Washington Poised For Downturn Under Petersen
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Roadie of course everything is speculation. I'm forming a long-term outlook based on UW's ability to recruit in the top 25, what he's done with recruiting so far, his background and track record at Boise, etc. Never did I say it was a foregone conclusion. I'm laying out what we should realistically expect for the next few years and for the next 10. Since the end of last year I've been saying that either year 3 or year 4 should be the inflection point for an acceleration in progress.
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Or it's just AuburnDoog style happy horseshit—WITH MAFF!!!HeretoBeatmyChest said:Roadie of course everything is speculation. I'm forming a long-term outlook based on UW's ability to recruit in the top 25, what he's done with recruiting so far, his background and track record at Boise, etc. Never did I say it was a foregone conclusion. I'm laying out what we should realistically expect for the next few years and for the next 10. Since the end of last year I've been saying that either year 3 or year 4 should be the inflection point for an acceleration in progress.
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Boise St in the 7 years prior to Pete was #34. They were #11 in his eight years.
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@HeretoBeatmyChest said it best. Pete is good. Give him some fucking time.
Taking last year—a year where he obviously ripped everything down to the studs—as being 'concerning' is a little weird. I hate Babushka as much as the next guy, but let's see what happens this and next year when they get their guys in.
These are a lot of cliches, but in this case I fear they are true because Pete actually does have a system, his kind of guys, etc. Sark had none of that shit. Sark just took over the roster and said F it. So did Neu. I don't even know what Gilby did.
This season will be a lot more diagnostic. Although @RoadDawg55 likes to point to the UCLA game as being the basis of all his fears, that game was really a 'wrong place, wrong time' for everything that was going on last year.
It's instructive to me that we played way, way better as the season went on. You can say that's because we got shitty opponents, but that's not really the case. We played like shit against everyone early and by the end of the year, we blew the doors off 2 mediocre/bad teams (OSU and WSU). If we'd played Hawai'i again at the end of the season, we'd have destroyed them.
I think Pete's record gives him the privilege of a 'half-full glass' look. If you look at last year as a half full glass, the read is pretty simple:
He told everyone to suck it and do it his way. He dicked around a lot to just see what people would do, could do, were willing to do.
By the end of the year, we were really not very bad as he got people to play more 'his way', started using the 'talent' better and minimizing the impact of Miley on shit.
The Okie State game was just another Sark-era setback where people backslid with mental intensity. We actually played well in the second half, but it was too late.
This is why people picking us to be shit because we lost players is sort of missing the point. Shaq did make big plays, true; but when we 'got good' Shaq was almost irrelevant. MP was clearly irrelevant, it was really just Danny (who was totally inconsistent before last year) and Hau'oli who had only been good against crap teams.
I should just erase this poast as it's Teqfuckinglong, but I'm hung over so I'm typing. Fuck it. -
We played well against Illinois and Cal early in the year. Cal on the road was probably the best game of the season. I don't buy that the team improved so much late in the year. They were average. Some weeks they played reasonably well, other weeks not so much. That's what average teams do.Dennis_DeYoung said:@HeretoBeatmyChest said it best. Pete is good. Give him some fucking time.
Taking last year—a year where he obviously ripped everything down to the studs—as being 'concerning' is a little weird. I hate Babushka as much as the next guy, but let's see what happens this and next year when they get their guys in.
These are a lot of cliches, but in this case I fear they are true because Pete actually does have a system, his kind of guys, etc. Sark had none of that shit. Sark just took over the roster and said F it. So did Neu. I don't even know what Gilby did.
This season will be a lot more diagnostic. Although @RoadDawg55 likes to point to the UCLA game as being the basis of all his fears, that game was really a 'wrong place, wrong time' for everything that was going on last year.
It's instructive to me that we played way, way better as the season went on. You can say that's because we got shitty opponents, but that's not really the case. We played like shit against everyone early and by the end of the year, we blew the doors off 2 mediocre/bad teams (OSU and WSU). If we'd played Hawai'i again at the end of the season, we'd have destroyed them.
I think Pete's record gives him the privilege of a 'half-full glass' look. If you look at last year as a half full glass, the read is pretty simple:
He told everyone to suck it and do it his way. He dicked around a lot to just see what people would do, could do, were willing to do.
By the end of the year, we were really not very bad as he got people to play more 'his way', started using the 'talent' better and minimizing the impact of Miley on shit.
The Okie State game was just another Sark-era setback where people backslid with mental intensity. We actually played well in the second half, but it was too late.
This is why people picking us to be shit because we lost players is sort of missing the point. Shaq did make big plays, true; but when we 'got good' Shaq was almost irrelevant. MP was clearly irrelevant, it was really just Danny (who was totally inconsistent before last year) and Hau'oli who had only been good against crap teams.
I should just erase this poast as it's Teqfuckinglong, but I'm hung over so I'm typing. Fuck it.
And more power to you for keeping the optimism in the face of last season's results. I get that it's only one season, but The assessment that Pete came in and said, "Fuck it, we are doing this my way" has some merit, but his offenses have been shit for three years. That's a trend. -
You're just bitter because Miley turned out to be a bag of shit and you thought he was great. So, you're overly cynical because you—even during games—thought we were getting decent-to-good QB play. And so you attribute a lot of us being horrible on offense to Pete, when it was really just that Miley was fucking awful and we couldn't do shit with him in games.RoadDawg55 said:
We played well against Illinois and Cal early in the year. Cal on the road was probably the best game of the season. I don't buy that the team improved so much late in the year. They were average. Some weeks they played reasonably well, other weeks not so much. That's what average teams do.Dennis_DeYoung said:@HeretoBeatmyChest said it best. Pete is good. Give him some fucking time.
Taking last year—a year where he obviously ripped everything down to the studs—as being 'concerning' is a little weird. I hate Babushka as much as the next guy, but let's see what happens this and next year when they get their guys in.
These are a lot of cliches, but in this case I fear they are true because Pete actually does have a system, his kind of guys, etc. Sark had none of that shit. Sark just took over the roster and said F it. So did Neu. I don't even know what Gilby did.
This season will be a lot more diagnostic. Although @RoadDawg55 likes to point to the UCLA game as being the basis of all his fears, that game was really a 'wrong place, wrong time' for everything that was going on last year.
It's instructive to me that we played way, way better as the season went on. You can say that's because we got shitty opponents, but that's not really the case. We played like shit against everyone early and by the end of the year, we blew the doors off 2 mediocre/bad teams (OSU and WSU). If we'd played Hawai'i again at the end of the season, we'd have destroyed them.
I think Pete's record gives him the privilege of a 'half-full glass' look. If you look at last year as a half full glass, the read is pretty simple:
He told everyone to suck it and do it his way. He dicked around a lot to just see what people would do, could do, were willing to do.
By the end of the year, we were really not very bad as he got people to play more 'his way', started using the 'talent' better and minimizing the impact of Miley on shit.
The Okie State game was just another Sark-era setback where people backslid with mental intensity. We actually played well in the second half, but it was too late.
This is why people picking us to be shit because we lost players is sort of missing the point. Shaq did make big plays, true; but when we 'got good' Shaq was almost irrelevant. MP was clearly irrelevant, it was really just Danny (who was totally inconsistent before last year) and Hau'oli who had only been good against crap teams.
I should just erase this poast as it's Teqfuckinglong, but I'm hung over so I'm typing. Fuck it.
And more power to you for keeping the optimism in the face of last season's results. I get that it's only one season, but The assessment that Pete came in and said, "Fuck it, we are doing this my way" might have some merit, but his offenses have been shit for three years.
I agree that things should get better with time, but still. There are plenty of things to be concerned about.
If you ever want to make yourself feel like a fuck wad, you should definitely go back in to game threads from last year and read your Miley dooging. It was unstoppable.
I read through one of them a couple months ago for some laughs, because obviously I was being an insane idiot, and your Miley dooging gave me a few uncontrollable cringes.
Anyway, none of that matters. But, I do think it explains your cynicism when it comes to pete and how we performed last season. -
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I've admitted many times that Miley sucked and I was wrong, but okay. I'm still waiting for Lavon Coleman to prove he shouldn't be playing at Montana. I'm not bitter about anything. We played worse when the other QB's got their chance. Miley and the QB's were a large part of the problem. 3 years of bad offense is three years Denny. We've had these threads many times already so there isn't a need to hash it out again.Dennis_DeYoung said:
You're just bitter because Miley turned out to be a bag of shit and you thought he was great. So, you're overly cynical because you—even during games—thought we were getting decent-to-good QB play.RoadDawg55 said:
We played well against Illinois and Cal early in the year. Cal on the road was probably the best game of the season. I don't buy that the team improved so much late in the year. They were average. Some weeks they played reasonably well, other weeks not so much. That's what average teams do.Dennis_DeYoung said:@HeretoBeatmyChest said it best. Pete is good. Give him some fucking time.
Taking last year—a year where he obviously ripped everything down to the studs—as being 'concerning' is a little weird. I hate Babushka as much as the next guy, but let's see what happens this and next year when they get their guys in.
These are a lot of cliches, but in this case I fear they are true because Pete actually does have a system, his kind of guys, etc. Sark had none of that shit. Sark just took over the roster and said F it. So did Neu. I don't even know what Gilby did.
This season will be a lot more diagnostic. Although @RoadDawg55 likes to point to the UCLA game as being the basis of all his fears, that game was really a 'wrong place, wrong time' for everything that was going on last year.
It's instructive to me that we played way, way better as the season went on. You can say that's because we got shitty opponents, but that's not really the case. We played like shit against everyone early and by the end of the year, we blew the doors off 2 mediocre/bad teams (OSU and WSU). If we'd played Hawai'i again at the end of the season, we'd have destroyed them.
I think Pete's record gives him the privilege of a 'half-full glass' look. If you look at last year as a half full glass, the read is pretty simple:
He told everyone to suck it and do it his way. He dicked around a lot to just see what people would do, could do, were willing to do.
By the end of the year, we were really not very bad as he got people to play more 'his way', started using the 'talent' better and minimizing the impact of Miley on shit.
The Okie State game was just another Sark-era setback where people backslid with mental intensity. We actually played well in the second half, but it was too late.
This is why people picking us to be shit because we lost players is sort of missing the point. Shaq did make big plays, true; but when we 'got good' Shaq was almost irrelevant. MP was clearly irrelevant, it was really just Danny (who was totally inconsistent before last year) and Hau'oli who had only been good against crap teams.
I should just erase this poast as it's Teqfuckinglong, but I'm hung over so I'm typing. Fuck it.
And more power to you for keeping the optimism in the face of last season's results. I get that it's only one season, but The assessment that Pete came in and said, "Fuck it, we are doing this my way" might have some merit, but his offenses have been shit for three years.
I agree that things should get better with time, but still. There are plenty of things to be concerned about.
If you ever want to make yourself feel like a fuck wad, you should definitely go back in to game threads from last year and read your Miley dooging. It was unstoppable.
I read through one of them a couple months ago for some laps, because obviously I was being an insane idiot, and your Miley dooging gave me a few uncontrollable cringes.
Anyway, none of that matters. But, I do think it explains your cynicism when it comes to people and how we performed last season. -
Coleman win the Heisman you asshole!!
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Miles was less of a problem than Smith
