Winston Churchill on socialism

AtomicPiss

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DerekJohnson said:

Good thing no one is proposing we become a socialistic society.

PurpleJ

It's Friday somewhere.

sarktastic

Smoking Winston's have killed a lot of people.

doogsinparadise

I'm offended that any American would look up to such a rabid monarchist as Churchill.

Southerndawg

doogsinparadise said:

I'm offended that any American would look up to such a rabid monarchist as Churchill.

Fuck you and the pony you rode in on

doogsinparadise

Southerndawg said:

doogsinparadise said:

I'm offended that any American would look up to such a rabid monarchist as Churchill.

Fuck you and the pony you rode in on

Hook, line, and sinker.





That being said, Churchill is still overrated. Got himself kicked out of government because of incompetency in WWI, spent the next fifteen years drinking his way through a lifetime of Bordeaux reds that drink like a merlot, and then lost the empire and the election coming out of WWII largely because of his own hubris and inability to look forward. Looks good in hindsight because Chamberlain was such a failure.

Southerndawg

If we're bashing leaders who like to drink I'm out

RaccoonHarry

doogsinparadise said:

Southerndawg said:

doogsinparadise said:

I'm offended that any American would look up to such a rabid monarchist as Churchill.

Fuck you and the pony you rode in on

Hook, line, and sinker.





That being said, Churchill is still overrated. Got himself kicked out of government because of incompetency in WWI, spent the next fifteen years drinking his way through a lifetime of Bordeaux reds that drink like a merlot, and then lost the empire and the election coming out of WWII largely because of his own hubris and inability to look forward. Looks good in hindsight because Chamberlain was such a failure.

Read a couple biographies on Churchill then get back to us with the last U.S. politician who approached his brilliance. Lincoln would be my guess.

ApostleofGrief

I am not in favor of socialism, but keep in mind that:

Churchill was born into the family of the Dukes of Marlborough, a branch of the Spencer family. His father, Lord Randolph Churchill, was a charismatic politician who served as Chancellor of the Exchequer; his mother, Jennie Jerome, was an American socialite.

Had he not been born into the upper classes he would have a different accent and be much poorer by all probability. The British as we all know are very class conscious. Of course he is not going to like anything that reeks of the unwashed masses, ie., socialism.

GrundleStiltzkin

You mean the guy from Aces High?
http://youtu.be/SfyesrGMCxI

doogsinparadise

RaccoonHarry said:

doogsinparadise said:

Southerndawg said:

doogsinparadise said:

I'm offended that any American would look up to such a rabid monarchist as Churchill.

Fuck you and the pony you rode in on

Hook, line, and sinker.





That being said, Churchill is still overrated. Got himself kicked out of government because of incompetency in WWI, spent the next fifteen years drinking his way through a lifetime of Bordeaux reds that drink like a merlot, and then lost the empire and the election coming out of WWII largely because of his own hubris and inability to look forward. Looks good in hindsight because Chamberlain was such a failure.

Read a couple biographies on Churchill then get back to us with the last U.S. politician who approached his brilliance. Lincoln would be my guess.

Like this one? I'm not here to defile his name, most likely the right guy for the years between 1940 and 1945. But this idea that he was somehow a model leader that we should still be looking to for inspiration in 2016 is scurrilous, Roosevelt and Stalin saved Britain's blushes in the war.

PurpleJ

Britain lost the empire way before WW2.

PurpleThrobber

ApostleofGrief said:

I am not in favor of socialism, but keep in mind that:

Churchill was born into the family of the Dukes of Marlborough, a branch of the Spencer family. His father, Lord Randolph Churchill, was a charismatic politician who served as Chancellor of the Exchequer; his mother, Jennie Jerome, was an American socialite.

Had he not been born into the upper classes he would have a different accent and be much poorer by all probability. The British as we all know are very class conscious. Of course he is not going to like anything that reeks of the unwashed masses, ie., socialism.

And FDR was a Hudson River blueblood. What's your point?

doogsinparadise

PurpleThrobber said:

ApostleofGrief said:

I am not in favor of socialism, but keep in mind that:

Churchill was born into the family of the Dukes of Marlborough, a branch of the Spencer family. His father, Lord Randolph Churchill, was a charismatic politician who served as Chancellor of the Exchequer; his mother, Jennie Jerome, was an American socialite.

Had he not been born into the upper classes he would have a different accent and be much poorer by all probability. The British as we all know are very class conscious. Of course he is not going to like anything that reeks of the unwashed masses, ie., socialism.

And FDR was a Hudson River blueblood. What's your point?

That Churchill was an unreconstructed toff.

Octavian

Sledog

Think what you like about Churchill but the quote in question is absolutely correct. Of course Margaret said "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."