I'm a 'feet-to-the-fire' motherfucker, but this is an odd idea. Who the fuck are they going to get?
The only guy they could possibly get who is clearly better is Fisher. If they don't get Jimbo (and that's not a lock even if they think he is; which he isn't), they are making a massive mistake.
Look, I understand he can do better than he's doing, but you don't fucking win the national title every fucking year. If you put him under a bunch of fire to get a better offensive mind in there, you will be fine.
We always say, 'it's the HC, stupid.' In this case, he's proven that he's a really fucking good HC.
If I were Miami, I would be fucking drooling all over myself trying to line up Miles immediately. Fuck, I would shove Pete out the door for him in a second.
I think it will work out for LSU, but I agree that Miles would be a great hire at another school. I don't blame LSU at all for firing him though. I can see how it's a firing Don James in the late 80's type of scenario, but the same problems have been problems for long enough that a change isn't crazy. Not to mention the team quit as soon as they lost to Alabama this year.
I think it will work out for LSU, but I agree that Miles would be a great hire at another school. I don't blame LSU at all for firing him though. I can see how it's a firing Don James in the late 80's type of scenario, but the same problems have been problems for long enough that a change isn't crazy. Not to mention the team quit as soon as they lost to Alabama this year.
They better get it fucking right though. Leu sucked for generations before saban. Les isn't Saban. But if they are not hiring a Saban type this is pretty risky. He has kept them a high level. I like the idea of turning up the heat and I bet they improve over the next few years but this doesn't seem to be playing out good for les. Some big swinging dick boosters must have someone in mind. I have no idea who it would be. Fisher would be crazy to leave fsu.
I think it will work out for LSU, but I agree that Miles would be a great hire at another school. I don't blame LSU at all for firing him though. I can see how it's a firing Don James in the late 80's type of scenario, but the same problems have been problems for long enough that a change isn't crazy. Not to mention the team quit as soon as they lost to Alabama this year.
They better get it fucking right though. Leu sucked for generations before saban. Les isn't Saban. But if they are not hiring a Saban type this is pretty risky. He has kept them a high level. I like the idea of turning up the heat and I bet they improve over the next few years but this doesn't seem to be playing out good for les. Some big swinging dick boosters must have someone in mind. I have no idea who it would be. Fisher would be crazy to leave fsu.
Therein lies the rub. They have money and are among the top programs in the nation's most elite college football conference. They will attract talented coaches and will be alright if they choose wisely, but that is easier said than done. Oklahoma, Nebraska, USC, Notre Dame, and Alabama, all top programs that have struggled to find the right coach at times. That said, expectations at LSU are sky high post Saban. 8-5 doesn't cut it, they are prepared to cycle through coaches until they get the right guy in there. Who knows, maybe Chip Kelly (75k) ends up there after Philly fires his (75k) ass.
Miles recruits his ass off ... by all accounts he does a lot of things well and says all the right things about him and the kids in his program. He's not against putting punishments in place for players that fuck around and I truly do think that he's the kind of coach that will do the right thing for the kid/team ahead of what the cost might be in the W/L column.
As a coach, he's definitely above average. I'm not sure what some of the issues are with his coordinators but that's probably been the biggest thing to hold LSU back in some of the more recent years (particularly on offense).
The hate for Saban and Bama is huge at LSU ... it's pretty much all they think about outside of who is this week's "Tiger Bait." If Saban wasn't running off 11+ win seasons and beating LSU each year, I don't think you are hearing as much noise about Les. But Saban is so you are.
It's interesting to me that Fisher is the name talked about as Miles's possible replacement because if he's shown anything in the last few years it is that his inmates kind of run the asylum. It fits the narrative here because the only reason you'd fire Les Miles is because he's not winning the 1-2 games a year that you want him to win. LSU is essentially selling their soul to try to get someone in that can and will.
I'd imagine that LSU supporters are also looking at Les being 62 or whatever he is and saying that he doesn't have much longer anyway so better to do this sooner than later. But it's a slippery slope that they are navigating with potentially dangerous consequences.
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Bad news from a UW standpoint is that it's very possible that Coach O may head back to USC
And Chip Kelley goes to USC. No way would he go to the SEC.
I'm not surprised you're not surprised.
http://fanbuzz.rare.us/story/les-miles-to-hold-special-meeting-with-players-and-it-doesnt-bode-well/
The only guy they could possibly get who is clearly better is Fisher. If they don't get Jimbo (and that's not a lock even if they think he is; which he isn't), they are making a massive mistake.
Look, I understand he can do better than he's doing, but you don't fucking win the national title every fucking year. If you put him under a bunch of fire to get a better offensive mind in there, you will be fine.
We always say, 'it's the HC, stupid.' In this case, he's proven that he's a really fucking good HC.
If I were Miami, I would be fucking drooling all over myself trying to line up Miles immediately. Fuck, I would shove Pete out the door for him in a second.
2 National Title Game Appearances
1 National Title Game Win
1 Sugar Bowl win
2 SEC Titles
8-5 is absolute worst season
Amazing that he'd get fired unless there is more going on behind the scenes.
Some big swinging dick boosters must have someone in mind. I have no idea who it would be. Fisher would be crazy to leave fsu.
Nothing is guaranteed, especially regime change.
Finding a new coach is hard.
Miles recruits his ass off ... by all accounts he does a lot of things well and says all the right things about him and the kids in his program. He's not against putting punishments in place for players that fuck around and I truly do think that he's the kind of coach that will do the right thing for the kid/team ahead of what the cost might be in the W/L column.
As a coach, he's definitely above average. I'm not sure what some of the issues are with his coordinators but that's probably been the biggest thing to hold LSU back in some of the more recent years (particularly on offense).
The hate for Saban and Bama is huge at LSU ... it's pretty much all they think about outside of who is this week's "Tiger Bait." If Saban wasn't running off 11+ win seasons and beating LSU each year, I don't think you are hearing as much noise about Les. But Saban is so you are.
It's interesting to me that Fisher is the name talked about as Miles's possible replacement because if he's shown anything in the last few years it is that his inmates kind of run the asylum. It fits the narrative here because the only reason you'd fire Les Miles is because he's not winning the 1-2 games a year that you want him to win. LSU is essentially selling their soul to try to get someone in that can and will.
I'd imagine that LSU supporters are also looking at Les being 62 or whatever he is and saying that he doesn't have much longer anyway so better to do this sooner than later. But it's a slippery slope that they are navigating with potentially dangerous consequences.