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Washington has become one big hypothesis

The hypothesis was ... hire Tyrone Willingham ... he'll win the right way, putting emphasis on education and taking it off the scoreboard!

The next hypothesis was ... hire a hot young OC ... he'll turn Lockner into the QB we all want him to be. Washington will then become the offensive mecca of the college universe.

The last hypothesis is Chris Peterman. He wants to validate his college studies where he was told winning is a "system" and all the parts have to be in place in order for that to happen.

Fuck him. Fuck him straight to hell.

How in the god damn fuck does a division one football team have three highly recruited QB's and two can't throw the ball further than 4 yards ... and the third can't hit the broadside of a fucking barn. I will also mention the third has been in the system now for three fucking years.

It then takes him 5 fucking games to realize the 190 lb (I learned that last night) running back is the best player on his fucking offensive roster ... and he still refuses to run him every play, even when doing so yields touchdowns.

I look at the team and realize it is populated with freshman ... but mother fucker, Rosen is doing well at UCLA ...

Peterman is in over his head. And because we (huh) created a hypothesis that a male politician who gives head, not an actual sports guy, is the best choice to lead a major sports department.

We have an offensive coordinator who is actually an intern and it is becoming apparent the players are about to or have already quit on the coach. I point to exhibit A where the kids played like their hair was on fire to beat Sark ... Mickens looked like a fuckin second coming of Jerry Rice. And the defense played lights fucking out ... the next week ... Oregon ho hum ... we lost ... time to go grab ass and laugh with my homies in green.

Fuck Chris Peterman ... If I meet him I am going to grab a football helmet, put it on the fucking ground and piss on it.

My hypothesis is the fucker would start crying because his fucking system would have been pissed on.
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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,563 Founders Club
    "And because we (huh) created a hypothesis that a male politician who gives head, not an actual sports guy, is the best choice to lead a major sports department."


    lol
  • godawgstgodawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,531 Founders Club
    topdawgnc said:

    The hypothesis was ... hire Tyrone Willingham ... he'll win the right way, putting emphasis on education and taking it off the scoreboard!

    The next hypothesis was ... hire a hot young OC ... he'll turn Lockner into the QB we all want him to be. Washington will then become the offensive mecca of the college universe.

    The last hypothesis is Chris Peterman. He wants to validate his college studies where he was told winning is a "system" and all the parts have to be in place in order for that to happen.

    Fuck him. Fuck him straight to hell.

    How in the god damn fuck does a division one football team have three highly recruited QB's and two can't throw the ball further than 4 yards ... and the third can't hit the broadside of a fucking barn. I will also mention the third has been in the system now for three fucking years.

    It then takes him 5 fucking games to realize the 190 lb (I learned that last night) running back is the best player on his fucking offensive roster ... and he still refuses to run him every play, even when doing so yields touchdowns.

    I look at the team and realize it is populated with freshman ... but mother fucker, Rosen is doing well at UCLA ...

    Peterman is in over his head. And because we (huh) created a hypothesis that a male politician who gives head, not an actual sports guy, is the best choice to lead a major sports department.

    We have an offensive coordinator who is actually an intern and it is becoming apparent the players are about to or have already quit on the coach. I point to exhibit A where the kids played like their hair was on fire to beat Sark ... Mickens looked like a fuckin second coming of Jerry Rice. And the defense played lights fucking out ... the next week ... Oregon ho hum ... we lost ... time to go grab ass and laugh with my homies in green.

    Fuck Chris Peterman ... If I meet him I am going to grab a football helmet, put it on the fucking ground and piss on it.

    My hypothesis is the fucker would start crying because his fucking system would have been pissed on.


    Fuck Chris Peterman ... If I meet him I am going to grab a football helmet, put it on the fucking ground and piss on it.

    My hypothesis is the fucker would start crying because his fucking system would have been pissed on

    That was first LOL moment for me this am. Thanks
  • TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,823
    topdawgnc said:

    ...I look at the team and realize it is populated with freshman ... but mother fucker, Rosen is doing well at UCLA...

    I laffed.
  • HeretoBeatmyChestHeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Rosen is doing well at UCLA? Before the last game his adjusted QBR was a few points better than Brownings.

    Rosen is playing behind a good experienced OL, something Browning does not have. He has two senior WR's, one of which had 955 yards last year and was HM all conference. Duarte, their JR TE was HM all conference last year. He has 489 yards and 6 TD's so far this year. Paul Perkins led the league in rushing last year.

    Even if you call the RB's a wash, Rosen is operating with a much better, experienced OL and much stronger receiving group. Before his last game he was only a tiny bit better as per QBR.
  • GladstoneGladstone Member Posts: 16,419

    Rosen is doing well at UCLA? Before the last game his adjusted QBR was a few points better than Brownings.

    Rosen is playing behind a good experienced OL, something Browning does not have. He has two senior WR's, one of which had 955 yards last year and was HM all conference. Duarte, their JR TE was HM all conference last year. He has 489 yards and 6 TD's so far this year. Paul Perkins led the league in rushing last year.

    Even if you call the RB's a wash, Rosen is operating with a much better, experienced OL and much stronger receiving group. Before his last game he was only a tiny bit better as per QBR.

    He has a head coach.
  • HeretoBeatmyChestHeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Gladstone said:

    Rosen is doing well at UCLA? Before the last game his adjusted QBR was a few points better than Brownings.

    Rosen is playing behind a good experienced OL, something Browning does not have. He has two senior WR's, one of which had 955 yards last year and was HM all conference. Duarte, their JR TE was HM all conference last year. He has 489 yards and 6 TD's so far this year. Paul Perkins led the league in rushing last year.

    Even if you call the RB's a wash, Rosen is operating with a much better, experienced OL and much stronger receiving group. Before his last game he was only a tiny bit better as per QBR.

    He has a head coach.
    So Rosen's slightly better QBR is the result of coaching and not an experienced and superior OL and group of receivers?

    There are certain spots to blame Pete but this is not one of them.
  • PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,145 Founders Club
    Most ignorant post ever laid down in this shitpit. Take a bow Houston, then stay there while Freemont puts a thorough buttfuckin to you . This is typical dawgman post-loss panic language, with zero understanding of the big picture. Pete has a good football team a brewin. Wait it out cunt, I said 3-5 years.
  • MisterEmMisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    edited October 2015

    Gladstone said:

    Rosen is doing well at UCLA? Before the last game his adjusted QBR was a few points better than Brownings.

    Rosen is playing behind a good experienced OL, something Browning does not have. He has two senior WR's, one of which had 955 yards last year and was HM all conference. Duarte, their JR TE was HM all conference last year. He has 489 yards and 6 TD's so far this year. Paul Perkins led the league in rushing last year.

    Even if you call the RB's a wash, Rosen is operating with a much better, experienced OL and much stronger receiving group. Before his last game he was only a tiny bit better as per QBR.

    He has a head coach.
    So Rosen's slightly better QBR is the result of coaching
    Yes. The offensive coaching staff, in general, plays to the team's strengths.....as opposed to the Random Play Generator

    EDIT: Bring on the we're young.
  • PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,145 Founders Club
    MisterEm said:

    Gladstone said:

    Rosen is doing well at UCLA? Before the last game his adjusted QBR was a few points better than Brownings.

    Rosen is playing behind a good experienced OL, something Browning does not have. He has two senior WR's, one of which had 955 yards last year and was HM all conference. Duarte, their JR TE was HM all conference last year. He has 489 yards and 6 TD's so far this year. Paul Perkins led the league in rushing last year.

    Even if you call the RB's a wash, Rosen is operating with a much better, experienced OL and much stronger receiving group. Before his last game he was only a tiny bit better as per QBR.

    He has a head coach.
    So Rosen's slightly better QBR is the result of coaching
    Yes. The offensive coaching staff, in general, plays to the team's strengths.....as opposed to the Random Play Generator

    EDIT: Bring on the we're young.
    Most ignorant post ever laid down in this shitpit. Take a bow Houston, then stay there while Freemont puts a thorough buttfuckin to you . This is typical dawgman post-loss panic language, with zero understanding of the big picture. Pete has a good football team a brewin. Wait it out cunt, I said 3-5 years.
  • topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    Rosen is doing well at UCLA? Before the last game his adjusted QBR was a few points better than Brownings.

    Rosen is playing behind a good experienced OL, something Browning does not have. He has two senior WR's, one of which had 955 yards last year and was HM all conference. Duarte, their JR TE was HM all conference last year. He has 489 yards and 6 TD's so far this year. Paul Perkins led the league in rushing last year.

    Even if you call the RB's a wash, Rosen is operating with a much better, experienced OL and much stronger receiving group. Before his last game he was only a tiny bit better as per QBR.

    I don't dispute he has a better OL, even though for past 10 years we've been hearing the OL will be UW's strength. And the fucking OL looks pretty fucking decent when they are allowed to get into a groove and start plowing for Gaskin.

    My point is this ...

    Rosen is being cut loose and has risen to the challenge. He doesn't short throw receivers, and he doesn't shit his pants.

    We, the fans, are being held hostage to a fucking hypothesis. Any coach who wanted to win with this team could. No reason this team isn't 6-1.

    Jesus Christ, you can't tell me Lindquist can't fucking come in to the game and be productive as a starter.

    The problem is Peterman wants to burn it down and build it his way ... and it is appearing his way is a big, steaming, pile of shit.

    Are we expected to be dealing with shit QB's every 2 years because it takes him 2 years to develop the 4* kids who are committing?

    Just like Rich Rod hasn't done shit since he lost Pat White ... what the fuck has Peterman done without Moore?
  • RaccoonHarryRaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161
    edited October 2015
    It should be obvious to anybody who actually watches college football that Rosen is WAY better than Browning. It's not even close. Browning is a weanie armed kid with a long throwing motion who, at his best in the future, can become an effective game manager. That can still be a winning combination, think Kellen Moore, but comparisons to Rosen are idiotic. He's the real deal.
  • HeretoBeatmyChestHeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    topdawgnc said:

    Rosen is doing well at UCLA? Before the last game his adjusted QBR was a few points better than Brownings.

    Rosen is playing behind a good experienced OL, something Browning does not have. He has two senior WR's, one of which had 955 yards last year and was HM all conference. Duarte, their JR TE was HM all conference last year. He has 489 yards and 6 TD's so far this year. Paul Perkins led the league in rushing last year.

    Even if you call the RB's a wash, Rosen is operating with a much better, experienced OL and much stronger receiving group. Before his last game he was only a tiny bit better as per QBR.

    I don't dispute he has a better OL, even though for past 10 years we've been hearing the OL will be UW's strength. And the fucking OL looks pretty fucking decent when they are allowed to get into a groove and start plowing for Gaskin.

    My point is this ...

    Rosen is being cut loose and has risen to the challenge. He doesn't short throw receivers, and he doesn't shit his pants.

    We, the fans, are being held hostage to a fucking hypothesis. Any coach who wanted to win with this team could. No reason this team isn't 6-1.

    Jesus Christ, you can't tell me Lindquist can't fucking come in to the game and be productive as a starter.

    The problem is Peterman wants to burn it down and build it his way ... and it is appearing his way is a big, steaming, pile of shit.

    Are we expected to be dealing with shit QB's every 2 years because it takes him 2 years to develop the 4* kids who are committing?

    Just like Rich Rod hasn't done shit since he lost Pat White ... what the fuck has Peterman done without Moore?
    A UW assistant in 2013 said if Lindquist was the QB for the 2014 team they wouldn't make a bowl. He was behind Miles the entire time Miles was on campus. Lindquist is fucking awful. Anyone who is pining for Lindquist or even bringing it up immediately loses all credibility and consideration. I can tell you that.

    Browning is a true freshman. His #s right now, both QBR and passer rating were almost exactly what Jared Goff and Matt Barkley had as true freshman. Rosen's are similar. Browning is playing with much worse guys than Rosen and Barkley did. Browning will improve and get better.

    The legit question is if he can be a good QB or just an average league QB. Next year will tell us a lot. Goff and Barkley made leaps in year two. The offense will have a lot more experience, John Ross back and a potential all-league tailback.

    The focus of criticism on Pete should be on his offense and if it will cause UW to miss out on being a contender in 2016 and 2017.

    What did he burn to the ground exactly? The only big loss for the program was String. Every other guy that left has been replaced. Miles was fucking awful last year and the offense lost two All-Americans (ASJ, Sankey). Sark's 2011 and 2012 classes were a total disaster, setting this team up for a major rebuild this season. His OL recruiting was a disaster. He literally only got one or two pac-12 quality OL in that timespan.

    Yeah, Pete sucked last year but this season is probably going to end ahead of schedule. Before the season most observers felt this would be his worst or most difficult year. If you can finish in the top 40 with one of the youngest teams in the nation (yes it is) during a major rebuilding year, then you are in position to contend in the years to follow.

    Art Briles and Mark Dantonio didn't do much until year 4. Both inherited worse programs than Pete but not by much. Both are considered top 10 coaches right now and have killed it, winning 80% of their games after their first 3 years. Some bring up Harbaugh and Michigan's turnaround. Michigan returned 17 starters and is loaded with JRs and SRs. They also had 4 straight top 10 classes. The vast majority of championship coaches really start to make their mark in year 3 or 4.

    Petersen is going to do well here and win a lot of games. However, his offense is a major problem and is threatening to hold the program back from being a top 10 team over the next few years. Its been bad for 4 years as @RoadDawg55 diagnosed. It's a major problem. But at this point, its the only problem.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,962 Swaye's Wigwam

    topdawgnc said:

    Rosen is doing well at UCLA? Before the last game his adjusted QBR was a few points better than Brownings.

    Rosen is playing behind a good experienced OL, something Browning does not have. He has two senior WR's, one of which had 955 yards last year and was HM all conference. Duarte, their JR TE was HM all conference last year. He has 489 yards and 6 TD's so far this year. Paul Perkins led the league in rushing last year.

    Even if you call the RB's a wash, Rosen is operating with a much better, experienced OL and much stronger receiving group. Before his last game he was only a tiny bit better as per QBR.

    I don't dispute he has a better OL, even though for past 10 years we've been hearing the OL will be UW's strength. And the fucking OL looks pretty fucking decent when they are allowed to get into a groove and start plowing for Gaskin.

    My point is this ...

    Rosen is being cut loose and has risen to the challenge. He doesn't short throw receivers, and he doesn't shit his pants.

    We, the fans, are being held hostage to a fucking hypothesis. Any coach who wanted to win with this team could. No reason this team isn't 6-1.

    Jesus Christ, you can't tell me Lindquist can't fucking come in to the game and be productive as a starter.

    The problem is Peterman wants to burn it down and build it his way ... and it is appearing his way is a big, steaming, pile of shit.

    Are we expected to be dealing with shit QB's every 2 years because it takes him 2 years to develop the 4* kids who are committing?

    Just like Rich Rod hasn't done shit since he lost Pat White ... what the fuck has Peterman done without Moore?
    A UW assistant in 2013 said if Lindquist was the QB for the 2014 team they wouldn't make a bowl. He was behind Miles the entire time Miles was on campus. Lindquist is fucking awful. Anyone who is pining for Lindquist or even bringing it up immediately loses all credibility and consideration. I can tell you that.

    Browning is a true freshman. His #s right now, both QBR and passer rating were almost exactly what Jared Goff and Matt Barkley had as true freshman. Rosen's are similar. Browning is playing with much worse guys than Rosen and Barkley did. Browning will improve and get better.

    The legit question is if he can be a good QB or just an average league QB. Next year will tell us a lot. Goff and Barkley made leaps in year two. The offense will have a lot more experience, John Ross back and a potential all-league tailback.

    The focus of criticism on Pete should be on his offense and if it will cause UW to miss out on being a contender in 2016 and 2017.

    What did he burn to the ground exactly? The only big loss for the program was String. Every other guy that left has been replaced. Miles was fucking awful last year and the offense lost two All-Americans (ASJ, Sankey). Sark's 2011 and 2012 classes were a total disaster, setting this team up for a major rebuild this season. His OL recruiting was a disaster. He literally only got one or two pac-12 quality OL in that timespan.

    Yeah, Pete sucked last year but this season is probably going to end ahead of schedule. Before the season most observers felt this would be his worst or most difficult year. If you can finish in the top 40 with one of the youngest teams in the nation (yes it is) during a major rebuilding year, then you are in position to contend in the years to follow.

    Art Briles and Mark Dantonio didn't do much until year 4. Both inherited worse programs than Pete but not by much. Both are considered top 10 coaches right now and have killed it, winning 80% of their games after their first 3 years. Some bring up Harbaugh and Michigan's turnaround. Michigan returned 17 starters and is loaded with JRs and SRs. They also had 4 straight top 10 classes. The vast majority of championship coaches really start to make their mark in year 3 or 4.

    Petersen is going to do well here and win a lot of games. However, his offense is a major problem and is threatening to hold the program back from being a top 10 team over the next few years. Its been bad for 4 years as @RoadDawg55 diagnosed. It's a major problem. But at this point, its the only problem.
    How dare you go against the bored narrative

    Great post
  • HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited October 2015

    topdawgnc said:

    Rosen is doing well at UCLA? Before the last game his adjusted QBR was a few points better than Brownings.

    Rosen is playing behind a good experienced OL, something Browning does not have. He has two senior WR's, one of which had 955 yards last year and was HM all conference. Duarte, their JR TE was HM all conference last year. He has 489 yards and 6 TD's so far this year. Paul Perkins led the league in rushing last year.

    Even if you call the RB's a wash, Rosen is operating with a much better, experienced OL and much stronger receiving group. Before his last game he was only a tiny bit better as per QBR.

    I don't dispute he has a better OL, even though for past 10 years we've been hearing the OL will be UW's strength. And the fucking OL looks pretty fucking decent when they are allowed to get into a groove and start plowing for Gaskin.

    My point is this ...

    Rosen is being cut loose and has risen to the challenge. He doesn't short throw receivers, and he doesn't shit his pants.

    We, the fans, are being held hostage to a fucking hypothesis. Any coach who wanted to win with this team could. No reason this team isn't 6-1.

    Jesus Christ, you can't tell me Lindquist can't fucking come in to the game and be productive as a starter.

    The problem is Peterman wants to burn it down and build it his way ... and it is appearing his way is a big, steaming, pile of shit.

    Are we expected to be dealing with shit QB's every 2 years because it takes him 2 years to develop the 4* kids who are committing?

    Just like Rich Rod hasn't done shit since he lost Pat White ... what the fuck has Peterman done without Moore?
    A UW assistant in 2013 said if Lindquist was the QB for the 2014 team they wouldn't make a bowl. He was behind Miles the entire time Miles was on campus. Lindquist is fucking awful. Anyone who is pining for Lindquist or even bringing it up immediately loses all credibility and consideration. I can tell you that.

    Browning is a true freshman. His #s right now, both QBR and passer rating were almost exactly what Jared Goff and Matt Barkley had as true freshman. Rosen's are similar. Browning is playing with much worse guys than Rosen and Barkley did. Browning will improve and get better.

    The legit question is if he can be a good QB or just an average league QB. Next year will tell us a lot. Goff and Barkley made leaps in year two. The offense will have a lot more experience, John Ross back and a potential all-league tailback.

    The focus of criticism on Pete should be on his offense and if it will cause UW to miss out on being a contender in 2016 and 2017.

    What did he burn to the ground exactly? The only big loss for the program was String. Every other guy that left has been replaced. Miles was fucking awful last year and the offense lost two All-Americans (ASJ, Sankey). Sark's 2011 and 2012 classes were a total disaster, setting this team up for a major rebuild this season. His OL recruiting was a disaster. He literally only got one or two pac-12 quality OL in that timespan.

    Yeah, Pete sucked last year but this season is probably going to end ahead of schedule. Before the season most observers felt this would be his worst or most difficult year. If you can finish in the top 40 with one of the youngest teams in the nation (yes it is) during a major rebuilding year, then you are in position to contend in the years to follow.

    Art Briles and Mark Dantonio didn't do much until year 4. Both inherited worse programs than Pete but not by much. Both are considered top 10 coaches right now and have killed it, winning 80% of their games after their first 3 years. Some bring up Harbaugh and Michigan's turnaround. Michigan returned 17 starters and is loaded with JRs and SRs. They also had 4 straight top 10 classes. The vast majority of championship coaches really start to make their mark in year 3 or 4.

    Petersen is going to do well here and win a lot of games. However, his offense is a major problem and is threatening to hold the program back from being a top 10 team over the next few years. Its been bad for 4 years as @RoadDawg55 diagnosed. It's a major problem. But at this point, its the only problem.
    I appreciate your posidawgness (I dont actually thats just what I like to tell people when Im trying to not be mean), but lets not pretend that the entire offense aside from a true freshman RB being a complete failure is just one little thing. The offense currently has the worst QB in the pac12, worst WR group in the pac12, one of the worst OL groups in the pac12, worst play calling in the pac12, worst scoring in the pac12, and I would probably add worst TE group but we dont even use them so WGAF. There is litterally one bright spot in the entire offense, a true freshman RB. Besides, we all know we will end up hating Gaskin more and more the longer he stays here, as is tradition.

    I posed this question in another thread and failed to get a response; can you name 3 players on the offensive side of the ball that have improved since last year?

    image
  • godawgstgodawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,531 Founders Club
    Houhusky said:

    topdawgnc said:

    Rosen is doing well at UCLA? Before the last game his adjusted QBR was a few points better than Brownings.

    Rosen is playing behind a good experienced OL, something Browning does not have. He has two senior WR's, one of which had 955 yards last year and was HM all conference. Duarte, their JR TE was HM all conference last year. He has 489 yards and 6 TD's so far this year. Paul Perkins led the league in rushing last year.

    Even if you call the RB's a wash, Rosen is operating with a much better, experienced OL and much stronger receiving group. Before his last game he was only a tiny bit better as per QBR.

    I don't dispute he has a better OL, even though for past 10 years we've been hearing the OL will be UW's strength. And the fucking OL looks pretty fucking decent when they are allowed to get into a groove and start plowing for Gaskin.

    My point is this ...

    Rosen is being cut loose and has risen to the challenge. He doesn't short throw receivers, and he doesn't shit his pants.

    We, the fans, are being held hostage to a fucking hypothesis. Any coach who wanted to win with this team could. No reason this team isn't 6-1.

    Jesus Christ, you can't tell me Lindquist can't fucking come in to the game and be productive as a starter.

    The problem is Peterman wants to burn it down and build it his way ... and it is appearing his way is a big, steaming, pile of shit.

    Are we expected to be dealing with shit QB's every 2 years because it takes him 2 years to develop the 4* kids who are committing?

    Just like Rich Rod hasn't done shit since he lost Pat White ... what the fuck has Peterman done without Moore?
    A UW assistant in 2013 said if Lindquist was the QB for the 2014 team they wouldn't make a bowl. He was behind Miles the entire time Miles was on campus. Lindquist is fucking awful. Anyone who is pining for Lindquist or even bringing it up immediately loses all credibility and consideration. I can tell you that.

    Browning is a true freshman. His #s right now, both QBR and passer rating were almost exactly what Jared Goff and Matt Barkley had as true freshman. Rosen's are similar. Browning is playing with much worse guys than Rosen and Barkley did. Browning will improve and get better.

    The legit question is if he can be a good QB or just an average league QB. Next year will tell us a lot. Goff and Barkley made leaps in year two. The offense will have a lot more experience, John Ross back and a potential all-league tailback.

    The focus of criticism on Pete should be on his offense and if it will cause UW to miss out on being a contender in 2016 and 2017.

    What did he burn to the ground exactly? The only big loss for the program was String. Every other guy that left has been replaced. Miles was fucking awful last year and the offense lost two All-Americans (ASJ, Sankey). Sark's 2011 and 2012 classes were a total disaster, setting this team up for a major rebuild this season. His OL recruiting was a disaster. He literally only got one or two pac-12 quality OL in that timespan.

    Yeah, Pete sucked last year but this season is probably going to end ahead of schedule. Before the season most observers felt this would be his worst or most difficult year. If you can finish in the top 40 with one of the youngest teams in the nation (yes it is) during a major rebuilding year, then you are in position to contend in the years to follow.

    Art Briles and Mark Dantonio didn't do much until year 4. Both inherited worse programs than Pete but not by much. Both are considered top 10 coaches right now and have killed it, winning 80% of their games after their first 3 years. Some bring up Harbaugh and Michigan's turnaround. Michigan returned 17 starters and is loaded with JRs and SRs. They also had 4 straight top 10 classes. The vast majority of championship coaches really start to make their mark in year 3 or 4.

    Petersen is going to do well here and win a lot of games. However, his offense is a major problem and is threatening to hold the program back from being a top 10 team over the next few years. Its been bad for 4 years as @RoadDawg55 diagnosed. It's a major problem. But at this point, its the only problem.
    I appreciate your posidawgness (I dont actually thats just what I like to tell people when Im trying to not be mean), but lets not pretend that the entire offense aside from a true freshman RB being a complete failure is just one little thing. The offense currently has the worst QB in the pac12, worst WR group in the pac12, one of the worst OL groups in the pac12, worst play calling in the pac12, worst scoring in the pac12, and I would probably add worst TE group but we dont even use them so WGAF. There is litterally one bright spot in the entire offense, a true freshman RB. Besides, we all know we will end up hating Gaskin more and more the longer he stays here, as is tradition.

    I posed this question in another thread and failed to get a response; can you name 3 players on the offensive side of the ball that have improved since last year?

    image
    Tufonga, Eldenkamp, Shelton, and Mickens drops less passes, and even gets up field once in a blue moon.

    There four!!!!! We're back baby
  • topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    topdawgnc said:

    Rosen is doing well at UCLA? Before the last game his adjusted QBR was a few points better than Brownings.

    Rosen is playing behind a good experienced OL, something Browning does not have. He has two senior WR's, one of which had 955 yards last year and was HM all conference. Duarte, their JR TE was HM all conference last year. He has 489 yards and 6 TD's so far this year. Paul Perkins led the league in rushing last year.

    Even if you call the RB's a wash, Rosen is operating with a much better, experienced OL and much stronger receiving group. Before his last game he was only a tiny bit better as per QBR.

    I don't dispute he has a better OL, even though for past 10 years we've been hearing the OL will be UW's strength. And the fucking OL looks pretty fucking decent when they are allowed to get into a groove and start plowing for Gaskin.

    My point is this ...

    Rosen is being cut loose and has risen to the challenge. He doesn't short throw receivers, and he doesn't shit his pants.

    We, the fans, are being held hostage to a fucking hypothesis. Any coach who wanted to win with this team could. No reason this team isn't 6-1.

    Jesus Christ, you can't tell me Lindquist can't fucking come in to the game and be productive as a starter.

    The problem is Peterman wants to burn it down and build it his way ... and it is appearing his way is a big, steaming, pile of shit.

    Are we expected to be dealing with shit QB's every 2 years because it takes him 2 years to develop the 4* kids who are committing?

    Just like Rich Rod hasn't done shit since he lost Pat White ... what the fuck has Peterman done without Moore?
    A UW assistant in 2013 said if Lindquist was the QB for the 2014 team they wouldn't make a bowl. He was behind Miles the entire time Miles was on campus. Lindquist is fucking awful. Anyone who is pining for Lindquist or even bringing it up immediately loses all credibility and consideration. I can tell you that.

    Browning is a true freshman. His #s right now, both QBR and passer rating were almost exactly what Jared Goff and Matt Barkley had as true freshman. Rosen's are similar. Browning is playing with much worse guys than Rosen and Barkley did. Browning will improve and get better.

    The legit question is if he can be a good QB or just an average league QB. Next year will tell us a lot. Goff and Barkley made leaps in year two. The offense will have a lot more experience, John Ross back and a potential all-league tailback.

    The focus of criticism on Pete should be on his offense and if it will cause UW to miss out on being a contender in 2016 and 2017.

    What did he burn to the ground exactly? The only big loss for the program was String. Every other guy that left has been replaced. Miles was fucking awful last year and the offense lost two All-Americans (ASJ, Sankey). Sark's 2011 and 2012 classes were a total disaster, setting this team up for a major rebuild this season. His OL recruiting was a disaster. He literally only got one or two pac-12 quality OL in that timespan.

    Yeah, Pete sucked last year but this season is probably going to end ahead of schedule. Before the season most observers felt this would be his worst or most difficult year. If you can finish in the top 40 with one of the youngest teams in the nation (yes it is) during a major rebuilding year, then you are in position to contend in the years to follow.

    Art Briles and Mark Dantonio didn't do much until year 4. Both inherited worse programs than Pete but not by much. Both are considered top 10 coaches right now and have killed it, winning 80% of their games after their first 3 years. Some bring up Harbaugh and Michigan's turnaround. Michigan returned 17 starters and is loaded with JRs and SRs. They also had 4 straight top 10 classes. The vast majority of championship coaches really start to make their mark in year 3 or 4.

    Petersen is going to do well here and win a lot of games. However, his offense is a major problem and is threatening to hold the program back from being a top 10 team over the next few years. Its been bad for 4 years as @RoadDawg55 diagnosed. It's a major problem. But at this point, its the only problem.
    I'm not pining for Lindquist, I am stating he has been on campus for 3 years ... and there is no progress in his development.

    What makes you believe Petersen is going to do well here? What has he shown you? H

    topdawgnc said:

    Rosen is doing well at UCLA? Before the last game his adjusted QBR was a few points better than Brownings.

    Rosen is playing behind a good experienced OL, something Browning does not have. He has two senior WR's, one of which had 955 yards last year and was HM all conference. Duarte, their JR TE was HM all conference last year. He has 489 yards and 6 TD's so far this year. Paul Perkins led the league in rushing last year.

    Even if you call the RB's a wash, Rosen is operating with a much better, experienced OL and much stronger receiving group. Before his last game he was only a tiny bit better as per QBR.

    I don't dispute he has a better OL, even though for past 10 years we've been hearing the OL will be UW's strength. And the fucking OL looks pretty fucking decent when they are allowed to get into a groove and start plowing for Gaskin.

    My point is this ...

    Rosen is being cut loose and has risen to the challenge. He doesn't short throw receivers, and he doesn't shit his pants.

    We, the fans, are being held hostage to a fucking hypothesis. Any coach who wanted to win with this team could. No reason this team isn't 6-1.

    Jesus Christ, you can't tell me Lindquist can't fucking come in to the game and be productive as a starter.

    The problem is Peterman wants to burn it down and build it his way ... and it is appearing his way is a big, steaming, pile of shit.

    Are we expected to be dealing with shit QB's every 2 years because it takes him 2 years to develop the 4* kids who are committing?

    Just like Rich Rod hasn't done shit since he lost Pat White ... what the fuck has Peterman done without Moore?
    A UW assistant in 2013 said if Lindquist was the QB for the 2014 team they wouldn't make a bowl. He was behind Miles the entire time Miles was on campus. Lindquist is fucking awful. Anyone who is pining for Lindquist or even bringing it up immediately loses all credibility and consideration. I can tell you that.

    Browning is a true freshman. His #s right now, both QBR and passer rating were almost exactly what Jared Goff and Matt Barkley had as true freshman. Rosen's are similar. Browning is playing with much worse guys than Rosen and Barkley did. Browning will improve and get better.

    The legit question is if he can be a good QB or just an average league QB. Next year will tell us a lot. Goff and Barkley made leaps in year two. The offense will have a lot more experience, John Ross back and a potential all-league tailback.

    The focus of criticism on Pete should be on his offense and if it will cause UW to miss out on being a contender in 2016 and 2017.

    What did he burn to the ground exactly? The only big loss for the program was String. Every other guy that left has been replaced. Miles was fucking awful last year and the offense lost two All-Americans (ASJ, Sankey). Sark's 2011 and 2012 classes were a total disaster, setting this team up for a major rebuild this season. His OL recruiting was a disaster. He literally only got one or two pac-12 quality OL in that timespan.

    Yeah, Pete sucked last year but this season is probably going to end ahead of schedule. Before the season most observers felt this would be his worst or most difficult year. If you can finish in the top 40 with one of the youngest teams in the nation (yes it is) during a major rebuilding year, then you are in position to contend in the years to follow.

    Art Briles and Mark Dantonio didn't do much until year 4. Both inherited worse programs than Pete but not by much. Both are considered top 10 coaches right now and have killed it, winning 80% of their games after their first 3 years. Some bring up Harbaugh and Michigan's turnaround. Michigan returned 17 starters and is loaded with JRs and SRs. They also had 4 straight top 10 classes. The vast majority of championship coaches really start to make their mark in year 3 or 4.

    Petersen is going to do well here and win a lot of games. However, his offense is a major problem and is threatening to hold the program back from being a top 10 team over the next few years. Its been bad for 4 years as @RoadDawg55 diagnosed. It's a major problem. But at this point, its the only problem.
    I appreciate your analysis, always have.

    The reality is there were three QB's on this roster when Petersen got here. I don't pretend to know quality young QB's and I don't TBS. What I do know is if you have shit ... you don't attempt the fewest rushes in the league. You run the fuck out of it to take the pressure off your young QB.

    But if these guys are on a D1 roster, and one is actually going back to the PAC after leaving ... something had to be there, but Petersen has to have an OKG ... so he burns it down to find his guy.

    I cut browning a lot of slack ... he is young, it is on Petersen.

    No one's eyes are lying when Mickens and Washington dance more than John Travolta, but still continue to get more touches than anyone else.

    I want to give Petersen three years before I turn to vinegar, piss, and hate ... but fuck he is making it hard. He went 92-12 and making rookie fucking mistakes here.

    He has done nothing without Moore and is a Boise State bomb until proven otherwise.
  • BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    My two cents. So flag away -
    I think Rosen is doing pretty well. He's not the reason why UCLA isn't going to have a great season, though I still think I(?) go 9-3.

    Rosens physical talent far far surpasses Browning. Always will.

    Rosen has had some BAD Frosh moments, maybe even more than Browning has. His BYU game alone is probably a gigantic QBR drag right now. But he's also making substantially more 'wow' plays than Browning.

    That may be because he has better support, but I also think he's simply better player and pretty quickly will be be one of the better QB prospects in the country.

    Another big beneficiary for Rosen - his offense is way more simple and run at tempo. I think that helps the QB, and it would really help Browning.

    QBR may disagree with my take, but I've watched both play and that just what I see.

    Rosen is doing well at UCLA? Before the last game his adjusted QBR was a few points better than Brownings.

    Rosen is playing behind a good experienced OL, something Browning does not have. He has two senior WR's, one of which had 955 yards last year and was HM all conference. Duarte, their JR TE was HM all conference last year. He has 489 yards and 6 TD's so far this year. Paul Perkins led the league in rushing last year.

    Even if you call the RB's a wash, Rosen is operating with a much better, experienced OL and much stronger receiving group. Before his last game he was only a tiny bit better as per QBR.

  • topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    My two cents. So flag away -
    I think Rosen is doing pretty well. He's not the reason why UCLA isn't going to have a great season, though I still think I(?) go 9-3.

    Rosens physical talent far far surpasses Browning. Always will.

    Rosen has had some BAD Frosh moments, maybe even more than Browning has. His BYU game alone is probably a gigantic QBR drag right now. But he's also making substantially more 'wow' plays than Browning.

    That may be because he has better support, but I also think he's simply better player and pretty quickly will be be one of the better QB prospects in the country.

    Another big beneficiary for Rosen - his offense is way more simple and run at tempo. I think that helps the QB, and it would really help Browning.

    QBR may disagree with my take, but I've watched both play and that just what I see.

    Rosen is doing well at UCLA? Before the last game his adjusted QBR was a few points better than Brownings.

    Rosen is playing behind a good experienced OL, something Browning does not have. He has two senior WR's, one of which had 955 yards last year and was HM all conference. Duarte, their JR TE was HM all conference last year. He has 489 yards and 6 TD's so far this year. Paul Perkins led the league in rushing last year.

    Even if you call the RB's a wash, Rosen is operating with a much better, experienced OL and much stronger receiving group. Before his last game he was only a tiny bit better as per QBR.

    This.
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    A hypothesis is a test of a claim
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807
    topdawgnc said:

    The hypothesis was ... hire Tyrone Willingham ... he'll win the right way, putting emphasis on education and taking it off the scoreboard!

    The next hypothesis was ... hire a hot young OC ... he'll turn Lockner into the QB we all want him to be. Washington will then become the offensive mecca of the college universe.

    The last hypothesis is Chris Peterman. He wants to validate his college studies where he was told winning is a "system" and all the parts have to be in place in order for that to happen.

    Fuck him. Fuck him straight to hell.

    How in the god damn fuck does a division one football team have three highly recruited QB's and two can't throw the ball further than 4 yards ... and the third can't hit the broadside of a fucking barn. I will also mention the third has been in the system now for three fucking years.

    It then takes him 5 fucking games to realize the 190 lb (I learned that last night) running back is the best player on his fucking offensive roster ... and he still refuses to run him every play, even when doing so yields touchdowns.

    I look at the team and realize it is populated with freshman ... but mother fucker, Rosen is doing well at UCLA ...

    Peterman is in over his head. And because we (huh) created a hypothesis that a male politician who gives head, not an actual sports guy, is the best choice to lead a major sports department.

    We have an offensive coordinator who is actually an intern and it is becoming apparent the players are about to or have already quit on the coach. I point to exhibit A where the kids played like their hair was on fire to beat Sark ... Mickens looked like a fuckin second coming of Jerry Rice. And the defense played lights fucking out ... the next week ... Oregon ho hum ... we lost ... time to go grab ass and laugh with my homies in green.

    Fuck Chris Peterman ... If I meet him I am going to grab a football helmet, put it on the fucking ground and piss on it.

    My hypothesis is the fucker would start crying because his fucking system would have been pissed on.

    Disagree. Axe tequila why.
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