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  • HeretoBeatmyChestHeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295

    I would be curious how many NBA champions were blown out by 34 at home.

    There was no reason for Cleveland not to be fired up. The problem for them is Golden State is getting better. Green and Curry are both quite a bit better from last year.

    Cleveland isn't. Love is one of the biggest losers in the league. Irving gets hurt every year. Even LeBron has slipped a little. He's played a lot of years and a ton of games.

    Cleveland played its best last year in the finals without Love and Irving on the floor. Guys like Mozgov, Thompson and Delly gave the contributions they needed (defense, rebounding, toughness) that Love and Irving lack.

    In most years you need 2 stars to win a title. Irving and Love aren't even close. They arent even all stars.
    Yeah they looked like shit in game 1 with Irving. He certainly didn't go toe to toe with Curry and block his shot in the last 30 seconds.
    They won the next 2 games without Irving.

    His strong game 1 and 1 block doesn't mitigate my point.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    I would be curious how many NBA champions were blown out by 34 at home.

    There was no reason for Cleveland not to be fired up. The problem for them is Golden State is getting better. Green and Curry are both quite a bit better from last year.

    Cleveland isn't. Love is one of the biggest losers in the league. Irving gets hurt every year. Even LeBron has slipped a little. He's played a lot of years and a ton of games.

    Cleveland played its best last year in the finals without Love and Irving on the floor. Guys like Mozgov, Thompson and Delly gave the contributions they needed (defense, rebounding, toughness) that Love and Irving lack.

    In most years you need 2 stars to win a title. Irving and Love aren't even close. They arent even all stars.
    Yeah they looked like shit in game 1 with Irving. He certainly didn't go toe to toe with Curry and block his shot in the last 30 seconds.
    They won the next 2 games without Irving.

    His strong game 1 and 1 block doesn't mitigate my point.
    And then they lost 3 straight.

    This narrative is stupid. They played 0 games that mattered with Love and 1 with Irving and in that one he/they played well. How the fuck would you know they played better without them when they didn't play any games with them? It's fucking nonsense.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,956 Founders Club

    I would be curious how many NBA champions were blown out by 34 at home.

    There was no reason for Cleveland not to be fired up. The problem for them is Golden State is getting better. Green and Curry are both quite a bit better from last year.

    Cleveland isn't. Love is one of the biggest losers in the league. Irving gets hurt every year. Even LeBron has slipped a little. He's played a lot of years and a ton of games.

    Cleveland played its best last year in the finals without Love and Irving on the floor. Guys like Mozgov, Thompson and Delly gave the contributions they needed (defense, rebounding, toughness) that Love and Irving lack.

    In most years you need 2 stars to win a title. Irving and Love aren't even close. They arent even all stars.
    Yeah they looked like shit in game 1 with Irving. He certainly didn't go toe to toe with Curry and block his shot in the last 30 seconds.
    They won the next 2 games without Irving.

    His strong game 1 and 1 block doesn't mitigate my point.
    And then they lost 3 straight.

    This narrative is stupid. They played 0 games that mattered with Love and 1 with Irving and in that one he/they played well. How the fuck would you know they played better without them when they didn't play any games with them? It's fucking nonsense.
    They actually went something like 33-2 with all three healthy in the lineup last year. That's really our only sample
  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    I would be curious how many NBA champions were blown out by 34 at home.

    There was no reason for Cleveland not to be fired up. The problem for them is Golden State is getting better. Green and Curry are both quite a bit better from last year.

    Cleveland isn't. Love is one of the biggest losers in the league. Irving gets hurt every year. Even LeBron has slipped a little. He's played a lot of years and a ton of games.

    Cleveland played its best last year in the finals without Love and Irving on the floor. Guys like Mozgov, Thompson and Delly gave the contributions they needed (defense, rebounding, toughness) that Love and Irving lack.

    In most years you need 2 stars to win a title. Irving and Love aren't even close. They arent even all stars.
    Yeah they looked like shit in game 1 with Irving. He certainly didn't go toe to toe with Curry and block his shot in the last 30 seconds.
    They won the next 2 games without Irving.

    His strong game 1 and 1 block doesn't mitigate my point.
    And then they lost 3 straight.

    This narrative is stupid. They played 0 games that mattered with Love and 1 with Irving and in that one he/they played well. How the fuck would you know they played better without them when they didn't play any games with them? It's fucking nonsense.
    They actually went something like 33-2 with all three healthy in the lineup last year. That's really our only sample
    But this game doesn't matter, come on man where's the respect.
  • HeretoBeatmyChestHeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295

    I would be curious how many NBA champions were blown out by 34 at home.

    There was no reason for Cleveland not to be fired up. The problem for them is Golden State is getting better. Green and Curry are both quite a bit better from last year.

    Cleveland isn't. Love is one of the biggest losers in the league. Irving gets hurt every year. Even LeBron has slipped a little. He's played a lot of years and a ton of games.

    Cleveland played its best last year in the finals without Love and Irving on the floor. Guys like Mozgov, Thompson and Delly gave the contributions they needed (defense, rebounding, toughness) that Love and Irving lack.

    In most years you need 2 stars to win a title. Irving and Love aren't even close. They arent even all stars.
    Yeah they looked like shit in game 1 with Irving. He certainly didn't go toe to toe with Curry and block his shot in the last 30 seconds.
    They won the next 2 games without Irving.

    His strong game 1 and 1 block doesn't mitigate my point.
    And then they lost 3 straight.

    This narrative is stupid. They played 0 games that mattered with Love and 1 with Irving and in that one he/they played well. How the fuck would you know they played better without them when they didn't play any games with them? It's fucking nonsense.
    They actually went something like 33-2 with all three healthy in the lineup last year. That's really our only sample
    2-3 without them in the Finals. Then got blown the fuck out by 35 at home with all of them this season. True, GS is better now.

    You would think they'd be a lot better with Love and Irving but they aren't....at least when it comes to playing the best team in the league.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,739
    I think the theory that they're better without Love may have some merit, but the idea they're better without Kyrie is really FS.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,956 Founders Club
    It doesn't matter. The Lakers lost game 1 of the finals by more than that margin one year and won the series.

    Great in season natty as always
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,956 Founders Club

    I would be curious how many NBA champions were blown out by 34 at home.

    There was no reason for Cleveland not to be fired up. The problem for them is Golden State is getting better. Green and Curry are both quite a bit better from last year.

    Cleveland isn't. Love is one of the biggest losers in the league. Irving gets hurt every year. Even LeBron has slipped a little. He's played a lot of years and a ton of games.

    Cleveland played its best last year in the finals without Love and Irving on the floor. Guys like Mozgov, Thompson and Delly gave the contributions they needed (defense, rebounding, toughness) that Love and Irving lack.

    In most years you need 2 stars to win a title. Irving and Love aren't even close. They arent even all stars.
    Yeah they looked like shit in game 1 with Irving. He certainly didn't go toe to toe with Curry and block his shot in the last 30 seconds.
    They won the next 2 games without Irving.

    His strong game 1 and 1 block doesn't mitigate my point.
    And then they lost 3 straight.

    This narrative is stupid. They played 0 games that mattered with Love and 1 with Irving and in that one he/they played well. How the fuck would you know they played better without them when they didn't play any games with them? It's fucking nonsense.
    They actually went something like 33-2 with all three healthy in the lineup last year. That's really our only sample
    But this game doesn't matter, come on man where's the respect.
    That's two different arguments and some all pro pressing
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    I would be curious how many NBA champions were blown out by 34 at home.

    There was no reason for Cleveland not to be fired up. The problem for them is Golden State is getting better. Green and Curry are both quite a bit better from last year.

    Cleveland isn't. Love is one of the biggest losers in the league. Irving gets hurt every year. Even LeBron has slipped a little. He's played a lot of years and a ton of games.

    Cleveland played its best last year in the finals without Love and Irving on the floor. Guys like Mozgov, Thompson and Delly gave the contributions they needed (defense, rebounding, toughness) that Love and Irving lack.

    In most years you need 2 stars to win a title. Irving and Love aren't even close. They arent even all stars.
    Yeah they looked like shit in game 1 with Irving. He certainly didn't go toe to toe with Curry and block his shot in the last 30 seconds.
    They won the next 2 games without Irving.

    His strong game 1 and 1 block doesn't mitigate my point.
    And then they lost 3 straight.

    This narrative is stupid. They played 0 games that mattered with Love and 1 with Irving and in that one he/they played well. How the fuck would you know they played better without them when they didn't play any games with them? It's fucking nonsense.
    They actually went something like 33-2 with all three healthy in the lineup last year. That's really our only sample
    But this game doesn't matter, come on man where's the respect.
    Race beats the drum of regular season means nothing harder than anyone. But if you're going to start talking about them being better without Love and Irving the regular season sample is basically all we have. That's why its fucking stupid to say the Finals showed they're better without them.
  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    I would be curious how many NBA champions were blown out by 34 at home.

    There was no reason for Cleveland not to be fired up. The problem for them is Golden State is getting better. Green and Curry are both quite a bit better from last year.

    Cleveland isn't. Love is one of the biggest losers in the league. Irving gets hurt every year. Even LeBron has slipped a little. He's played a lot of years and a ton of games.

    Cleveland played its best last year in the finals without Love and Irving on the floor. Guys like Mozgov, Thompson and Delly gave the contributions they needed (defense, rebounding, toughness) that Love and Irving lack.

    In most years you need 2 stars to win a title. Irving and Love aren't even close. They arent even all stars.
    Yeah they looked like shit in game 1 with Irving. He certainly didn't go toe to toe with Curry and block his shot in the last 30 seconds.
    They won the next 2 games without Irving.

    His strong game 1 and 1 block doesn't mitigate my point.
    And then they lost 3 straight.

    This narrative is stupid. They played 0 games that mattered with Love and 1 with Irving and in that one he/they played well. How the fuck would you know they played better without them when they didn't play any games with them? It's fucking nonsense.
    They actually went something like 33-2 with all three healthy in the lineup last year. That's really our only sample
    But this game doesn't matter, come on man where's the respect.
    Race beats the drum of regular season means nothing harder than anyone. But if you're going to start talking about them being better without Love and Irving the regular season sample is basically all we have. That's why its fucking stupid to say the Finals showed they're better without them.
    I was not one of the idiots that said that they're better without Love and Irving. Maybe better without Love, maybe. I was just pointing out that it's dumb to minimize the plungering the other night in light of what they did last year at full strength.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,956 Founders Club

    I would be curious how many NBA champions were blown out by 34 at home.

    There was no reason for Cleveland not to be fired up. The problem for them is Golden State is getting better. Green and Curry are both quite a bit better from last year.

    Cleveland isn't. Love is one of the biggest losers in the league. Irving gets hurt every year. Even LeBron has slipped a little. He's played a lot of years and a ton of games.

    Cleveland played its best last year in the finals without Love and Irving on the floor. Guys like Mozgov, Thompson and Delly gave the contributions they needed (defense, rebounding, toughness) that Love and Irving lack.

    In most years you need 2 stars to win a title. Irving and Love aren't even close. They arent even all stars.
    Yeah they looked like shit in game 1 with Irving. He certainly didn't go toe to toe with Curry and block his shot in the last 30 seconds.
    They won the next 2 games without Irving.

    His strong game 1 and 1 block doesn't mitigate my point.
    And then they lost 3 straight.

    This narrative is stupid. They played 0 games that mattered with Love and 1 with Irving and in that one he/they played well. How the fuck would you know they played better without them when they didn't play any games with them? It's fucking nonsense.
    They actually went something like 33-2 with all three healthy in the lineup last year. That's really our only sample
    But this game doesn't matter, come on man where's the respect.
    Race beats the drum of regular season means nothing harder than anyone. But if you're going to start talking about them being better without Love and Irving the regular season sample is basically all we have. That's why its fucking stupid to say the Finals showed they're better without them.
    I was not one of the idiots that said that they're better without Love and Irving. Maybe better without Love, maybe. I was just pointing out that it's dumb to minimize the plungering the other night in light of what they did last year at full strength.
    Disagree

    APAG has it dialed in

    As always
  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    We'll see. Lipo, as always.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,591 Founders Club
    There's not much to play out here. LeBron isn't who we thought he was and Golden State has taken the league to the next level.

    Just look at how good the Spurs are, arguably Popp's greatest team, and they aren't favored to make it out of the west. GS is at legendary status right now.

    LeBron needs to go full Lebron or gtfo. His window is damn near closed.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,956 Founders Club
    Doogles said:

    There's not much to play out here. LeBron isn't who we thought he was and Golden State has taken the league to the next level.

    Just look at how good the Spurs are, arguably Popp's greatest team, and they aren't favored to make it out of the west. GS is at legendary status right now.

    LeBron needs to go full Lebron or gtfo. His window is damn near closed.

    Puppy was the first to say Browning would start

    I actually hear a lot of "experts" picking SA to win the west
  • hahahahahaha fuck the nba hahahahaha fuck okc hahahahaha fuck david stern haahahahaha did i mention fuck the nba? hahaha
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    hahahahahaha fuck the nba hahahahaha fuck okc hahahahaha fuck david stern haahahahaha did i mention fuck the nba? hahaha

    Careful, it's friday.
  • hahahahahaha fuck the nba hahahahaha fuck okc hahahahaha fuck david stern haahahahaha did i mention fuck the nba? hahaha

    Careful, it's friday.
    what is this judgement day?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,956 Founders Club
    No worries. Blatt was the Friday sacrifice. I guess Cleveland takes regular season games seriously
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