Why does the poor south vote conservative?
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Liberals help the poor. Everybody says so.
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Liberals care about the poor. Some of our efforts to help them may be misguided but the effort is there. I would not say that about conservatives.
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I think Social Security is a terribly flawed system. I have paid into that system my entire working life, despite voting against it and other entitlement programs. If by some random chance I get disabled beyond my ability to work and Social Security still has money to payout, I'll certainly take the benefits that I've spent years paying for. If that makes me a hypocrite oh well.
In the same way most of the people protesting the po-lice these days will almost certainly end up receiving help (directly or indirectly) from the popos at some point in the future doesn't make them hypocrites. Receiving benefit from a flawed system doesn't mean you have to endorse said flawed system. -
I was with you in the 1st paragraph. Although a flawed system, if you need it social security, by all means, use it. That's why it there. If you don't need it, support those who do need it. I'm with ya.dnc said:I think Social Security is a terribly flawed system. I have paid into that system my entire working life, despite voting against it and other entitlement programs. If by some random chance I get disabled beyond my ability to work and Social Security still has money to payout, I'll certainly take the benefits that I've spent years paying for. If that makes me a hypocrite oh well.
In the same way most of the people protesting the po-lice these days will almost certainly end up receiving help (directly or indirectly) from the popos at some point in the future doesn't make them hypocrites. Receiving benefit from a flawed system doesn't mean you have to endorse said flawed system.
The 2nd paragraph, not so much. It seems to me that the only people who have problems with the police are those who break the law. Law abiding citizens have no problem with law enforcement. Exactly how is it a flawed system? -
This guy.HuskyInAZ said:
I was with you in the 1st paragraph. Although a flawed system, if you need it social security, by all means, use it. That's why it there. If you don't need it, support those who do need it. I'm with ya.dnc said:I think Social Security is a terribly flawed system. I have paid into that system my entire working life, despite voting against it and other entitlement programs. If by some random chance I get disabled beyond my ability to work and Social Security still has money to payout, I'll certainly take the benefits that I've spent years paying for. If that makes me a hypocrite oh well.
In the same way most of the people protesting the po-lice these days will almost certainly end up receiving help (directly or indirectly) from the popos at some point in the future doesn't make them hypocrites. Receiving benefit from a flawed system doesn't mean you have to endorse said flawed system.
The 2nd paragraph, not so much. It seems to me that the only people who have problems with the police are those who break the law. Law abiding citizens have no problem with law enforcement. Exactly how is it a flawed system? -
I was at a food bank fundraiser breakfast this morning, and I actually thought about this very thing.allpurpleallgold said:Liberals care about the poor. Some of our efforts to help them may be misguided but the effort is there. I would not say that about conservatives.
The liberals are the ones who are thought of as the ones that help the poor, yet the venue that donated their space and time to host the event was a church. And the vast majority of the 500 or so folks there to donate to the food bank were old time right wingers from the neighborhood.
Weird, I didn't see many young left wing hipsters there anywhere. -
get right the fuck outta here with this shit.HuskyInAZ said:
The 2nd paragraph, not so much. It seems to me that the only people who have problems with the police are those who break the law. Law abiding citizens have no problem with law enforcement. Exactly how is it a flawed system?dnc said:I think Social Security is a terribly flawed system. I have paid into that system my entire working life, despite voting against it and other entitlement programs. If by some random chance I get disabled beyond my ability to work and Social Security still has money to payout, I'll certainly take the benefits that I've spent years paying for. If that makes me a hypocrite oh well.
In the same way most of the people protesting the po-lice these days will almost certainly end up receiving help (directly or indirectly) from the popos at some point in the future doesn't make them hypocrites. Receiving benefit from a flawed system doesn't mean you have to endorse said flawed system.
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our?allpurpleallgold said:Liberals care about the poor. Some of our efforts to help them may be misguided but the effort is there. I would not say that about conservatives.
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You don't get credit when you're working an angle. When it's to impress God or for tax purposes or to convert then you are not giving to charity. You are providing something with an expectation of getting something in return. That's why they have a problem with it being done with tax dollars. Not because they don't get to choose to give but because they don't get anything out of it.Alexis said:
I was at a food bank fundraiser breakfast this morning, and I actually thought about this very thing.allpurpleallgold said:Liberals care about the poor. Some of our efforts to help them may be misguided but the effort is there. I would not say that about conservatives.
The liberals are the ones who are thought of as the ones that help the poor, yet the venue that donated their space and time to host the event was a church. And the vast majority of the 500 or so folks there to donate to the food bank were old time right wingers from the neighborhood.
Weird, I didn't see many young left wing hipsters there anywhere. -
You paid into it. I wouldn't call you a hypocrite. Calling "them" the "takers" while receiving food stamps is not the same thing.dnc said:I think Social Security is a terribly flawed system. I have paid into that system my entire working life, despite voting against it and other entitlement programs. If by some random chance I get disabled beyond my ability to work and Social Security still has money to payout, I'll certainly take the benefits that I've spent years paying for. If that makes me a hypocrite oh well.
In the same way most of the people protesting the po-lice these days will almost certainly end up receiving help (directly or indirectly) from the popos at some point in the future doesn't make them hypocrites. Receiving benefit from a flawed system doesn't mean you have to endorse said flawed system.
