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Syrian Refugee's arrested in America
jecornel
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dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322649/The-enemy-Nearly-SEVENTY-arrested-America-ISIS-plots-include-refugees-given-safe-haven-turned-terror.html
But I thought it was insensitive not to let them in? Might as well let the whole country in.
But I thought it was insensitive not to let them in? Might as well let the whole country in.
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I don't really think it's about sensitivity. It's about who we are as a country.
If you want to be a coward and not help people that's fine. In fact it falls in line with how a lot people think these days. Police kill people before their lives are put in danger. So if that's who you are ok.
Personally this is a lesson I learned after 9/11 with the Patriot Act. My morals and values, what's right and what's wrong, don't change because I'm scared.
Maybe some these refugees are terrorists or become terrorists. Maybe they kill people and maybe I'm one of those people. I would rather die doing what's right then live as a cowering pussy bullied by a bunch of goat fuckers halfway around the world.
These people need help. We can help them. We should help them. -
I see your point to a degree. Politicians, specifically the president as this is who this issue is pertaining to, are not elected to be humanitarians, they were elected to protect the people they serve.allpurpleallgold said:I don't really think it's about sensitivity. It's about who we are as a country.
If you want to be a coward and not help people that's fine. In fact it falls in line with how a lot people think these days. Police kill people before their lives are put in danger. So if that's who you are ok.
Personally this is a lesson I learned after 9/11 with the Patriot Act. My morals and values, what's right and what's wrong, don't change because I'm scared.
Maybe some these refugees are terrorists or become terrorists. Maybe they kill people and maybe I'm one of those people. I would rather die doing what's right then live as a cowering pussy bullied by a bunch of goat fuckers halfway around the world.
These people need help. We can help them. We should help them.
If in the 100,000 (or whatever it will be) refugees they take, 50 end up being terrorists and commit 2-3 acts of terror that end up killing 200-250 combined Americans, is it worth it? It's a really coldhearted way of looking at things, but it's a risk you need to consider
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Pretty simple. If you can't vet immigrants/refugees, they don't get in. Our social systems, particularly schools and health care, can't afford to open the floodgates any more than they already are.
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the 200 to 250 is a generous estimation, but you have to consider the worst case scenario (which is probably even worse than that)
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I'm just curious. When I Google this, this is the only website reporting this story. A British website. Along with couple conservative sites referencing this story.
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We should have the entire world move here and surround them with our kind heartedness, food, shelter, cell phones, cable tv, education, healthcare, social security disability, social security retirement but NO FREE CARS!!! ... but perhaps a free Orca card or free Uber codes...something like that.
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There were humanitarian reasons to invade Iraq. There were humanitarian reasons to not pull out the troops in 2012 in order to get re elected. There were humanitarian reasons to back the Green Revolution in Iran. There were humanitarian reasons to not let Libya and Syria turn to shit.
But now we are told that we need to be all in on a group of refugees that supposedly need two years of vetting before they come here. This has become the vital issue of the day for Obama.
It is clearly cynical and political and just another opportunity for the divider in chief to go after the only enemy he really cares about - Republicans.
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Two years is too long.
Can't we just move them all to Kent now? ... make them watch a do's and don'ts video and require them to phone in occasionally till there* cleared -
I am not so worried about the terrorist part. Almost all of the refugees (even though many of the people entering Europe are not from Syria, but that is besides the point) just want to improve their lives. But Europe, especially, must worry about whether they can assimilate such a large influx of population. Why cultural hegemony is not a legitimate reason to limit immigration I am not sure (probably because people think it is racist or feel guilt that they are in a well-off country).
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Fuck all this. We can't take care of the people already in this country. Why do we need more? How are we paying for this? We have 50,000 homeless vets that get fucked over daily. But hey, let's give others all the benefits vets deserve and continue to fuck vets over. What kind of message is that?
