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  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    out here we don't have mods out here. out here we have higher discussion out here. that just isn't going to be tolerated out here!
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  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,480 Swaye's Wigwam
    The bottom line is that Kim gets off the record stuff from Woody and Sark. He's not going to jeopardize that by letting criticism of those two on his main board. He's changing his boards around to fit his agenda. He's seriously worried that if Sark gets fired (no matter how unlikely that will be), he loses his key to the cookie jar. That's the reason for a new board.

    Kim's motivation is access. His first critique of Willingham was that they closed off the team hotels on the road where Kim used to run around with his own homer in his sweatpants when Rick was the coach. He wants so badly to be an important media guy in Husky football and sports in the Seattle scene that its painful to watch.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    CheersWestDawg said:

    The bottom line is that Kim gets off the record stuff from Woody and Sark. He's not going to jeopardize that by letting criticism of those two on his main board. He's changing his boards around to fit his agenda. He's seriously worried that if Sark gets fired (no matter how unlikely that will be), he loses his key to the cookie jar. That's the reason for a new board.

    Kim's motivation is access. His first critique of Willingham was that they closed off the team hotels on the road where Kim used to run around with his own homer in his sweatpants when Rick was the coach. He wants so badly to be an important media guy in Husky football and sports in the Seattle scene that its painful to watch.

    Yep. Kim didn't care that Ty was a proven loser, he didn't like Ty because he received no access. Even then though he still defended Ty on his message board.

    I'd love to live in a world where UW hires a good coach who is also a prick to the media. So our program is better AND guys like Kim aren't receiving access.
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  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,480 Swaye's Wigwam
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    CheersWestDawg said:

    The bottom line is that Kim gets off the record stuff from Woody and Sark. He's not going to jeopardize that by letting criticism of those two on his main board. He's changing his boards around to fit his agenda. He's seriously worried that if Sark gets fired (no matter how unlikely that will be), he loses his key to the cookie jar. That's the reason for a new board.

    Kim's motivation is access. His first critique of Willingham was that they closed off the team hotels on the road where Kim used to run around with his own homer in his sweatpants when Rick was the coach. He wants so badly to be an important media guy in Husky football and sports in the Seattle scene that its painful to watch.

    Yep. Kim didn't care that Ty was a proven loser, he didn't like Ty because he received no access. Even then though he still defended Ty on his message board.

    I'd love to live in a world where UW hires a good coach who is also a prick to the media. So our program is better AND guys like Kim aren't receiving access.
    I'll disagree with you that Kim defended Ty. I thought he was critical of Ty, just not enough. But the problem is that Kim and Fleenor don't care as much about the W's as they do about access. If Ty would have won, Kim would still be pissing and moaning about the lack of access. Now that we have a mediocre coach rather than a completely worthless one, Kim - rather than looking at all of Sark's fuck ups - defaults to access as the tiebreaker. I'm sure in his head Kim thinks, "Well, he's a .500 head coach, but he gives me off the record stuff when it comes to recruiting so I like him."
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited August 2013
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    CheersWestDawg said:

    The bottom line is that Kim gets off the record stuff from Woody and Sark. He's not going to jeopardize that by letting criticism of those two on his main board. He's changing his boards around to fit his agenda. He's seriously worried that if Sark gets fired (no matter how unlikely that will be), he loses his key to the cookie jar. That's the reason for a new board.

    Kim's motivation is access. His first critique of Willingham was that they closed off the team hotels on the road where Kim used to run around with his own homer in his sweatpants when Rick was the coach. He wants so badly to be an important media guy in Husky football and sports in the Seattle scene that its painful to watch.

    Yep. Kim didn't care that Ty was a proven loser, he didn't like Ty because he received no access. Even then though he still defended Ty on his message board.

    I'd love to live in a world where UW hires a good coach who is also a prick to the media. So our program is better AND guys like Kim aren't receiving access.
    I don't think Kim is a good guy..but I will say this..I talked to him before the Hawaii game and he communicated he thought Ty sucked as a coach and a person. He said the decision had been made that Ty was gone, win or lose after that game (great insider knowledge as always). So as of December 2007, at least in private, Kim was not in Ty's camp. And yes,it was probably more to do with access than wins, but still.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    CheersWestDawg said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    CheersWestDawg said:

    The bottom line is that Kim gets off the record stuff from Woody and Sark. He's not going to jeopardize that by letting criticism of those two on his main board. He's changing his boards around to fit his agenda. He's seriously worried that if Sark gets fired (no matter how unlikely that will be), he loses his key to the cookie jar. That's the reason for a new board.

    Kim's motivation is access. His first critique of Willingham was that they closed off the team hotels on the road where Kim used to run around with his own homer in his sweatpants when Rick was the coach. He wants so badly to be an important media guy in Husky football and sports in the Seattle scene that its painful to watch.

    Yep. Kim didn't care that Ty was a proven loser, he didn't like Ty because he received no access. Even then though he still defended Ty on his message board.

    I'd love to live in a world where UW hires a good coach who is also a prick to the media. So our program is better AND guys like Kim aren't receiving access.
    I'll disagree with you that Kim defended Ty. I thought he was critical of Ty, just not enough. But the problem is that Kim and Fleenor don't care as much about the W's as they do about access. If Ty would have won, Kim would still be pissing and moaning about the lack of access. Now that we have a mediocre coach rather than a completely worthless one, Kim - rather than looking at all of Sark's fuck ups - defaults to access as the tiebreaker. I'm sure in his head Kim thinks, "Well, he's a .500 head coach, but he gives me off the record stuff when it comes to recruiting so I like him."
    Defend was the wrong choice of words but he wasn't as vocal about Ty as he obviously felt about Ty. Perhaps I'm giving Dawgman too much credit in 2007 but had they really pushed firing Ty and the Husky Honks really pushed firing Ty instead of playing it safe I think he is fired.

    The rest of your statement is spot on. Kim would rather have a Sark and his record coach this team than a Kelly/Belicheck type with their records coach our team.
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  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,945
    Kim would rather have a Sark and his record coach this team than a Kelly/Belicheck type with their records coach our team.

    He's journalist. He's not supposed to be fan. Or so we're told.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,423 Standard Supporter
    MikeDamone said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    CheersWestDawg said:

    The bottom line is that Kim gets off the record stuff from Woody and Sark. He's not going to jeopardize that by letting criticism of those two on his main board. He's changing his boards around to fit his agenda. He's seriously worried that if Sark gets fired (no matter how unlikely that will be), he loses his key to the cookie jar. That's the reason for a new board.

    Kim's motivation is access. His first critique of Willingham was that they closed off the team hotels on the road where Kim used to run around with his own homer in his sweatpants when Rick was the coach. He wants so badly to be an important media guy in Husky football and sports in the Seattle scene that its painful to watch.

    Yep. Kim didn't care that Ty was a proven loser, he didn't like Ty because he received no access. Even then though he still defended Ty on his message board.

    I'd love to live in a world where UW hires a good coach who is also a prick to the media. So our program is better AND guys like Kim aren't receiving access.
    I don't think Kim is a good guy..but I will say this..I talked to him before the Hawaii game and he communicated he thought Ty sucked as a coach and a person. He said the decision had been made that Ty was gone, win or lose after that game (great insider knowledge as always). So as of December 2007, at least in private, Kim was not in Ty's camp. And yes,it was probably more to do with access than wins, but still.
    Kim never liked Ty, but it all stemmed from Ty shutting down Spring Ball to the public which is where his "These are HIS Washington Huskies." If Ty would have treated him better and gave him access, he would have supported him until 0-12.

    This is just purely speculation, but I think Woodward and/or Sark approached Kim and told him there would be rewards for keeping the boards with a postive slant towards UW. Kim defends every single criticism about Sark and Woodward. Not some of them, not most of them, but every single one. They fed him bullshit and he ate it up because he was so thrilled to be acknowledged by the big guns at UW.

    Kim may think he gets scoop from the AD and coaches, but it is really just bullshit propaganda. They don't give a shit about giving Kim honest scoop.
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