Concerns over WR recruiting

Dennis_DeYoung · July 2015

HeretoBeatmyChest said:
I like our WR's & TE's. Sorry to keep mentioning it but you add a String to that group and it would be championship quality. Thats a huge caveat but thats all we are missing, a big legit #1 WR.

John Ross- If he returns healthy in 2016, he's an all-league guy

Jaydon Mickens- Quietly picked up his game the last 4 games of the year. 21 catches for 286 and 2 TD's plus 2 TD's on reverses. I think he can be Honorable Mention All-Pac12 this year. He will mitigate the loss of Ross which I think is biggest on kick returns.

Dante Pettis- Flashed like Dennis said. 16 catches for 200 yards the last 6 games. Thats 400 yards over a full season. Will get 500-600 this season if he gets the touches. Is going to be a solid player who gets better and better.

Brayden Lenius- See the article below. Has great bloodlines. 6'5 217. Has physical tools and good hands. Get this guy roided out while keeping his speed and he could develop into a #1 WR.

http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/23714790/grandson-has-the-potential-drive-to-create-nfl-legacy-that-dickey-was-denied

Moving onto the TE's

Josh Perkins- Only played last 8 games of the year...25 grabs for 315 yards and 3 TDs. Was a good safety target last year. Does he get passed by better guys?

Darrell Daniels- Really want to see him breakout this year more than any other player. Can't believe they wasted his redshirt. As far as big play potential, he's #2 behind Ross. He has the ability to turn catches into big gains.

Drew Sample & David Ajamu- I know they played well in Spring and can block.

Overall this could be a top notch group in 2016 if Ross is back to self, Daniels develops and so does Lenius. Ross-Pettis-Lenius, Daniels at TE. Plus you have the guys to do 2 or 3 TE sets.

As far as WR recruiting I hope we can find a 6'3 or 6'4 type guy. Too many smurfs. But as others have said, WR isnt very important and its easy to replace guys. I like the near future at WR & TE.

Yeah, if JRoss and String were here, we would have a top-tier group. In '16, we might have a great group anyway.

I don't like Fuller, but this is all just dm.c level griping.

HeretoBeatmyChest · July 2015

At worst its an adequate group this year. Has a chance to be really good next year even without a String. Lenius will get better. If he can get a lot better he could develop into that #1 type.

And @Dennis_DeYoung you are right on Sankey. He had a few awesome runs in 2011 and it was obvious he was going to be very good. It took him half of 2012 and then he consistently was putting up +100 most games.

Dwayne Washington is similar in that we can see he has the potential as he's flashed it more than a handful of times. He never will be as good as Sankey but if he can figure some things out he will be a lot more consistent and be a good back.

FremontTroll · July 2015

Dennis_DeYoung said:
Ugh, I'm going nuts so I just took that stuff out.

It's not major pressing: Pettis' punt returns were a serious part of why we did anything against Stanford.

Again: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I got in fights with so many morons saying the same thing about Sankey after his freshman year.

When he was on the field he looked good. What else do you want?

People said if he were better he would've clearly wrested the backup RB position from Callier.

This doogy crap always has the flavor of uninformed/random skepticism.

For whatever reason Callier had one decent fly sweep and people thought he was good. I spent he whole year saying Sankey was much better and people would make the same arguments "he choked at Neb" "it was two runs!" Whatever.

Pettis and Lenius looked good to me. You can say they didn't look good, but you can't say them failing to dominate in the Pac-12 is evidence of anything.

Sankey didn't even win the starting RB job in camp! Saying 'the coaches know' and taking who plays as a rule about who is good is foolish.

Pettis and Lenius both flashed in limited time. That's all you can ask.

I swear to god, when I revisited this topic re: Sankey during '13 they were all saying "we were just saying he hadn't DONE anything yet."

Uh, that's not an opinion, that's a statement of fact. Using it is as justified skepticism that someone won't do anything in the future is like saying, "well Jimmy hasn't learned how to read and he's had 5 years on the earth..."

It's just totally ignorant of the natural course of development.

I'm not criticizing I just have questions. Some say concerns some say questions. Can CP adjust to playing with the big boys? It's a question.

dnc · July 2015

HeretoBeatmyChest said:
I like our WR's & TE's. Sorry to keep mentioning it but you add a String to that group and it would be championship quality. Thats a huge caveat but thats all we are missing, a big legit #1 WR.

John Ross- If he returns healthy in 2016, he's an all-league guy

Jaydon Mickens- Quietly picked up his game the last 4 games of the year. 21 catches for 286 and 2 TD's plus 2 TD's on reverses. I think he can be Honorable Mention All-Pac12 this year. He will mitigate the loss of Ross which I think is biggest on kick returns.

Dante Pettis- Flashed like Dennis said. 16 catches for 200 yards the last 6 games. Thats 400 yards over a full season. Will get 500-600 this season if he gets the touches. Is going to be a solid player who gets better and better.

Brayden Lenius- See the article below. Has great bloodlines. 6'5 217. Has physical tools and good hands. Get this guy roided out while keeping his speed and he could develop into a #1 WR.

http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/23714790/grandson-has-the-potential-drive-to-create-nfl-legacy-that-dickey-was-denied

Moving onto the TE's

Josh Perkins- Only played last 8 games of the year...25 grabs for 315 yards and 3 TDs. Was a good safety target last year. Does he get passed by better guys?

Darrell Daniels- Really want to see him breakout this year more than any other player. Can't believe they wasted his redshirt. As far as big play potential, he's #2 behind Ross. He has the ability to turn catches into big gains.

Drew Sample & David Ajamu- I know they played well in Spring and can block.

Overall this could be a top notch group in 2016 if Ross is back to self, Daniels develops and so does Lenius. Ross-Pettis-Lenius, Daniels at TE. Plus you have the guys to do 2 or 3 TE sets.

As far as WR recruiting I hope we can find a 6'3 or 6'4 type guy. Too many smurfs. But as others have said, WR isnt very important and its easy to replace guys. I like the near future at WR & TE.

Kind of ironic that the one guy we're missing is the guy we see everywhere.

whatshouldicareabout · July 2015

Dennis_DeYoung said:
Ugh, I'm going nuts so I just took that stuff out.

It's not major pressing: Pettis' punt returns were a serious part of why we did anything against Stanford.

Again: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I got in fights with so many morons saying the same thing about Sankey after his freshman year.

When he was on the field he looked good. What else do you want?

People said if he were better he would've clearly wrested the backup RB position from Callier.

This doogy crap always has the flavor of uninformed/random skepticism.

For whatever reason Callier had one decent fly sweep and people thought he was good. I spent he whole year saying Sankey was much better and people would make the same arguments "he choked at Neb" "it was two runs!" Whatever.

Pettis and Lenius looked good to me. You can say they didn't look good, but you can't say them failing to dominate in the Pac-12 is evidence of anything.

Sankey didn't even win the starting RB job in camp! Saying 'the coaches know' and taking who plays as a rule about who is good is foolish.

Pettis and Lenius both flashed in limited time. That's all you can ask.

I swear to god, when I revisited this topic re: Sankey during '13 they were all saying "we were just saying he hadn't DONE anything yet."

Uh, that's not an opinion, that's a statement of fact. Using it is as justified skepticism that someone won't do anything in the future is like saying, "well Jimmy hasn't learned how to read and he's had 5 years on the earth..."

It's just totally ignorant of the natural course of development.

Pettis has 3 punt returns for 6 yards against Stanford.

Look, all I'm saying is that no one has proven themselves yet. I'm saying that absence of evidence is in fact, absence of evidence, not evidence that they'll be the next Bishop Sankey. But, hey, don't let that stop you from anointing them All Pac-12 for 2015.