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AP: Job market's new normal: Smaller workforce, sluggish pay

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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ECONOMY_THE_NEW_JOB_MARKET?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-07-04-10-24-16skjlkjeosnosniodoifnoaaanananana is your source?!?!??
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Thursday's monthly jobs report from the government showed that employers added a solid 223,000 jobs in June and that the unemployment rate fell to 5.3 percent from 5.5 percent in May. Even so, the generally improving job market still bears traits that have long been regarded as weaknesses.

    The unemployment rate didn't fall in June because more people were hired. The rate fell solely because the number of people who had become dispirited and stopped looking for work far exceeded the number who found jobs.


    I'm confused. Is there more jobs or not?
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,347 Founders Club

    Obama's amerika is heading the way of Greece.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Thursday's monthly jobs report from the government showed that employers added a solid 223,000 jobs in June and that the unemployment rate fell to 5.3 percent from 5.5 percent in May. Even so, the generally improving job market still bears traits that have long been regarded as weaknesses.

    The unemployment rate didn't fall in June because more people were hired. The rate fell solely because the number of people who had become dispirited and stopped looking for work far exceeded the number who found jobs.


    I'm confused. Is there more jobs or not?

    Solely definitely is not the case. It looks like a little of both to me. However it's impossible to argue that healthcare reform hasn't totally messed up full time employment. It's now much less expensive to hire two 20 hour workers than one 40 hour worker. Simple fact
    Read up on FTEs, or full time equivalents. Those 2 20 workers are the exact same as 1 40 hour worker.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,476 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Thursday's monthly jobs report from the government showed that employers added a solid 223,000 jobs in June and that the unemployment rate fell to 5.3 percent from 5.5 percent in May. Even so, the generally improving job market still bears traits that have long been regarded as weaknesses.

    The unemployment rate didn't fall in June because more people were hired. The rate fell solely because the number of people who had become dispirited and stopped looking for work far exceeded the number who found jobs.


    I'm confused. Is there more jobs or not?

    Solely definitely is not the case. It looks like a little of both to me. However it's impossible to argue that healthcare reform hasn't totally messed up full time employment. It's now much less expensive to hire two 20 hour workers than one 40 hour worker. Simple fact
    Read up on FTEs, or full time equivalents. Those 2 20 workers are the exact same as 1 40 hour worker.
    Let me help you dumbmotherfucker with a math equation. I'll type slow so you can follow along.


    1 40-hour work must be paid hourly plus obamacare.

    2 20-hour works must be paid hourly only


    therefore the cost of

    1 40-hour work is > 2 20-hour workers



    Hope this helps. But I'm not holding me breath.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Thursday's monthly jobs report from the government showed that employers added a solid 223,000 jobs in June and that the unemployment rate fell to 5.3 percent from 5.5 percent in May. Even so, the generally improving job market still bears traits that have long been regarded as weaknesses.

    The unemployment rate didn't fall in June because more people were hired. The rate fell solely because the number of people who had become dispirited and stopped looking for work far exceeded the number who found jobs.


    I'm confused. Is there more jobs or not?

    Solely definitely is not the case. It looks like a little of both to me. However it's impossible to argue that healthcare reform hasn't totally messed up full time employment. It's now much less expensive to hire two 20 hour workers than one 40 hour worker. Simple fact
    Read up on FTEs, or full time equivalents. Those 2 20 workers are the exact same as 1 40 hour worker.
    Let me help you dumbmotherfucker with a math equation. I'll type slow so you can follow along.


    1 40-hour work must be paid hourly plus obamacare.

    2 20-hour works must be paid hourly only


    therefore the cost of

    1 40-hour work is > 2 20-hour workers



    Hope this helps. But I'm not holding me breath.
    Show me where it says any employer has to pay one penny for the cost of insurance to any employee.

    You are fucking stupid. Read the bill.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,476 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Thursday's monthly jobs report from the government showed that employers added a solid 223,000 jobs in June and that the unemployment rate fell to 5.3 percent from 5.5 percent in May. Even so, the generally improving job market still bears traits that have long been regarded as weaknesses.

    The unemployment rate didn't fall in June because more people were hired. The rate fell solely because the number of people who had become dispirited and stopped looking for work far exceeded the number who found jobs.


    I'm confused. Is there more jobs or not?

    Solely definitely is not the case. It looks like a little of both to me. However it's impossible to argue that healthcare reform hasn't totally messed up full time employment. It's now much less expensive to hire two 20 hour workers than one 40 hour worker. Simple fact
    Read up on FTEs, or full time equivalents. Those 2 20 workers are the exact same as 1 40 hour worker.
    Let me help you dumbmotherfucker with a math equation. I'll type slow so you can follow along.


    1 40-hour work must be paid hourly plus obamacare.

    2 20-hour works must be paid hourly only


    therefore the cost of

    1 40-hour work is > 2 20-hour workers



    Hope this helps. But I'm not holding me breath.
    Show me where it says any employer has to pay one penny for the cost of insurance to any employee.

    You are fucking stupid. Read the bill.
    Since you are johnny on the spot, why don't you produce the line-item citation for all of us to see?

    We'll wait patiently, but per usual we won't expect much.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Thursday's monthly jobs report from the government showed that employers added a solid 223,000 jobs in June and that the unemployment rate fell to 5.3 percent from 5.5 percent in May. Even so, the generally improving job market still bears traits that have long been regarded as weaknesses.

    The unemployment rate didn't fall in June because more people were hired. The rate fell solely because the number of people who had become dispirited and stopped looking for work far exceeded the number who found jobs.


    I'm confused. Is there more jobs or not?

    Solely definitely is not the case. It looks like a little of both to me. However it's impossible to argue that healthcare reform hasn't totally messed up full time employment. It's now much less expensive to hire two 20 hour workers than one 40 hour worker. Simple fact
    Read up on FTEs, or full time equivalents. Those 2 20 workers are the exact same as 1 40 hour worker.
    Let me help you dumbmotherfucker with a math equation. I'll type slow so you can follow along.


    1 40-hour work must be paid hourly plus obamacare.

    2 20-hour works must be paid hourly only


    therefore the cost of

    1 40-hour work is > 2 20-hour workers



    Hope this helps. But I'm not holding me breath.
    Show me where it says any employer has to pay one penny for the cost of insurance to any employee.

    You are fucking stupid. Read the bill.
    Since you are johnny on the spot, why don't you produce the line-item citation for all of us to see?

    We'll wait patiently, but per usual we won't expect much.
    http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-employer-mandate/
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Thursday's monthly jobs report from the government showed that employers added a solid 223,000 jobs in June and that the unemployment rate fell to 5.3 percent from 5.5 percent in May. Even so, the generally improving job market still bears traits that have long been regarded as weaknesses.

    The unemployment rate didn't fall in June because more people were hired. The rate fell solely because the number of people who had become dispirited and stopped looking for work far exceeded the number who found jobs.


    I'm confused. Is there more jobs or not?

    Solely definitely is not the case. It looks like a little of both to me. However it's impossible to argue that healthcare reform hasn't totally messed up full time employment. It's now much less expensive to hire two 20 hour workers than one 40 hour worker. Simple fact
    Read up on FTEs, or full time equivalents. Those 2 20 workers are the exact same as 1 40 hour worker.
    Let me help you dumbmotherfucker with a math equation. I'll type slow so you can follow along.


    1 40-hour work must be paid hourly plus obamacare.

    2 20-hour works must be paid hourly only


    therefore the cost of

    1 40-hour work is > 2 20-hour workers



    Hope this helps. But I'm not holding me breath.
    Show me where it says any employer has to pay one penny for the cost of insurance to any employee.

    You are fucking stupid. Read the bill.
    Since you are johnny on the spot, why don't you produce the line-item citation for all of us to see?

    We'll wait patiently, but per usual we won't expect much.
    http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-employer-mandate/
    Pay the insurance or pay the penalty if you have over 50 employees. Seems pretty simple to me. You might want to read your own link next time dummy.
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    Pretty funny when a dipshit drives his BS right into a wall
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Thursday's monthly jobs report from the government showed that employers added a solid 223,000 jobs in June and that the unemployment rate fell to 5.3 percent from 5.5 percent in May. Even so, the generally improving job market still bears traits that have long been regarded as weaknesses.

    The unemployment rate didn't fall in June because more people were hired. The rate fell solely because the number of people who had become dispirited and stopped looking for work far exceeded the number who found jobs.


    I'm confused. Is there more jobs or not?

    Solely definitely is not the case. It looks like a little of both to me. However it's impossible to argue that healthcare reform hasn't totally messed up full time employment. It's now much less expensive to hire two 20 hour workers than one 40 hour worker. Simple fact
    Read up on FTEs, or full time equivalents. Those 2 20 workers are the exact same as 1 40 hour worker.
    Let me help you dumbmotherfucker with a math equation. I'll type slow so you can follow along.


    1 40-hour work must be paid hourly plus obamacare.

    2 20-hour works must be paid hourly only


    therefore the cost of

    1 40-hour work is > 2 20-hour workers



    Hope this helps. But I'm not holding me breath.
    Show me where it says any employer has to pay one penny for the cost of insurance to any employee.

    You are fucking stupid. Read the bill.
    Since you are johnny on the spot, why don't you produce the line-item citation for all of us to see?

    We'll wait patiently, but per usual we won't expect much.
    http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-employer-mandate/
    Pay the insurance or pay the penalty if you have over 50 employees. Seems pretty simple to me. You might want to read your own link next time dummy.
    Are you that FS?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Thursday's monthly jobs report from the government showed that employers added a solid 223,000 jobs in June and that the unemployment rate fell to 5.3 percent from 5.5 percent in May. Even so, the generally improving job market still bears traits that have long been regarded as weaknesses.

    The unemployment rate didn't fall in June because more people were hired. The rate fell solely because the number of people who had become dispirited and stopped looking for work far exceeded the number who found jobs.


    I'm confused. Is there more jobs or not?

    Solely definitely is not the case. It looks like a little of both to me. However it's impossible to argue that healthcare reform hasn't totally messed up full time employment. It's now much less expensive to hire two 20 hour workers than one 40 hour worker. Simple fact
    Read up on FTEs, or full time equivalents. Those 2 20 workers are the exact same as 1 40 hour worker.
    Let me help you dumbmotherfucker with a math equation. I'll type slow so you can follow along.


    1 40-hour work must be paid hourly plus obamacare.

    2 20-hour works must be paid hourly only


    therefore the cost of

    1 40-hour work is > 2 20-hour workers



    Hope this helps. But I'm not holding me breath.
    Show me where it says any employer has to pay one penny for the cost of insurance to any employee.

    You are fucking stupid. Read the bill.
    Since you are johnny on the spot, why don't you produce the line-item citation for all of us to see?

    We'll wait patiently, but per usual we won't expect much.
    http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-employer-mandate/
    Pay the insurance or pay the penalty if you have over 50 employees. Seems pretty simple to me. You might want to read your own link next time dummy.
    Are you that FS?
    Code for "I've got nothing"
    Read for comprehension.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I really hope both Honda and d2d are trolling us. I weep for humanity that there are actually dumb fuck that eat up everything their preferred political party tells them.

    Refute one fact I've posted.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    2001400ex said:

    I really hope both Honda and d2d are trolling us. I weep for humanity that there are actually dumb fuck that eat up everything their preferred political party tells them.

    Refute one fact I've posted.
    The fact sheet is correct, but your interpretation and reading comprehension is where life has failed you.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,476 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    I really hope both Honda and d2d are trolling us. I weep for humanity that there are actually dumb fuck that eat up everything their preferred political party tells them.

    Refute one fact I've posted.
    Talking Points and hyperlinks aren't 'facts'. HTH
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,476 Founders Club

    2001400ex said:

    I really hope both Honda and d2d are trolling us. I weep for humanity that there are actually dumb fuck that eat up everything their preferred political party tells them.

    Refute one fact I've posted.
    The fact sheet is correct, but your interpretation and reading comprehension is where life has failed you.
    Real world experience and critical application are woefully sorry as well.


    Again, how much do you make a a paid political message bored shill? Is it enough to live out of mommy's basement?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    I really hope both Honda and d2d are trolling us. I weep for humanity that there are actually dumb fuck that eat up everything their preferred political party tells them.

    Refute one fact I've posted.
    The fact sheet is correct, but your interpretation and reading comprehension is where life has failed you.
    Real world experience and critical application are woefully sorry as well.


    Again, how much do you make a a paid political message bored shill? Is it enough to live out of mommy's basement?
    You brought jokes? Lol yet neither of you have refuted a fact. Nice work.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    So when again are you going to refute a single fact? I've been waiting for months...

    And yes, this is the new normal until overall govt policy changes...and who knows when that will be.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    So when again are you going to refute a single fact? I've been waiting for months...

    And yes, this is the new normal until overall govt policy changes...and who knows when that will be.

    You do realize that your own source using your metrics showed that the Republican years of 2001-2007, using conservative philosophies of cutting taxes and going into war, only brought hours worked to what they were when Clinton left office.

    Sorry you don't like your own facts.

    But let's try this. What would you do to fix the situation?
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,476 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    So when again are you going to refute a single fact? I've been waiting for months...

    And yes, this is the new normal until overall govt policy changes...and who knows when that will be.

    You do realize that your own source using your metrics showed that the Republican years of 2001-2007, using conservative philosophies of cutting taxes and going into war, only brought hours worked to what they were when Clinton left office.

    Sorry you don't like your own facts.

    But let's try this. What would you do to fix the situation?
    Is easy really. You make health insurers and providers compete for the business. Single prayer.

    Or scrap it all together.



    As it sits, you championed an artificial monopoly - even an idiot in his first week of econ 101 knows - which only benefits said providers/insurers.

    What's worse is the middle class you claim to espouse for bears the overwhelming majority of that burden.

    #thanksobama
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    How many wars has Obama started?

  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685

    How many wars has Obama started?

    The O/U is always 5.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    2001400ex said:

    So when again are you going to refute a single fact? I've been waiting for months...

    And yes, this is the new normal until overall govt policy changes...and who knows when that will be.

    You do realize that your own source using your metrics showed that the Republican years of 2001-2007, using conservative philosophies of cutting taxes and going into war, only brought hours worked to what they were when Clinton left office.

    Sorry you don't like your own facts.

    But let's try this. What would you do to fix the situation?
    Huh? Govt shrunk under Bush? Additional govt programs like expanded Medicare didn't happen? Clinton didn't run bombing campaigns throughout Europe and the Middle East?

    And Bush had lots of problems...he did some good and some bad...but nobody (sans you since you are a babbling moron) holds him up as an government conservative. But at least he didn't murder the median income the way Obama has.

    image

    God you are a moron.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    So when again are you going to refute a single fact? I've been waiting for months...

    And yes, this is the new normal until overall govt policy changes...and who knows when that will be.

    You do realize that your own source using your metrics showed that the Republican years of 2001-2007, using conservative philosophies of cutting taxes and going into war, only brought hours worked to what they were when Clinton left office.

    Sorry you don't like your own facts.

    But let's try this. What would you do to fix the situation?
    Huh? Govt shrunk under Bush? Additional govt programs like expanded Medicare didn't happen? Clinton didn't run bombing campaigns throughout Europe and the Middle East?

    And Bush had lots of problems...he did some good and some bad...but nobody (sans you since you are a babbling moron) holds him up as an government conservative. But at least he didn't murder the median income the way Obama has.

    image

    God you are a moron.
    Weird, the worst recession in 80 years cause median incomes to drop. Notice how you don't extend the chart out to 2015. More misinformation.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,108 Founders Club
    Maybe a third term would fix things
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Maybe a third term would fix things

    You don't fix shit overnight after Owen 12.