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  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?






    answer: A coin toss.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?






    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109

    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?






    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
    racist.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,000 Founders Club

    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?






    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
    Hilary is an opportunist with out a soul
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    I'm hearing Bernie is Hitler.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    All the quarters were made in Chicago. By union workers.
    Two faced like her.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?






    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
    There's nothing particularly liberal about Hillary. She is much more a "ram it down your throat" progressive, and as Race pointed out, an opportunist.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?






    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
    There's nothing particularly liberal about Hillary. She is much more a "ram it down your throat" progressive, and as Race pointed out, an opportunist.
    Hillary wasn't a progressive until Bernie forced her to be one.

    If she gets the nomination, she'll drop the act and go back to her roots; being whatever she thinks will win her the general election.
    I agree, the opportunist in her will drive her to appear whatever she thinks she needs to appear to win, but her actions have always been that of a hard line progressive. Hillarycare is exhibit A on the national stage.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?






    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
    There's nothing particularly liberal about Hillary. She is much more a "ram it down your throat" progressive, and as Race pointed out, an opportunist.
    Hillary wasn't a progressive until Bernie forced her to be one.

    If she gets the nomination, she'll drop the act and go back to her roots; being whatever she thinks will win her the general election.
    I agree, the opportunist in her will drive her to appear whatever she thinks she needs to appear to win, but her actions have always been that of a hard line progressive. Hillarycare is exhibit A on the national stage.
    I guess, but "hardline" progressives don't flip flop on as many issues as she has.

    Just watch, she will stop mentioning Obama as soon as she gets the nomination, after riding his dick for the last few weeks.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,093

    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?






    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
    There's nothing particularly liberal about Hillary. She is much more a "ram it down your throat" progressive, and as Race pointed out, an opportunist.
    Hillary wasn't a progressive until Bernie forced her to be one.

    If she gets the nomination, she'll drop the act and go back to her roots; being whatever she thinks will win her the general election.
    I agree, the opportunist in her will drive her to appear whatever she thinks she needs to appear to win, but her actions have always been that of a hard line progressive. Hillarycare is exhibit A on the national stage.
    I guess, but "hardline" progressives don't flip flop on as many issues as she has.

    Just watch, she will stop mentioning Obama as soon as she gets the nomination, after riding his dick for the last few weeks.
    If she doesn't get indicted first. DNC doesn't feel the Bern and they'll need time to get their own guy in there.

    Wheels of justice will turn quickly now. Very quickly.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?






    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
    There's nothing particularly liberal about Hillary. She is much more a "ram it down your throat" progressive, and as Race pointed out, an opportunist.
    Hillary wasn't a progressive until Bernie forced her to be one.

    If she gets the nomination, she'll drop the act and go back to her roots; being whatever she thinks will win her the general election.
    I agree, the opportunist in her will drive her to appear whatever she thinks she needs to appear to win, but her actions have always been that of a hard line progressive. Hillarycare is exhibit A on the national stage.
    I guess, but "hardline" progressives don't flip flop on as many issues as she has.

    Just watch, she will stop mentioning Obama as soon as she gets the nomination, after riding his dick for the last few weeks.
    If she doesn't get indicted first. DNC doesn't feel the Bern and they'll need time to get their own guy in there.

    Wheels of justice will turn quickly now. Very quickly.
    I agree with your take on the DNC, but the Obama administration has control over the Attorney General, not that Loretta Lynch or Eric Holder before her would ever indict Hillary Clinton on their own. Bottom line, if Obama doesn't want an indictment, it won't happen without something like a massive leak from the FBI that might force his hand, and even that might not be enough. We'll see, but the Clintons have always been extremely slippery, and she appears to be pandering to Obama's base while at the same time making quid pro quo deals with him. Supreme Court Justice Obama, right out of House of Cards. Can't make this shit up.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,093

    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?






    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
    There's nothing particularly liberal about Hillary. She is much more a "ram it down your throat" progressive, and as Race pointed out, an opportunist.
    Hillary wasn't a progressive until Bernie forced her to be one.

    If she gets the nomination, she'll drop the act and go back to her roots; being whatever she thinks will win her the general election.
    I agree, the opportunist in her will drive her to appear whatever she thinks she needs to appear to win, but her actions have always been that of a hard line progressive. Hillarycare is exhibit A on the national stage.
    I guess, but "hardline" progressives don't flip flop on as many issues as she has.

    Just watch, she will stop mentioning Obama as soon as she gets the nomination, after riding his dick for the last few weeks.
    If she doesn't get indicted first. DNC doesn't feel the Bern and they'll need time to get their own guy in there.

    Wheels of justice will turn quickly now. Very quickly.
    I agree with your take on the DNC, but the Obama administration has control over the Attorney General, not that Loretta Lynch or Eric Holder before her would ever indict Hillary Clinton on their own. Bottom line, if Obama doesn't want an indictment, it won't happen without something like a massive leak from the FBI that might force his hand, and even that might not be enough. We'll see, but the Clintons have always been extremely slippery, and she appears to be pandering to Obama's base while at the same time making quid pro quo deals with him. Supreme Court Justice Obama, right out of House of Cards. Can't make this shit up.
    Agree on the House Of Cards angle but also know Uncle Joe is sitting out there as the sympathetic, rise from grief to the rescue the party/country candidate.

    Biden much more electable vs. whoever survives the GOP play-in rounds.

  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?





    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
    There's nothing particularly liberal about Hillary. She is much more a "ram it down your throat" progressive, and as Race pointed out, an opportunist.
    Exactly. I love how the central planner/nanny state/authoritarian bunch has co-opted the word "liberal" to make themselves sound so open and non-threatening. And as we've all learned, if you say something enough times, especially to the brain-dead public, it becomes the de-facto truth. Hillary Clinton is as liberal as puppy is politically correct.

    Thomas Jefferson was a fucking liberal.
    Kinda like the GOP co-opting the term conservative to make themselves appear rational.

    What's with the labels, man?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,000 Founders Club

    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?





    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
    There's nothing particularly liberal about Hillary. She is much more a "ram it down your throat" progressive, and as Race pointed out, an opportunist.
    Exactly. I love how the central planner/nanny state/authoritarian bunch has co-opted the word "liberal" to make themselves sound so open and non-threatening. And as we've all learned, if you say something enough times, especially to the brain-dead public, it becomes the de-facto truth. Hillary Clinton is as liberal as puppy is politically correct.

    Thomas Jefferson was a fucking liberal.
    Kinda like the GOP co-opting the term conservative to make themselves appear rational.

    What's with the labels, man?
    A history major should know that being a conservative was anything but considered rational until Ronald Raygun made it respectable. From that point every Republican calls themselves a conservative, including the ones you hob nob with at the Country Club.

    The schism today in the GOP is because of the GOPers that still think conservatives are not rational

    Goldwater made his stand on less government and state's rights at the same time LBJ was pushing civil rights and state's rights were a code word for keeping Jim Crow. Hence, conservatives are racist, still the playbook after all these years.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?





    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
    There's nothing particularly liberal about Hillary. She is much more a "ram it down your throat" progressive, and as Race pointed out, an opportunist.
    Exactly. I love how the central planner/nanny state/authoritarian bunch has co-opted the word "liberal" to make themselves sound so open and non-threatening. And as we've all learned, if you say something enough times, especially to the brain-dead public, it becomes the de-facto truth. Hillary Clinton is as liberal as puppy is politically correct.

    Thomas Jefferson was a fucking liberal.
    Kinda like the GOP co-opting the term conservative to make themselves appear rational.

    What's with the labels, man?
    A history major should know that being a conservative was anything but considered rational until Ronald Raygun made it respectable. From that point every Republican calls themselves a conservative, including the ones you hob nob with at the Country Club.

    The schism today in the GOP is because of the GOPers that still think conservatives are not rational

    Goldwater made his stand on less government and state's rights at the same time LBJ was pushing civil rights and state's rights were a code word for keeping Jim Crow. Hence, conservatives are racist, still the playbook after all these years.
    Agreed. Crazy irrational bible thumpers have ruined true conservatism.
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109

    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?





    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
    There's nothing particularly liberal about Hillary. She is much more a "ram it down your throat" progressive, and as Race pointed out, an opportunist.
    Exactly. I love how the central planner/nanny state/authoritarian bunch has co-opted the word "liberal" to make themselves sound so open and non-threatening. And as we've all learned, if you say something enough times, especially to the brain-dead public, it becomes the de-facto truth. Hillary Clinton is as liberal as puppy is politically correct.

    Thomas Jefferson was a fucking liberal.
    Kinda like the GOP co-opting the term conservative to make themselves appear rational.

    What's with the labels, man?
    A history major should know that being a conservative was anything but considered rational until Ronald Raygun made it respectable. From that point every Republican calls themselves a conservative, including the ones you hob nob with at the Country Club.

    The schism today in the GOP is because of the GOPers that still think conservatives are not rational

    Goldwater made his stand on less government and state's rights at the same time LBJ was pushing civil rights and state's rights were a code word for keeping Jim Crow. Hence, conservatives are racist, still the playbook after all these years.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,000 Founders Club

    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?





    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
    There's nothing particularly liberal about Hillary. She is much more a "ram it down your throat" progressive, and as Race pointed out, an opportunist.
    Exactly. I love how the central planner/nanny state/authoritarian bunch has co-opted the word "liberal" to make themselves sound so open and non-threatening. And as we've all learned, if you say something enough times, especially to the brain-dead public, it becomes the de-facto truth. Hillary Clinton is as liberal as puppy is politically correct.

    Thomas Jefferson was a fucking liberal.
    Kinda like the GOP co-opting the term conservative to make themselves appear rational.

    What's with the labels, man?
    A history major should know that being a conservative was anything but considered rational until Ronald Raygun made it respectable. From that point every Republican calls themselves a conservative, including the ones you hob nob with at the Country Club.

    The schism today in the GOP is because of the GOPers that still think conservatives are not rational

    Goldwater made his stand on less government and state's rights at the same time LBJ was pushing civil rights and state's rights were a code word for keeping Jim Crow. Hence, conservatives are racist, still the playbook after all these years.
    Agreed. Crazy irrational bible thumpers have ruined true conservatism.
    I don't have a problem with this statement
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109

    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?





    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
    There's nothing particularly liberal about Hillary. She is much more a "ram it down your throat" progressive, and as Race pointed out, an opportunist.
    Exactly. I love how the central planner/nanny state/authoritarian bunch has co-opted the word "liberal" to make themselves sound so open and non-threatening. And as we've all learned, if you say something enough times, especially to the brain-dead public, it becomes the de-facto truth. Hillary Clinton is as liberal as puppy is politically correct.

    Thomas Jefferson was a fucking liberal.
    Kinda like the GOP co-opting the term conservative to make themselves appear rational.

    What's with the labels, man?
    A history major should know that being a conservative was anything but considered rational until Ronald Raygun made it respectable. From that point every Republican calls themselves a conservative, including the ones you hob nob with at the Country Club.

    The schism today in the GOP is because of the GOPers that still think conservatives are not rational

    Goldwater made his stand on less government and state's rights at the same time LBJ was pushing civil rights and state's rights were a code word for keeping Jim Crow. Hence, conservatives are racist, still the playbook after all these years.
    Agreed. Crazy irrational bible thumpers have ruined true conservatism.
    I don't have a problem with this statement
    Except for the fact that the Establishment RNC went out and intentionally recruited Ralph Reed in the 80's. Now, these are the guys who didn't vote in the last several elections.

    Just sayin'.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,000 Founders Club
    d2d said:

    d2d said:

    Winning 6 straight coin flips is awesome

    What's the difference between a progressive and a socialist?





    answer: A coin toss.
    Hilary is a liberal, not a progressive.
    There's nothing particularly liberal about Hillary. She is much more a "ram it down your throat" progressive, and as Race pointed out, an opportunist.
    Exactly. I love how the central planner/nanny state/authoritarian bunch has co-opted the word "liberal" to make themselves sound so open and non-threatening. And as we've all learned, if you say something enough times, especially to the brain-dead public, it becomes the de-facto truth. Hillary Clinton is as liberal as puppy is politically correct.

    Thomas Jefferson was a fucking liberal.
    Kinda like the GOP co-opting the term conservative to make themselves appear rational.

    What's with the labels, man?
    A history major should know that being a conservative was anything but considered rational until Ronald Raygun made it respectable. From that point every Republican calls themselves a conservative, including the ones you hob nob with at the Country Club.

    The schism today in the GOP is because of the GOPers that still think conservatives are not rational

    Goldwater made his stand on less government and state's rights at the same time LBJ was pushing civil rights and state's rights were a code word for keeping Jim Crow. Hence, conservatives are racist, still the playbook after all these years.
    Agreed. Crazy irrational bible thumpers have ruined true conservatism.
    I don't have a problem with this statement
    Except for the fact that the Establishment RNC went out and intentionally recruited Ralph Reed in the 80's. Now, these are the guys who didn't vote in the last several elections.

    Just sayin'.
    Reagan needed the evangelicals no question

    But if you don't vote then you don't count

    If the religious right didn't think Lucas McCain or Mitt Romney were better than Obama they get what they didn't vote for
  • DugtheDoog
    DugtheDoog Member Posts: 3,180
    edited February 2016

    But true conservatism would have you evangelize from the church and keep the government out of social issues and let public policy be based on the greater good. If you're against abortion don't get one and help women find another alternative. Stop wasting time trying to outlaw it. Back alley abortions are not good public policy

    I'm a pro-life libertarian and I agree with this message. I'm constantly arguing with people about this. I think drugs should be legalized, along with prostitution, sports gambling, etc. Think about it for a second...we can't bet on a sports game which a well-informed bettor can win 55-60% of his bets, yet mentally ill/borderline mentally ill can flush thousands a year down the drain in the gubermint's lottery they have less chance of winning than if every American's name was put in a fucking hat. I don't necessarily like that abortion is legal but as a libertarian I have to take my medicine and realize it should be left up to the states and dealt with on a local level. Just like marijuana laws, etc. And with that said, guberners and state legislatures should stop being such fucking pussies and start breaking they hymen of the goddamn tenth amendment.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    But true conservatism would have you evangelize from the church and keep the government out of social issues and let public policy be based on the greater good. If you're against abortion don't get one and help women find another alternative. Stop wasting time trying to outlaw it. Back alley abortions are not good public policy

    Fundies are against abortion, fine. Dick move, but whatever, be that way. But then they're against contraception as well. Dafuq?

    And fuck that kid once it's born, because any WIC program money is a fucking entitlement that THEY won't pay for. And defund the Planned Parenthood that might have educated the parents before they got knocked up to begin with.

    All because some zombie sky wizard said so (not really, but they say he wants it that way).

    I might be a retired Starcraft pro, but I don't live my life based on the culture of the Zerg swarm hivemind . Much less insist others around me do so as well.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Guns, God, and gays = true Reagan conservatism.