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I'm hearing that some big time boosters think Sark inherited a bare cupboard.

MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
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That's the attitude that justifies Sark really only in he second year. I can see the common doog believing this, but when the ubers and wanna be pretend ubers believ this shit, we are fucked even more.

Allow me to remind everyone Sark's bare cupboard one more time:

Here are some of the "Bare Cupboard" 2009 key returning players

Jake Locker (8th pick first round)
Chris Polk (Legit top 5 back in the history of UW, maybe even #2)
Nate Williams (Not drafted but invited to NFL camps)
Donald Butler ( 3rd Round draft pick)
Devin Aguilar (signed as a free agent)
Jermaine Kearse (signed as a free agent)
Erik Folk (signed as a free agent)
Mason Foster (3rd Round draft pick)
Senio Kelemete (4th Round draft pick)
Daniel Te'o-Nesheim (3rd Round draft pick)
Alameda Ta'amu (4th Round draft pick)

Plus there were a number of pretty solid D1 players.

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  • AuburndawgAuburndawg Member Posts: 362
    You're right. The cupboard wasn't completely bare. That is why he was able to go from zero wins to 7 so quickly.

    But remember walk-ons, true freshmen, and guys moved from other positions starting routinely? There is no doubt the shelves were not fully stocked then. They are now.

    None of that excuses bad coaching, but Sark did not inherit a team that was ready to compete for championships.
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Auburndawg said:

    You're right. The cupboard wasn't completely bare. That is why he was able to go from zero wins to 7 so quickly.

    But remember walk-ons, true freshmen, and guys moved from other positions starting routinely? There is no doubt the shelves were not fully stocked then. They are now.

    None of that excuses bad coaching, but Sark did not inherit a team that was ready to compete for championships.

    My post was a partial cut and past from a rant a did a while back. Here is the rest:

    FUCK KIM WITH A RUSTY CHEESE GRATER.

    Certainly, it wasn't championship talent, but there was talent to go to win 7 or 8 right away and by year 4 we should be at 10+ year 5 should be a Rose Bowl trip. FUCK KIM WITH A 90lb JACK HAMMER!

    now wining 9 games is Special? FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU!
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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Sark's "bare cupboard team" was also his team that got beaten by 20+ the least

    Yep, the team in 2009 was competitive in almost every game. They also played with more energy and confidence than any other Sark team. Why are they still getting plungered multiple times per season with supposedly a much more athletic team?
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  • Steve_BowmanSteve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    Big time donors are chumps. They lined up like little kids in a grade school lunch line to pander two weaklings.
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  • puppylove_sugarsteelpuppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Sark's best fucking team was the bare cupboard team. Fuck off and put this shit to rest. And the Uber's now aren't the same as those during the championship years. Those dudes ditched the program when Ty was hired, then retained!

    The new boobers are a bunch of new-money dinks who have never tasted true success. This program is fucked until we win a rose bowl. Then maybe changes will be made more frequently when 7-6 happens.
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  • AuburndawgAuburndawg Member Posts: 362
    MikeDamone said:

    Auburndawg said:

    .

    Certainly, it wasn't championship talent, but there was talent to go to win 7 or 8 right away and by year 4 we should be at 10+ year 5 should be a Rose Bowl trip.

    Agree with one small exception.

    Regarding year 4, I am willing to cut Sark some slack due to the extraordinary amount of injuries, especially on the Oline. But only some slack. We should have won at least 2 more games last year. Now we are deep enough (on paper) that no amount of injuries can serve as a legit excuse.
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  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,943 Founders Club
    @RickRedman (namedrop) is a dear old family friend who my dad has breakfast with every morning (not really). I'll get the non-Walla Walla blowhard perspective, and at the same time get some perspective by walking my cat away from the keybored.
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  • MeekMeek Member Posts: 7,031
    you guys have no idea the damage Jack Lockner did
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  • iDawgiDawg Member Posts: 131
    The destruction of UW football was always an inside job.
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    MikeDamone said:

    That's the attitude that justifies Sark really only in he second year. I can see the common doog believing this, but when the ubers and wanna be pretend ubers believ this shit, we are fucked even more.

    Allow me to remind everyone Sark's bare cupboard one more time:

    Here are some of the "Bare Cupboard" 2009 key returning players

    Jake Locker (8th pick first round)
    Chris Polk (Legit top 5 back in the history of UW, maybe even #2)
    Nate Williams (Not drafted but invited to NFL camps)
    Donald Butler ( 3rd Round draft pick)
    Devin Aguilar (signed as a free agent)
    Jermaine Kearse (signed as a free agent)
    Erik Folk (signed as a free agent)
    Mason Foster (3rd Round draft pick)
    Senio Kelemete (4th Round draft pick)
    Daniel Te'o-Nesheim (3rd Round draft pick)
    Alameda Ta'amu (4th Round draft pick)

    Plus there were a number of pretty solid D1 players.

    I bet that team has more NFL players on it than this current team. It's pretty damn close.

    Damone is right, if we had a real coach and not some guy learning on the job that first year UW is a bowl team. Year two the real coach probably realizes Jack can only run and can't throw and would utilize that plus Polk from the get go.

    By year four the plunger rapings would have stopped, so would the piss poor road performances and we'd be ranked right now. We'd also be able to say with a straight face we expect a Rose Bowl.
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  • LawDawg1LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,869
    He_Needs_More_Time said:


    I bet that team has more NFL players on it than this current team. It's pretty damn close.


    So Ty was a good recruiter?
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  • TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,798
    Don't forget to include Price and Middleton in the All Bare-Cupboard Team. Goodwin, Boyce and Sylvester also hung around a while on NFL practice squads.
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    MikeDamone said:

    That's the attitude that justifies Sark really only in he second year. I can see the common doog believing this, but when the ubers and wanna be pretend ubers believ this shit, we are fucked even more.

    Allow me to remind everyone Sark's bare cupboard one more time:

    Here are some of the "Bare Cupboard" 2009 key returning players

    Jake Locker (8th pick first round)
    Chris Polk (Legit top 5 back in the history of UW, maybe even #2)
    Nate Williams (Not drafted but invited to NFL camps)
    Donald Butler ( 3rd Round draft pick)
    Devin Aguilar (signed as a free agent)
    Jermaine Kearse (signed as a free agent)
    Erik Folk (signed as a free agent)
    Mason Foster (3rd Round draft pick)
    Senio Kelemete (4th Round draft pick)
    Daniel Te'o-Nesheim (3rd Round draft pick)
    Alameda Ta'amu (4th Round draft pick)

    Plus there were a number of pretty solid D1 players.

    I bet that team has more NFL players on it than this current team. It's pretty damn close.

    Damone is right, if we had a real coach and not some guy learning on the job that first year UW is a bowl team. Year two the real coach probably realizes Jack can only run and can't throw and would utilize that plus Polk from the get go.

    By year four the plunger rapings would have stopped, so would the piss poor road performances and we'd be ranked right now. We'd also be able to say with a straight face we expect a Rose Bowl.
    Forcing Lockner into being a pocket passer to prove some NFL QB kingmaker fantasy was the stupidest fucking thing ever.

    Imagine if Chip Kelly had Jack running his defense?
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  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    We pretty much had a low-budget version of Lockner in 2009... Jeremiah Masoli.
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    ThomasFremont said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    MikeDamone said:

    That's the attitude that justifies Sark really only in he second year. I can see the common doog believing this, but when the ubers and wanna be pretend ubers believ this shit, we are fucked even more.

    Allow me to remind everyone Sark's bare cupboard one more time:

    Here are some of the "Bare Cupboard" 2009 key returning players

    Jake Locker (8th pick first round)
    Chris Polk (Legit top 5 back in the history of UW, maybe even #2)
    Nate Williams (Not drafted but invited to NFL camps)
    Donald Butler ( 3rd Round draft pick)
    Devin Aguilar (signed as a free agent)
    Jermaine Kearse (signed as a free agent)
    Erik Folk (signed as a free agent)
    Mason Foster (3rd Round draft pick)
    Senio Kelemete (4th Round draft pick)
    Daniel Te'o-Nesheim (3rd Round draft pick)
    Alameda Ta'amu (4th Round draft pick)

    Plus there were a number of pretty solid D1 players.

    I bet that team has more NFL players on it than this current team. It's pretty damn close.

    Damone is right, if we had a real coach and not some guy learning on the job that first year UW is a bowl team. Year two the real coach probably realizes Jack can only run and can't throw and would utilize that plus Polk from the get go.

    By year four the plunger rapings would have stopped, so would the piss poor road performances and we'd be ranked right now. We'd also be able to say with a straight face we expect a Rose Bowl.
    Forcing Lockner into being a pocket passer to prove some NFL QB kingmaker fantasy was the stupidest fucking thing ever.

    Imagine if Chip Kelly had Jack running his defense?
    Could you imagine if Rick had done that with Tui? Instead of winning a Rose Bowl and popping off UW goes 7-5.
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    MikeDamone said:

    That's the attitude that justifies Sark really only in he second year. I can see the common doog believing this, but when the ubers and wanna be pretend ubers believ this shit, we are fucked even more.

    Allow me to remind everyone Sark's bare cupboard one more time:

    Here are some of the "Bare Cupboard" 2009 key returning players

    Jake Locker (8th pick first round)
    Chris Polk (Legit top 5 back in the history of UW, maybe even #2)
    Nate Williams (Not drafted but invited to NFL camps)
    Donald Butler ( 3rd Round draft pick)
    Devin Aguilar (signed as a free agent)
    Jermaine Kearse (signed as a free agent)
    Erik Folk (signed as a free agent)
    Mason Foster (3rd Round draft pick)
    Senio Kelemete (4th Round draft pick)
    Daniel Te'o-Nesheim (3rd Round draft pick)
    Alameda Ta'amu (4th Round draft pick)

    Plus there were a number of pretty solid D1 players.

    I bet that team has more NFL players on it than this current team. It's pretty damn close.

    Damone is right, if we had a real coach and not some guy learning on the job that first year UW is a bowl team. Year two the real coach probably realizes Jack can only run and can't throw and would utilize that plus Polk from the get go.

    By year four the plunger rapings would have stopped, so would the piss poor road performances and we'd be ranked right now. We'd also be able to say with a straight face we expect a Rose Bowl.
    Forcing Lockner into being a pocket passer to prove some NFL QB kingmaker fantasy was the stupidest fucking thing ever.

    Imagine if Chip Kelly had Jack running his defense?
    Could you imagine if Rick had done that with Tui? Instead of winning a Rose Bowl and popping off UW goes 7-5.
    Rick LIED about a job with the 49'ers. Plus he was in HOT WATER with the Coaches Association.
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    AZDuck said:

    We pretty much had a low-budget version of Lockner in 2009... Jeremiah Masoli.

    Masoli played safety?

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  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    He should have.
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  • DeepSeaZDeepSeaZ Member Posts: 3,901
    New money without tasting success. If you have new money, you understand success. Mark Cuban disagrees with you.
    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    Sark's best fucking team was the bare cupboard team. Fuck off and put this shit to rest. And the Uber's now aren't the same as those during the championship years. Those dudes ditched the program when Ty was hired, then retained!

    The new boobers are a bunch of new-money dinks who have never tasted true success. This program is fucked until we win a rose bowl. Then maybe changes will be made more frequently when 7-6 happens.

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