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My point is that there are plenty of other programs that are just as dependent (if not more) on a great coach as USC. Especially when you take into account the kind of success that USC demands. Maybe you can argue that their boosters have gone a bit soft, but not on the coaching thing.
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I'm right. I win
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Puppy?RaceBannon said:I'm right. I win
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The debate is over its settled science
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Might as well not even play the debate game.
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Disagree. Here are his defense's FEI Ratings over the years (unfortunately these only go back to 2007, but we get most of his DC career, which started in '06):dnc said:
Look at the list of jobs he's had. DC at Tennessee, Washington, USC and now Wisconsin. That's three programs anyone would be proud to have one their resume and one that we miss, dammit.HuskyJW said:
I don't know if he's a fraud.dnc said:Good gig for him. Not much spread in Integer cuntry. He might be able to parlay this into one more good DC gig before the world realizes he's a fraud.
Not a very good DC though.
I don't think his performance has merited another opportunity at a program of Wisky's caliber.
2007 Boise St: 61st
2008 Boise St: 12th
2009 Boise St: 11th
2010 Tennessee: 57th
2011 Tennessee: 32nd
2012 Washington: 37th
2013 Washington: 24th
It's worth noting that Tennessee was 18th and 23rd in 2008 and 2009 with Monte Kiffin at the helm, so Wilcox did not improve that unit. But I wouldn't say he necessarily came in and had a negative impact either, as Kiffin was a legendary DC, and they lost Eric Berry and Dan Williams in the first round of the 2010 NFL Draft before Wilcox took over. A dropoff was probably pretty predictable given those circumstances.
Of course, what's most impressive is the job he did at UW. We were 72nd and 103rd in the two years prior to Wilcox coming in, and he immediately turned our defense into one of the best in the conference. Kwiatkowski has since come in and taken our defense to another level, but I don't think that diminishes the fact that Wilcox was ultimately a success in his short two years here. USC is his only true dud of a stint, and he has absolutely earned another chance with a major program. -
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Disagree. Here are his defense's FEI Ratings over the years (unfortunately these only go back to 2007, but we get most of his DC career, which started in '06):dnc said:
Look at the list of jobs he's had. DC at Tennessee, Washington, USC and now Wisconsin. That's three programs anyone would be proud to have one their resume and one that we miss, dammit.HuskyJW said:
I don't know if he's a fraud.dnc said:Good gig for him. Not much spread in Integer cuntry. He might be able to parlay this into one more good DC gig before the world realizes he's a fraud.
Not a very good DC though.
I don't think his performance has merited another opportunity at a program of Wisky's caliber.
2007 Boise St: 61st
2008 Boise St: 12th
2009 Boise St: 11th
2010 Tennessee: 57th
2011 Tennessee: 32nd
2012 Washington: 37th
2013 Washington: 24th
It's worth noting that Tennessee was 18th and 23rd in 2008 and 2009 with Monte Kiffin at the helm, so Wilcox did not improve that unit. But I wouldn't say he necessarily came in and had a negative impact either, as Kiffin was a legendary DC, and they lost Eric Berry and Dan Williams in the first round of the 2010 NFL Draft before Wilcox took over. A dropoff was probably pretty predictable given those circumstances.
Of course, what's most impressive is the job he did at UW. We were 72nd and 103rd in the two years prior to Wilcox coming in, and he immediately turned our defense into one of the best in the conference. Kwiatkowski has since come in and taken our defense to another level, but I don't think that diminishes the fact that Wilcox was ultimately a success in his short two years here. USC is his only true dud of a stint, and he has absolutely earned another chance with a major program.
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Wilcocks was great against bad teams, the curse of Husky Football. The genesis of what are you going to say when Arizona hangs 50 on him came from this. iDawg was all excited because our tough D was killing it when I asked him that question.
Spoiler alert - Arizona hung 50 on him
The guy we got now is a good defensive coach heading to greatness. It is actually a difference. Everyone has noticed it
