This raising the minimum wage shit really bothers me ...
1) Jobs that pay minimum wage aren't designed as being career-based jobs where working full-time is aspirational
2) Minimum wage jobs are for those in high school and college that need to learn a bit about responsibility, gain basic schools in the work place, and could use some spending money
Australia does a hybrid of the two models as the minimum wage scales with the age of the worker.
This helps kids get jobs, but also encourages employers to get rid of them as they get older.
I actually would be in favor of something like this.
That wouldn't pass in this country because it violates the discrimination act. You can't base rates by age. Older people would also cry discrimination when they get passed over for a job by a kid. This idea wouldn't stand a chance.
These are the kinds of thought processes where people in this country need to take step back, take a walk, gather a little perspective (if they are capable of it), and understand common sense.
I spent 4 years (2 in high school and 2 in college) working in a restaurant in a wide array of roles. I never made a ton of money but I got pay increases based on merit as well as intangible benefits that helped. I also gained valuable experience on commitment, responsibility, and learning some life skills for the rest of my life.
I spent the next 3 years working in a grocery store where I had a number of responsibilities that were both in/out of what the "responsibilities" of my role were ... things that I'm sure the union would have been upset at me for doing. But I got exposure to inventory management, product ordering, customer service, product marketing, and general management that provided some good real world experience to supplement an education. Not to mention got paid more than I did at a restaurant and got some health benefits to go with it.
That experience parlayed into an evening management position before heading to grad school. I had a number of people that worked for me but most of the courtesy clerks were high school kids looking for extra spending money and were where I was 5 years prior and a lot of the checkers were moms, etc. that were looking for hours that fit around their family schedule.
The moral of the story is that people work in roles that fit their experience and needs. Just let it be that way.
You misunderstand me. I'm for that proposed wage chart, but there is no way in hell our government is going to push something like that through. It will go to the Supreme Court who will reject it based on the discrimination act. The only way to pass something like this is to rework the discrimination act, and you can imagine the revolt that would follow from the far left, especially unions. It would take two terms for a president to push that through, and the moment a left wing nut takes over, he or she will repeal it.
I absolutely understood what you were getting at ...
I couldn't agree more ...
We pass things that seem like good ideas at the time but somewhere down the line isn't particularly well thought out or created an unintended consequence. At that point, revisit what is working and not and adjust as needed.
Part of the reason shit doesn't work is because we're tied up with rules/laws that are tied to time periods that aren't applicable going forward.
But understand the scare tactic that will be used especially to minorities. "If they can change the law for age, what prevents them from doing that for race/gender/etc." That's what guilt ridden people like APAG would argue.
This raising the minimum wage shit really bothers me ...
1) Jobs that pay minimum wage aren't designed as being career-based jobs where working full-time is aspirational
2) Minimum wage jobs are for those in high school and college that need to learn a bit about responsibility, gain basic schools in the work place, and could use some spending money
Australia does a hybrid of the two models as the minimum wage scales with the age of the worker.
This helps kids get jobs, but also encourages employers to get rid of them as they get older.
I actually would be in favor of something like this.
That wouldn't pass in this country because it violates the discrimination act. You can't base rates by age. Older people would also cry discrimination when they get passed over for a job by a kid. This idea wouldn't stand a chance.
These are the kinds of thought processes where people in this country need to take step back, take a walk, gather a little perspective (if they are capable of it), and understand common sense.
I spent 4 years (2 in high school and 2 in college) working in a restaurant in a wide array of roles. I never made a ton of money but I got pay increases based on merit as well as intangible benefits that helped. I also gained valuable experience on commitment, responsibility, and learning some life skills for the rest of my life.
I spent the next 3 years working in a grocery store where I had a number of responsibilities that were both in/out of what the "responsibilities" of my role were ... things that I'm sure the union would have been upset at me for doing. But I got exposure to inventory management, product ordering, customer service, product marketing, and general management that provided some good real world experience to supplement an education. Not to mention got paid more than I did at a restaurant and got some health benefits to go with it.
That experience parlayed into an evening management position before heading to grad school. I had a number of people that worked for me but most of the courtesy clerks were high school kids looking for extra spending money and were where I was 5 years prior and a lot of the checkers were moms, etc. that were looking for hours that fit around their family schedule.
The moral of the story is that people work in roles that fit their experience and needs. Just let it be that way.
You misunderstand me. I'm for that proposed wage chart, but there is no way in hell our government is going to push something like that through. It will go to the Supreme Court who will reject it based on the discrimination act. The only way to pass something like this is to rework the discrimination act, and you can imagine the revolt that would follow from the far left, especially unions. It would take two terms for a president to push that through, and the moment a left wing nut takes over, he or she will repeal it.
I absolutely understood what you were getting at ...
I couldn't agree more ...
We pass things that seem like good ideas at the time but somewhere down the line isn't particularly well thought out or created an unintended consequence. At that point, revisit what is working and not and adjust as needed.
Part of the reason shit doesn't work is because we're tied up with rules/laws that are tied to time periods that aren't applicable going forward.
But understand the scare tactic that will be used especially to minorities. "If they can change the law for age, what prevents them from doing that for race/gender/etc." That's what guilt ridden people like APAG would argue.
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