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PM to Lenius

ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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Failure to get easy 1st down after catch.

Critical holding penalty on final drive.

First name is Brayden.

I never bash the kids, just wanted to point these things out.
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Mad_Son said:

    That holding penalty is all on MickensFS

    Disagree.

    Let Mickens get tackled out of bounds for -3 yards.

    Compounding one dumb ass mistake with another sounds like poor coaching to me.

    I'll be shocked if this offense overcomes a single penalty or sack all year.
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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,954
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Lenius did fine. The whole point of blocking on that play is to let the DB take himself out of the play, it's not a design for the WR to overpower the DB. The DB played himself to the outside and Lenius let him go there, Mickens has to see that and get inside of Lenius.

    When you are blocking you are technically holding EVERY single time by grabbing the chest plate. Once Mickens went outside he ruined the leverage that Lenius had and the DB went outside and it was an immediate holding call because the WR ran the blocker into it.

    If Mickens goes inside like he should the DB is fighting to get through Lenius and the hold isn't called.

    Fucking this.

    The need to go outside by Mickens on that play was so very unnecessary.

    Lenius did a solid job on the play of absorbing the DBs contact and let him run himself into the outside containment in a manner that allowed him to be walled off as soon as Mickens went by on the inside.

    That play isn't called to get 20 yards and a TD ... it's to get 5-8 yards and get out of bounds with a very low risk play. The outcome on the play was about as bad as you could get.
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  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,530
    edited September 2015
    Tequilla said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Lenius did fine. The whole point of blocking on that play is to let the DB take himself out of the play, it's not a design for the WR to overpower the DB. The DB played himself to the outside and Lenius let him go there, Mickens has to see that and get inside of Lenius.

    When you are blocking you are technically holding EVERY single time by grabbing the chest plate. Once Mickens went outside he ruined the leverage that Lenius had and the DB went outside and it was an immediate holding call because the WR ran the blocker into it.

    If Mickens goes inside like he should the DB is fighting to get through Lenius and the hold isn't called.

    Fucking this.

    The need to go outside by Mickens on that play was so very unnecessary.

    Lenius did a solid job on the play of absorbing the DBs contact and let him run himself into the outside containment in a manner that allowed him to be walled off as soon as Mickens went by on the inside.

    That play isn't called to get 20 yards and a TD ... it's to get 5-8 yards and get out of bounds with a very low risk play. The outcome on the play was about as bad as you could get.
    Did you not see that the defender nearly knocked Lenius into Mickens right when he caught it? Mickens had to take a step back to avoid contact then made the mistake of going outside. However, in reality, it wouldn't have mattered. Mickens would have picked up only about 4-5 yards if he had gone inside, because the play was busted the moment Mickens had to take the step back. The WR screens are designed to be "quick catch and go". The object is catch and get forward progress as soon as possible to beat the inside pursuit. When Mickens had to step back he immediately lost the angle, and would have gotten a marginal gain at best. He made the wrong choice but the decision wasn't as bad as the block.
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  • jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,727
    Mad_Son said:

    That holding penalty is all on MickensFS

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  • HuskyInAZHuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Lenius did fine. The whole point of blocking on that play is to let the DB take himself out of the play, it's not a design for the WR to overpower the DB. The DB played himself to the outside and Lenius let him go there, Mickens has to see that and get inside of Lenius.

    When you are blocking you are technically holding EVERY single time by grabbing the chest plate. Once Mickens went outside he ruined the leverage that Lenius had and the DB went outside and it was an immediate holding call because the WR ran the blocker into it.

    If Mickens goes inside like he should the DB is fighting to get through Lenius and the hold isn't called.

    I agreed with everything you just said.....until I watched the replay. Lenius got blown-up by a 5'9" 155lb CB. He was not pass protecting. 2 steps forward vs. 2 steps back would have made a world of difference. That's not to say Mickens would have made a play, but IMO, he didn't have much of a chance.
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  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,428
    Mickens ran the play incorrectly. If your assignment is to block a guy for another WR and that receiver runs the opposite way that he's supposed to run, it fucks you up and you have a split second to adjust. That play was mostly Mickens fault.

    Running backwards when he had a first down was completely on Lenius and that play was just as important in a game where UW lost by a matter of inches. Bierria whiffing on that sack, the Browning to Hall miss on 3rd down, Browning throwing the ball away late when he could have easily run for the first down/TD - every single one of those plays, among others, could have been the difference in the game.
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