Petersen Question From Stewart Mandel's Mailbag
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I'm saying beat everyone but USC and UCLA, nothing else matters.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
So you're saying Beat Oregon, Nothing Else Matters?Dennis_DeYoung said:@HeretoBeatmyChest's poast was a little difficult for me to decipher, but suffice it to say that we ALMOST never recruited above UCLA and USC (I think in '88 we were ahead of 1 of them). And third is always where we want to be. This 5th shit is a disaster. Oregon is basically always third now and what we used to be. Now we battle fucking Stanford and ASU.
Close the fucking program down. Fuck.
Anyway, the point I was making is that you have to have last year's class as an 'average' class and ones above that where you produce some superstars to contend for Nattys. Like, if we'd gotten Skinny this year, bam—there you go—superstar.
We don't have a fucking superstar on our radar this year, we just have some decent players (outside of guys like Lawrence and Juarez who are a million to one). Next year it's Sarrell and Ahmed in-state. We better fucking get them.
It's no big deal if Tommie Smith never becomes an All-America so long as guys like Mario Bailey does. Same thing with Kasen's class. He never became an All-America, but Marcus Peters did, so no sweat.
What you need is All Pac-12 players at every position, then some All-Americans. My suspicion is this isn't the year we'll see that. -
People forget that UW always recruited well in So Cal even in the waning dreck filled years of Jim Owens. James had some decent talent here when he took over. Just not enough.
He then nabbed Warren Moon out of LA to show the world that things had changed at UW and we would play a natural athlete who needed to spend more time in the film room at QB.
James did well in SO Cal and the Bay Area, the two places Oregon took over from us. When James took over the Bay Area the set the stage for decades of dominance over Cal and Stanford.
Recruiting matters. It wasn't until we dropped football that the doogs came up with this bullshit about how we can't recruit in Cali and you can't blame a kid for taking a Stanford offer and all that crap.
Now when I see we are after a kid who has an Oregon offer I know we're fucked. That's a 180 degree turn folks. We need to make it 360. -
Never complain about a problem without a solution
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This is 2015 and a UW program that's been under derelict management for decades. Those 80's era SMU stacks aren't fat enough.RaceBannon said:Never complain about a problem without a solution
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Those $10 bills are offensive. Actually all American currency is offensive. Nothing but white men. I am shaking and vomiting.RaceBannon said:Never complain about a problem without a solution
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#microtriggerdnc said:
Those $10 bills are offensive. Actually all American currency is offensive. Nothing but white men. I am shaking and vomiting.RaceBannon said:Never complain about a problem without a solution
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This is the whole fucking (hole fucking?) ball of wax right here.RaceBannon said:People forget that UW always recruited well in So Cal even in the waning dreck filled years of Jim Owens. James had some decent talent here when he took over. Just not enough.
He then nabbed Warren Moon out of LA to show the world that things had changed at UW and we would play a natural athlete who needed to spend more time in the film room at QB.
James did well in SO Cal and the Bay Area, the two places Oregon took over from us. When James took over the Bay Area the set the stage for decades of dominance over Cal and Stanford.
Recruiting matters. It wasn't until we dropped football that the doogs came up with this bullshit about how we can't recruit in Cali and you can't blame a kid for taking a Stanford offer and all that crap.
Now when I see we are after a kid who has an Oregon offer I know we're fucked. That's a 180 degree turn folks. We need to make it 360.
The strategy for our recruiting has always been the same: Get 90% of the best kids in WA, Beat everyone outside of the LA schools for recruits 80% of the time, win 20% of the battles with the LA schools.
Right now we're getting about 80% of the best kids out of Washington (losing Eason is huge no matter how much I like Pete);
We're beating ASU about 50% of the time, Oregon about 15% and Stanford about 33%.
OSU, Utah, WSU, Colorado, Cal and Zona about 80% of the time.
We're beating USC and UCLA about 5% of the time. -
If you are ripping on driving to Southlake to go to the Cheesecake Factory followed by a trip to X's and O's ... then I'm fucking out.brchco12 said:
If you lived in 75275 and drove to Southlake for cheesecake factory you were really doing it wrong.Dennis_DeYoung said:
I lived in Dallas for 7 years jagoff! How do think I had those big nights at the Southlake Cheesecake Factory where I drank bottles of Champagne and ate a whole cheesecake (editor's note: this is a good way to administer a diabetic coma)?!!?Tequilla said:I'd be surprised if you knew where Lucas, TX was before today
I didn't live in fucking Arlington or Sachse either.
I lived in the middle of fucking Dallas proper. 75275 bitch. -
Eason hurts IF Browning isn't what we think he is ... if he is, then it's more of a perception problem. I'm still trying to figure out how much of the fuck up here was Pete realizing he ain't in the WAC anymore versus Eason wanting to leave the area.Dennis_DeYoung said:
This is the whole fucking (hole fucking?) ball of wax right here.RaceBannon said:People forget that UW always recruited well in So Cal even in the waning dreck filled years of Jim Owens. James had some decent talent here when he took over. Just not enough.
He then nabbed Warren Moon out of LA to show the world that things had changed at UW and we would play a natural athlete who needed to spend more time in the film room at QB.
James did well in SO Cal and the Bay Area, the two places Oregon took over from us. When James took over the Bay Area the set the stage for decades of dominance over Cal and Stanford.
Recruiting matters. It wasn't until we dropped football that the doogs came up with this bullshit about how we can't recruit in Cali and you can't blame a kid for taking a Stanford offer and all that crap.
Now when I see we are after a kid who has an Oregon offer I know we're fucked. That's a 180 degree turn folks. We need to make it 360.
The strategy for our recruiting has always been the same: Get 90% of the best kids in WA, Beat everyone outside of the LA schools for recruits 80% of the time, win 20% of the battles with the LA schools.
Right now we're getting about 80% of the best kids out of Washington (losing Eason is huge no matter how much I like Pete);
We're beating ASU about 50% of the time, Oregon about 15% and Stanford about 33%.
OSU, Utah, WSU, Colorado, Cal and Zona about 80% of the time.
We're beating USC and UCLA about 5% of the time.
Getting the best kids in Washington (the ones we want) I expect to continue getting better. Pulling Budda back from Oregon is a step in the right direction. In fact, over time, I expect that our recruiting versus Oregon and Slingblade will normalize a bit compared to Chipster vs Seven.
Ideally we need to get the ASU percentage up to about 70-75% and Stanford up to 50/50 to slightly better.
UCLA and USC are different stories to me at this point. How much longer is Mora going to be there? Who do they replace him with? And how many of the same players is Pete going after compared to SC? Seven is living off the myths that he is throwing out there at the moment. Once reality sets in I expect that we'll start doing a little better in recruiting against SC. And as we all know, UW player development is going to beat USC player development every single day of the week. -
From what I'm following in recruiting this year UW seems close to jumping ASU in the power rankings, if they haven't already it's seems to be trending that way.Tequilla said:
Eason hurts IF Browning isn't what we think he is ... if he is, then it's more of a perception problem. I'm still trying to figure out how much of the fuck up here was Pete realizing he ain't in the WAC anymore versus Eason wanting to leave the area.Dennis_DeYoung said:
This is the whole fucking (hole fucking?) ball of wax right here.RaceBannon said:People forget that UW always recruited well in So Cal even in the waning dreck filled years of Jim Owens. James had some decent talent here when he took over. Just not enough.
He then nabbed Warren Moon out of LA to show the world that things had changed at UW and we would play a natural athlete who needed to spend more time in the film room at QB.
James did well in SO Cal and the Bay Area, the two places Oregon took over from us. When James took over the Bay Area the set the stage for decades of dominance over Cal and Stanford.
Recruiting matters. It wasn't until we dropped football that the doogs came up with this bullshit about how we can't recruit in Cali and you can't blame a kid for taking a Stanford offer and all that crap.
Now when I see we are after a kid who has an Oregon offer I know we're fucked. That's a 180 degree turn folks. We need to make it 360.
The strategy for our recruiting has always been the same: Get 90% of the best kids in WA, Beat everyone outside of the LA schools for recruits 80% of the time, win 20% of the battles with the LA schools.
Right now we're getting about 80% of the best kids out of Washington (losing Eason is huge no matter how much I like Pete);
We're beating ASU about 50% of the time, Oregon about 15% and Stanford about 33%.
OSU, Utah, WSU, Colorado, Cal and Zona about 80% of the time.
We're beating USC and UCLA about 5% of the time.
Getting the best kids in Washington (the ones we want) I expect to continue getting better. Pulling Budda back from Oregon is a step in the right direction. In fact, over time, I expect that our recruiting versus Oregon and Slingblade will normalize a bit compared to Chipster vs Seven.
Ideally we need to get the ASU percentage up to about 70-75% and Stanford up to 50/50 to slightly better.
UCLA and USC are different stories to me at this point. How much longer is Mora going to be there? Who do they replace him with? And how many of the same players is Pete going after compared to SC? Seven is living off the myths that he is throwing out there at the moment. Once reality sets in I expect that we'll start doing a little better in recruiting against SC. And as we all know, UW player development is going to beat USC player development every single day of the week.
A big difference that those stuck in 1991 don't want to realize - Stanford is a major problem in recruiting now a days. I think fb players are more focused on academis, Stanford as a degree has grown in perception since then, and their team is a whole lot better. SC doesn't always beat them out anymore. UCLA never does these days. And from what I've read that Sarrell kid is a heavy lean to Stanford.
Sevens recruiting looks Alabama level right now for 2016 and especially 2017. If he throws up an 8-4 or 7-5 season maybe that crumbles, but if it doesn't he's going to build a Pete Carroll talent level advantage there. Which might be a good thing if it saves his job. Either way...
