What Happens When Public Sector Unions Run Amok

HFNY

It's happening in Illinois (our Empty Suit of A President's home state, no surprise). Since their pensions are so hefty and the # of their retirees bloated in numbers, they have a big unfunded gap:

news.yahoo.com/families-outraged-illinois-fails-pay-210047539.html?nf=1

RoadTrip

HFNY said:

It's happening in Illinois (our Empty Suit of A President's home state, no surprise). Since their pensions are so hefty and the # of their retirees bloated in numbers, they have a big unfunded gap:

news.yahoo.com/families-outraged-illinois-fails-pay-210047539.html?nf=1

2001400ex

Thanks Obama. Dumb fuck. You should have just funded that shit yourself.

sarktastic

2001400ex said:

Thanks Obama. Dumb fuck. You should have just funded that shit yourself.

He's going to. We're all going to pay for Chicago Union pensions. Translated: they get the new Honda... you get to help pay for it. Enjoy.

OZONE

HFNY said:

It's happening in Illinois (our Empty Suit of A President's home state, no surprise). Since their pensions are so hefty and the # of their retirees bloated in numbers, they have a big unfunded gap:

Does your dislike of public sector unions include ALL public sector unions? Or just those that aren't Cops & Firefighters?

greenblood

I have always loved the state lottery. It's like a legal form of a Ponzi scheme. Somehow Illinois can't even make that work.

greenblood

PurpleJ

I like the "idea" of unions (i.e. collective bargaining to protect workers), but they are so corrupt and poorly run that they are more trouble than they are worth. They protect the shitty workers from being fired and prevent the company from making it's own promotion/hiring decisions. The dues are usually skimmed by the union bosses' and the rest of the pot is used as a PAC for the left. When it comes time for negotiations (holding the company hostage), they feed the workers propaganda to whip them up in a frenzy against the company that is responsible for their livelihood.

I'd say we do away with them completely, but there are decent unions out there that aren't on a mission to fuck everybody else to get theres.

Then there are the public unions that are negotiating against the taxpayers. Un-fucking-real. Of course it makes sense to elect corrupt politicians that will be their bitch. It's a never ending gravy train.

HFNY

Just those that aren't cops and firefighters....they clearly add a lot of value, no?

OZONE said:

HFNY said:

It's happening in Illinois (our Empty Suit of A President's home state, no surprise). Since their pensions are so hefty and the # of their retirees bloated in numbers, they have a big unfunded gap:

Does your dislike of public sector unions include ALL public sector unions? Or just those that aren't Cops & Firefighters?

HFNY

Speaking of, a friend sent this to me and it is very applicable here because as PurpleJ said, Newark still couldn't get rid of bad teachers.

It's sad that Public Schools are set-up to benefit adults rather than the kids vs. Charter Schools that are mostly the other way around:

businessinsider.com/we-now-know-more-about-how-newark-schools-partially-squandered-mark-zuckerburgs-100-million-donation-2015-10

PurpleJ said:

I like the "idea" of unions (i.e. collective bargaining to protect workers), but they are so corrupt and poorly run that they are more trouble than they are worth. They protect the shitty workers from being fired and prevent the company from making it's own promotion/hiring decisions. The dues are usually skimmed by the union bosses' and the rest of the pot is used as a PAC for the left. When it comes time for negotiations (holding the company hostage), they feed the workers propaganda to whip them up in a frenzy against the company that is responsible for their livelihood.

I'd say we do away with them completely, but there are decent unions out there that aren't on a mission to fuck everybody else to get theres.

Then there are the public unions that are negotiating against the taxpayers. Un-fucking-real. Of course it makes sense to elect corrupt politicians that will be their bitch. It's a never ending gravy train.

DontCallMeShirley

All public unions, including (especially) police and firefighter unions are immoral and corrupt.