down.

    What really needs to happen is for the US to drop winner take all and switch to First-past-the-post voting.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,937
    GOP party trying to destroy itself in the last 24 hours
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Tequilla said:

    GOP party trying to destroy itself in the last 24 hours years.

    Crisped.
  • priapismpriapism Member Posts: 2,200

    It was pretty obvious by the fact he didn't endorse anybody.

    If Romney gets the establishment's backing and does this, it will destroy the Republican Party for decades. Here's the problem they have:

    The establishment will have to sell the American people that their chosen candidate (Romney) is better suited than any of the candidates that were voted. In essence, you are telling your voters, that your votes don't count.

    Trump would run a third party nomination, and he won't run it to win, he'll run it to destroy Romney. to a point that he'll have Romney suffocating in a giant pile of shit. I'm willing to bet Trump actually would get more votes than Romney in this case.

    It would be a giant embarrassment for the GOP, and their image would be that of a joke for years to come.

    If they just got on board with Trump, and lose the election, they'd get ridiculed by some, as the party that brought up Trump. But in Romney's case, he'll turn the GOP into the party that was defeated by Trump. Imagine the stories Trump will be able to tell. He can brag until his dying day that he single handedly took down an entire party.

    I'd love to see Romney get the nomination, Trump run third party, and see Bernie jump in after it's clear Hillary would moonwalk into the White House going against a fractured republican party alone. Burn the whole fucking thing down.

    What really needs to happen is for the US to drop winner take all and switch to First-past-the-post voting.

    I agree with your first paragraph, as the establishment has no intention to stop running up the yearly debt load and actually fix things that have been broken for decades, but it's probably better to have a few rounds of tournaments in elections or else -> hello Egyptian Islamic Party.

    Romney always came off as a snake-oil salesman to me, but I like him better than Hillary or Trump this year. I'd vote Sanders as my #1 tho.
  • HeretoBeatmyChestHeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Roger Stone reported last week that the plan was for Romney to come in if Rubio faltered. He called it before anyone.
  • section8section8 Member Posts: 1,581
    Romney 2012 reminds me of Hillary 2008/2016. Smug, overly confident candidate desperate to get the White House for personal satisfaction or out of some sense of entitlement.

  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,394 Standard Supporter
    The old rich bankers/families that make up the establishment and actually pick the president's is mighty worried about Trump and Cruz. That's plenty of reason to vote for them.
  • HeretoBeatmyChestHeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Sledog said:

    The old rich bankers/families that make up the establishment and actually pick the president's is mighty worried about Trump and Cruz. That's plenty of reason to vote for them.

    Agree on Trump but not on Cruz. Cruz is the con man in the race. His whole outsider shtick has been well done but he's all for continuing the empire abroad and status quo.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,394 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    The old rich bankers/families that make up the establishment and actually pick the president's is mighty worried about Trump and Cruz. That's plenty of reason to vote for them.

    Agree on Trump but not on Cruz. Cruz is the con man in the race. His whole outsider shtick has been well done but he's all for continuing the empire abroad and status quo.
    Cruz has fought them face to face and in the supreme court and won. None of the others have that track record. Like all politicians we won't know until they're there. Paul Ryan comes to mind.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    The old rich bankers/families that make up the establishment and actually pick the president's is mighty worried about Trump and Cruz. That's plenty of reason to vote for them.

    Agree on Trump but not on Cruz. Cruz is the con man in the race. His whole outsider shtick has been well done but he's all for continuing the empire abroad and status quo.
    Cruz has fought them face to face and in the supreme court and won. None of the others have that track record. Like all politicians we won't know until they're there. Paul Ryan comes to mind.
    He such the constitutionalist, he doesn't know what "natural born citizen" means.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,394 Standard Supporter
    He obviously know the Obingo definition.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    He obviously know the Obingo definition.

    Wwooosssshhhh
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,394 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    He obviously know the Obingo definition.

    Wwooosssshhhh
    That sudden rush of air through your ears is getting noisy.
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