They won't come to our homes and take our guns. What they can do is control the flow of ammunition and new guns on the market, which in some ways they already do. They'll just take it up 35 notches. Absolutely wrong, but the left will say it's not the same thing. The purpose is the same, it just means going from point A to point B, but stopping at point C on the way, so don't twist.
Just like the Brady bill was a slippery slope to confiscation, right?
The Brady bill was the introduction of a background checking system. What does that have to do with this?
I'm also for even more strict background checks, as I've expressed on numerous occassions. The federal government is also wanting to restrict certain gun purchase from sane law abiding citizens, which I'm totally against. Don't throw Brady bill nonsense to confuse the argument. Most don't think so, but I tend to think you're better than that.
The Brady bill also limited sales of "assualt rifles" and the argument against it was the slippery slope argument. Hence why there was a 10 year time bomb on it. And it was not renewed after 10 years.
The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.
I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.
but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.
Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't
First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.
That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.
Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.
I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.
but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.
Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't
First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.
That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.
Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
I am glad I don't have to rely on you to protect my freedom.
The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.
I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.
but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.
Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't
First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.
That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.
Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
I am glad I don't have to rely on you to protect my freedom.
Serious question here. No bullshit. If the government shows up in a tank, what is any gun you own going to do to save you?
The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.
I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.
but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.
Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't
First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.
That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.
Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
They didn't confiscate all guns just the guns of the law abiding citizens stupid enough to give them up when asked. Thanks for adding nothing to the discussion.
You need to link your assertion because I've seen just the opposite. The criminals still have their guns
The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.
I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.
but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.
Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't
First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.
That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.
Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
They didn't confiscate all guns just the guns of the law abiding citizens stupid enough to give them up when asked. Thanks for adding nothing to the discussion.
You need to link your assertion because I've seen just the opposite. The criminals still have their guns
I like to argue something I know nothing about. Cause that's what I like to do.
A common misconception is that firearms are illegal in Australia and that no individual may possess them. Although it is true that Australia has restrictive firearms laws, rifles and shotguns (both of which include semi-automatics), as well as handguns, are all legal within a narrow set of criteria.
As of 2015 about 815,000 people had a gun licence in Australia and there were around 3.5 to 5.5 million Registered Firearms in Australia. Most people own and use firearms for purposes such as hunting, controlling feral animals, collecting, security work, and target shooting.
The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.
I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.
but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.
Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't
First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.
That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.
Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
Why the fuck does it matter to you what people buy with their own money?... is it simple jealousy?
The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.
I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.
but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.
Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't
First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.
That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.
Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.
I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.
but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.
Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't
First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.
That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.
Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.
I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.
but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.
Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't
First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.
That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.
Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
Why the fuck does it matter to you what people buy with their own money?... is it simple jealousy?
crime By Robert Wainwright October 29, 2005 Page Tools
Related A man of calibre Gun ownership is rising and there is no definitive evidence that a decade of restrictive firearms laws has done anything to reduce weapon-related crime, according to NSW's top criminal statistician. The latest figures show a renaissance in firearm ownership in the state - a 25 per cent increase in three years. And the head of the Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research, Don Weatherburn, said falls in armed robberies and abductions in NSW in the past few years had more to do with the heroin drought and good policing than firearms legislation. Even falls in the homicide rate, which have been steady, began long before the gun law debate provoked by the Port Arthur massacre in 1996. Nationwide, the proportion of robberies involving weapons is the same as it was in 1996, while the proportion of abductions involving weapons is higher, the latest Australian Bureau of Statistics fiures reveal. They show a mixed result in firearms-related offences since the mid-1990s. There has been a fall in firearms murders (from 32 to 13 per cent) but a rise (19 to 23 per cent) in attempted murders involving guns. Advertisement
Advertisement "I would need to see more convincing evidence than there is to be able to say that gun laws have had any effect," Dr Weatherburn said. "The best that could be said for the tougher laws is there has been no other mass killing using firearms [since Port Arthur]. "There has been a drop in firearm-related crime, particularly in homicide, but it began long before the new laws and has continued on afterwards. I don't think anyone really understands why. A lot of people assume that the tougher laws did it, but I would need more specific, convincing evidence …
The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.
I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.
but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.
Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't
First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.
That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.
Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.
I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.
but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.
Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't
First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.
That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.
Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
There has been a fall in firearms murders (from 32 to 13 per cent)
HTH
Finish the sentence, idiot. "...but a rise (19 to 23 per cent) in attempted murders involving guns."
Also: "I would need to see more convincing evidence than there is to be able to say that gun laws have had any effect," Dr Weatherburn said. "
So is your argument, that murders deceased from 32% to 13%, but attempted murders went up 19 to 23%? Because here is a question. How many of those attempted murders would have been actual murders if they had better weapons?
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That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.
Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
You need to link your assertion because I've seen just the opposite. The criminals still have their guns
A common misconception is that firearms are illegal in Australia and that no individual may possess them. Although it is true that Australia has restrictive firearms laws, rifles and shotguns (both of which include semi-automatics), as well as handguns, are all legal within a narrow set of criteria.
As of 2015 about 815,000 people had a gun licence in Australia and there were around 3.5 to 5.5 million Registered Firearms in Australia. Most people own and use firearms for purposes such as hunting, controlling feral animals, collecting, security work, and target shooting.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Australia
You see... They only bought 650k assault style weapons.
smh.com.au/news/national/gun-laws-fall-short-in-war-on-crime/2005/10/28/1130400366681.html
There has been a fall in firearms murders (from 32 to 13 per cent)
HTH
Fuck off
By Robert Wainwright
October 29, 2005
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A man of calibre
Gun ownership is rising and there is no definitive evidence that a decade of restrictive firearms laws has done anything to reduce weapon-related crime, according to NSW's top criminal statistician.
The latest figures show a renaissance in firearm ownership in the state - a 25 per cent increase in three years. And the head of the Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research, Don Weatherburn, said falls in armed robberies and abductions in NSW in the past few years had more to do with the heroin drought and good policing than firearms legislation.
Even falls in the homicide rate, which have been steady, began long before the gun law debate provoked by the Port Arthur massacre in 1996.
Nationwide, the proportion of robberies involving weapons is the same as it was in 1996, while the proportion of abductions involving weapons is higher, the latest Australian Bureau of Statistics fiures reveal. They show a mixed result in firearms-related offences since the mid-1990s. There has been a fall in firearms murders (from 32 to 13 per cent) but a rise (19 to 23 per cent) in attempted murders involving guns.
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"I would need to see more convincing evidence than there is to be able to say that gun laws have had any effect," Dr Weatherburn said. "The best that could be said for the tougher laws is there has been no other mass killing using firearms [since Port Arthur].
"There has been a drop in firearm-related crime, particularly in homicide, but it began long before the new laws and has continued on afterwards. I don't think anyone really understands why. A lot of people assume that the tougher laws did it, but I would need more specific, convincing evidence …
Fuck off
"...but a rise (19 to 23 per cent) in attempted murders involving guns."
Also:
"I would need to see more convincing evidence than there is to be able to say that gun laws have had any effect," Dr Weatherburn said. "
Just sayin.
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