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  • MuttzenMuttzen Member Posts: 1,015
    But how would having money make my life easier?
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    “aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    how can you be such a bad personnnnnnnnnnnnnn

    No, sorry, a personal attack was unnecessary.

    PAULA'S PARENTS CANNOT HELP HER WITH SCHOOLWORK BECAUSE THEY NEED TO WORK LATE HOURS AND PAY THE RENT.

    Like, period. Like, they can't. They can't help her with schoolwork. They need to pay rent.

    They are not as highly compensated at their jobs as the other dude's parents are, so they need to work at them for more hours.

    Or they would be kicked out of their apartment.

    Like.... I don't........

    What exactly about that basic fact is unclear to you?

    Wait, is this trolling?

    IS THIS WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE TROLLED?

    1) I can't actually tell if you are the the problem with society or if this is some kind of disruptivist performance art

    2) If it is disruptivist performance art, that doesn't make you not an elitist” — Emily Carmichael
  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 5,178 Standard Supporter
    The two scenarios are certainly polar opposites and the balance of most people is somewhere in the middle. I still think that, by emphasizing "privilege", people are wrongly focusing on explaining away overall success rather than developing ideas to help the less fortunate help themselves.

    Regardless, it's a lot easier to spend a few hours writing a cartoon than conceiving, implementing, and then operating long-term programs. It's also a lot easier for people to write comments on the internet than volunteering at one's local community center, women's shelter, or foster care organization.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,799
    New Zealand On Air is your source??
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    HFNY said:

    The two scenarios are certainly polar opposites and the balance of most people is somewhere in the middle. I still think that, by emphasizing "privilege", people are wrongly focusing on explaining away overall success rather than developing ideas to help the less fortunate help themselves.

    Regardless, it's a lot easier to spend a few hours writing a cartoon than conceiving, implementing, and then operating long-term programs. It's also a lot easier for people to write comments on the internet than volunteering at one's local community center, women's shelter, or foster care organization.

    A couple of valid poonts there @HFNY .

    I linked the cartoon because, I had no idea what "white privilege" meant when people brought it up here, there and everywhere these days. I'd say that calling it "white privilege" is too narrow and that "privilege" can come from many other factors than race. There is a class system out there and it's very difficult for some to rise above. Contrarily, it is much easier for others to succeed. @HFNY is right that the cartoon shows two polar opposites and most people fall somewhere in the middle.

    The cartoonist, at least for me, depicted how privilege affects people and helped to clarify what it means to be privileged. I see a lot of myself in the white successful guy and very little of the disadvantaged person. As a white male, I guess I have "white privilege" and it's a good thing to think about how others are living and treat them with empathy and compassion.

    I won the state-wide pick 3 lottery when I was born. Very few win the Powerball at birth and the vast majority got a losing scratch ticket at birth.
  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 5,178 Standard Supporter
    I entirely agree.

    Some quick bullet points:

    -I actually appreciated the cartoon even though I'm weary of hearing the term "white privilege" or people saying to "check your privilege" in debates (Exhibit A being that Princeton debate last year).

    -The cartoon is effective because it's not trying to insult / cheapen anyone

    -With that said, how many times do "people of privilege" need to be beaten over the head with the message that all men are not born into the same situation, especially white guys?

    -Ultimately, it's important to be solutions focused which even the cartoon didn't address. For instance, the first example shows how the girl grows up in a damp / cold place which means she gets sick more often. Well how about trying a pilot public / private housing program where people of lesser means (saying average household income below $30k) apply to live in it? Their rent would be based off of their income and they have the option to buy it if they save a certain amount at a future date?

    -If I had to define myself politically, I'd probably be a libertarian / old school NE Business Republican but am not opposed to the city or county trying some of the above (as opposed to the Federal Government). Unless a former military-man like this guy (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Westbrook_(politician)#Mutual_Home_Ownership_Concept) headed it up, I'd be concerned about the politicization of it and Democrats trying to stuff the process with public union sector jobs (and then more union dues $$$$).
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    HFNY said:

    I entirely agree.

    Some quick bullet points:

    -I actually appreciated the cartoon even though I'm weary of hearing the term "white privilege" or people saying to "check your privilege" in debates (Exhibit A being that Princeton debate last year).

    -The cartoon is effective because it's not trying to insult / cheapen anyone

    -With that said, how many times do "people of privilege" need to be beaten over the head with the message that all men are not born into the same situation, especially white guys?

    -Ultimately, it's important to be solutions focused which even the cartoon didn't address. For instance, the first example shows how the girl grows up in a damp / cold place which means she gets sick more often. Well how about trying a pilot public / private housing program where people of lesser means (saying average household income below $30k) apply to live in it? Their rent would be based off of their income and they have the option to buy it if they save a certain amount at a future date?

    -If I had to define myself politically, I'd probably be a libertarian / old school NE Business Republican but am not opposed to the city or county trying some of the above (as opposed to the Federal Government). Unless a former military-man like this guy (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Westbrook_(politician)#Mutual_Home_Ownership_Concept) headed it up, I'd be concerned about the politicization of it and Democrats trying to stuff the process with public union sector jobs (and then more union dues $$$$).

    Utah seems to be onto something:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/this-state-may-be-the-first-to-end-homelessness-for-good-2015-2

    https://jobs.utah.gov/housing/scso/documents/homelessness2014.pdf
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited June 2015
    TheGlove said:

    HFNY said:

    I entirely agree.

    Some quick bullet points:

    -I actually appreciated the cartoon even though I'm weary of hearing the term "white privilege" or people saying to "check your privilege" in debates (Exhibit A being that Princeton debate last year).

    -The cartoon is effective because it's not trying to insult / cheapen anyone

    -With that said, how many times do "people of privilege" need to be beaten over the head with the message that all men are not born into the same situation, especially white guys?

    -Ultimately, it's important to be solutions focused which even the cartoon didn't address. For instance, the first example shows how the girl grows up in a damp / cold place which means she gets sick more often. Well how about trying a pilot public / private housing program where people of lesser means (saying average household income below $30k) apply to live in it? Their rent would be based off of their income and they have the option to buy it if they save a certain amount at a future date?

    -If I had to define myself politically, I'd probably be a libertarian / old school NE Business Republican but am not opposed to the city or county trying some of the above (as opposed to the Federal Government). Unless a former military-man like this guy (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Westbrook_(politician)#Mutual_Home_Ownership_Concept) headed it up, I'd be concerned about the politicization of it and Democrats trying to stuff the process with public union sector jobs (and then more union dues $$$$).

    Utah seems to be onto something:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/this-state-may-be-the-first-to-end-homelessness-for-good-2015-2

    https://jobs.utah.gov/housing/scso/documents/homelessness2014.pdf
    but (sputters) SOCIALISM!!!

    so, if that's Republican Utah... what's Liberal New York City doin?
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