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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,408 Founders Club
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,373 Standard Supporter
    In Apostle's dumb ass ramblings he made a good point regarding Stanford. I would be curious about their attrition in the years before Shaw. My guess is that historically fewer players transfer from there unless forced out because guys don't want to pass up a Stanford education to play elsewhere.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,213
    I think Stanford is the most interesting case study as a whole in the conference right now.

    My general opinion after Harbaugh left was that we'd see regression under Shaw. On one hand, I think if you use the eye test (and it's questionable whether some eyes are as good as mine) it's hard not to conclude that Stanford has looked significantly less impressive over the last few years as the program has shifted out of the Harbaugh influence into that of Shaw dominated. At the same time, the results that Stanford is having under Shaw are still very acceptable and hard to complain about.

    If I was betting over the next 2-3 years, I would lean to Stanford continuing to take some steps back ... but I also don't think that they are going to regress back to the 5-7 to 7-5 range that I had thought might happen under Shaw a couple of years ago.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    Stanford is going to have a monster defense for the foreseeable future. And their S&C (and roid) program may be the best in the country.Their class this year might end up 2nd to only SC in the conference.

    I expect their offense to continue to slide back. It has gotten consistently worse under Shaw even with a veteran 2x rosebowl QB.

    But as long as Stanford isn't Buddy Teevens bad, they're going to get talent. They've cornered the market for elite education and competent football.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,213

    Stanford is going to have a monster defense for the foreseeable future. And their S&C (and roid) program may be the best in the country.Their class this year might end up 2nd to only SC in the conference.

    I expect their offense to continue to slide back. It has gotten consistently worse under Shaw even with a veteran 2x rosebowl QB.

    But as long as Stanford isn't Buddy Teevens bad, they're going to get talent. They've cornered the market for elite education and competent football.

    This is the universal truth about Stanford that I feel that at times is missed on this board.

    Most programs that have success have SOMETHING that they offer to recruits that few others can. For some it is location/being close to home. Some is its history. Some education. Few schools can offer an education better than Stanford. That's a simple fact. It's not the end all to be all, but it's also something that is in play when they recruit a player.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,373 Standard Supporter

    Stanford is going to have a monster defense for the foreseeable future. And their S&C (and roid) program may be the best in the country.Their class this year might end up 2nd to only SC in the conference.

    I expect their offense to continue to slide back. It has gotten consistently worse under Shaw even with a veteran 2x rosebowl QB.

    But as long as Stanford isn't Buddy Teevens bad, they're going to get talent. They've cornered the market for elite education and competent football.

    Bingo. They have recruited well and their roid program is great. Their teams pass the look test.
  • purpledoogfan
    purpledoogfan Member Posts: 502
    edited July 2015
    Stanford is going to have a monster defense for the foreseeable future. And their S&C (and roid) Chocolate Milk program may be the best in the country.Their class this year might end up 2nd to only SC in the conference.
  • MrsPetersen
    MrsPetersen Member Posts: 724
    The way Stanford classifies athletes by class is a pain in my ass (determining if they exhausted eligibility). It was a toss-up who was more annoying, Stanford or Utah (missions). Otherwise I would offer to go back and look at Stanford pre-Harbaugh to see their attrition levels, I like to at least fake having a life.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,213

    The way Stanford classifies athletes by class is a pain in my ass (determining if they exhausted eligibility). It was a toss-up who was more annoying, Stanford or Utah (missions). Otherwise I would offer to go back and look at Stanford pre-Harbaugh to see their attrition levels, I like to at least fake having a life.

    But we already know the truth ...
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279

    Stanford is going to have a monster defense for the foreseeable future. And their S&C (and roid) program may be the best in the country.Their class this year might end up 2nd to only SC in the conference.

    I expect their offense to continue to slide back. It has gotten consistently worse under Shaw even with a veteran 2x rosebowl QB.

    But as long as Stanford isn't Buddy Teevens bad, they're going to get talent. They've cornered the market for elite education and competent football.

    Bingo. They have recruited well and their roid program is great. Their teams pass the look test.
    I was reading how a 5star Texas DE, Solomon Thomas, added something like 30 pounds of muscle or something ridiculous in 9months during his redshirt year last year at Stanford. And this kid was already a weight room fiend out of high school, looking atypically rocked out and not fat. They are obviously roiding at a magical level. BALCO is right down the street afterall.