doogman's lovefest over cozetto

dhdawg

I keep hearing on the radio about his "tough love," and his "old school mentality" like it's so great. While completely ignoring his shitty recruiting and poor developement

[Deleted User]

You don't want to see Cozetto when he's upset! You might want to take your complaints to the OL board or you just won't be posting here anymore.

RoadDawg55

He_Needs_More_Time said:

You don't want to see Cozetto when he's upset! You might want to take your complaints to the OL board or you just won't be posting here anymore.

The first time I ever saw Kim say that about Cozzetto, it was directed at me. I told him I wouldn't want to see Nick Holt angry either.

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RoadDawg55 said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

You don't want to see Cozetto when he's upset! You might want to take your complaints to the OL board or you just won't be posting here anymore.

The first time I ever saw Kim say that about Cozzetto, it was directed at me. I told him I wouldn't want to see Nick Holt angry either.

Yea I couldn't understand that statement ever. Who wants to see anyone mad you dumb fuck?

I want to know if he can coach and his history for a decade plus now shows he can't.

CheersWestDawg

Kim defends Cozz like he's his first born. After Cozz got fired by Gilby after the 2003 season, they couldn't talk enough shit about Cozzetto. Back then Cozz was an asshole, too tough on the kids, put them down, etc.

This time around, he's Pat Hill TUFF and gets the most out of his talent. Why the change? Because Cozzetto has given them a few interviews and off the record bullshit. It's just lather, rinse, and repeat with Kim and the rest of the Doogman crew.

[Deleted User]

CheersWestDawg said:

Kim defends Cozz like he's his first born. After Cozz got fired by Gilby after the 2003 season, they couldn't talk enough shit about Cozzetto. Back then Cozz was an asshole, too tough on the kids, put them down, etc.

This time around, he's Pat Hill TUFF and gets the most out of his talent. Why the change? Because Cozzetto has given them a few interviews and off the record bullshit. It's just lather, rinse, and repeat with Kim and the rest of the Doogman crew.

Those guys only care about access they don't give a fuck if UW has a good program or a shitty one as long as the coach gives them access.

It's rather pathetic.

IrishDawg22

Now I can get on board with this bitching. The game has passed Cozz by and you can see by the results that the TOP rated lineman do not want to play for him.

And I don't think he is a great teacher. Run blocking is a basic technique to teach, but pass blocking is more complex. That is why we have had success in the run game, but cannot protect the QB from the girl scouts.

The little known factor behind the Ducks success is the ability of Steve Greatwood to adapt to the modern game and his development of talent.

I would give one of your guys left nut to get him up here.

DugtheDoog

IrishDawg22 said:

Now I can get on board with this bitching. The game has passed Cozz by and you can see by the results that the TOP rated lineman do not want to play for him.

Kim's go-to counter argument is that a few idiots said that about Randy Hart. As if because some clueless fans said the same thing about Randy Hart, it automatically makes it not true about Cozzetto.

RoadDawg55

He_Needs_More_Time said:

CheersWestDawg said:

Kim defends Cozz like he's his first born. After Cozz got fired by Gilby after the 2003 season, they couldn't talk enough shit about Cozzetto. Back then Cozz was an asshole, too tough on the kids, put them down, etc.

This time around, he's Pat Hill TUFF and gets the most out of his talent. Why the change? Because Cozzetto has given them a few interviews and off the record bullshit. It's just lather, rinse, and repeat with Kim and the rest of the Doogman crew.

Those guys only care about access they don't give a fuck if UW has a good program or a shitty one as long as the coach gives them access.

It's rather pathetic.

If Kim just admitted that he can't criticize the program people would understand. Instead when he gets called out for this shit he says he has no problem criticizing coaches. So why hasn't he done it even one time during Sark's regime? He never does it until the coaches leave (Holt, Cox). If we were Rose Bowl contenders every year, I might understand, but these 7-6 teams have had plenty to criticize. His dishonesty is what is most annoying.

Dawgs4321 is a Cozzetto fan, but he had solid, logical reason why. I can respect that versus what Kim does. Kim just says, "You wouldn't want to see him mad." "His former players at ASU love him." None of it has anything to do if he is doing a good job as our OL coach. Once again though, we are wasting our time with Cozzetto. I think we could do much better, but Sark is the real problem. I really hope Cozzetto doesn't get fired after the year and becomes another scapegoat for our piece of shit head coach.

[Deleted User]

RoadDawg55 said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

CheersWestDawg said:

Kim defends Cozz like he's his first born. After Cozz got fired by Gilby after the 2003 season, they couldn't talk enough shit about Cozzetto. Back then Cozz was an asshole, too tough on the kids, put them down, etc.

This time around, he's Pat Hill TUFF and gets the most out of his talent. Why the change? Because Cozzetto has given them a few interviews and off the record bullshit. It's just lather, rinse, and repeat with Kim and the rest of the Doogman crew.

Those guys only care about access they don't give a fuck if UW has a good program or a shitty one as long as the coach gives them access.

It's rather pathetic.

If Kim just admitted that he can't criticize the program people would understand. Instead when he gets called out for this shit he says he has no problem criticizing coaches. So why hasn't he done it even one time during Sark's regime? He never does it until the coaches leave (Holt, Cox). If we were Rose Bowl contenders every year, I might understand, but these 7-6 teams have had plenty to criticize. His dishonesty is what is most annoying.

Dawgs4321 is a Cozzetto fan, but he had solid, logical reason why. I can respect that versus what Kim does. Kim just says, "You wouldn't want to see him mad." "His former players at ASU love him." None of it has anything to do if he is doing a good job as our OL coach. Once again though, we are wasting our time with Cozzetto. I think we could do much better, but Sark is the real problem. I really hope Cozzetto doesn't get fired after the year and becomes another scapegoat for our piece of shit head coach.

I believe most on here get it when it comes to the OL and that is why we don't bitch about Cozzetto. We understand it starts at the top.

Sark/Cozzetto have failed to bring in top OL recruits or coach them up. Sark has brought in three 4 star OL recruits so far. Porter appeared to be the real deal and it was unfortunate what happened to him. The other two with Kohler and Hatchie haven't lived up to it yet. Cozzetto is failing to coach them up.

One gripe I have with Cozzetto or maybe it's Sark telling him to do that is trying to make every OL a jack of all trades. Every OL learns all 5 positions like Kohler is a good example as he is constantly being moved around. If you had Kohler just focus on being a tackle or a guard every day by his third year and especially his fourth year he'd be pretty solid if you are half way decent of a teacher.

RoadDawg55

DugtheDoog said:

IrishDawg22 said:

Now I can get on board with this bitching. The game has passed Cozz by and you can see by the results that the TOP rated lineman do not want to play for him.

Kim's go-to counter argument is that a few idiots said that about Randy Hart. As if because some clueless fans said the same thing about Randy Hart, it automatically makes it not true about Cozzetto.

The thing is, if Cozzetto's health permits him, he could have a revival like Hart if he works for the right head coach. If it is true that Sark puts no effort into OL recruits until they get an offer, he is working at a serious disadvantage. When I learned that, it gave me some perspective about what he is working against. Sometimes coaches lose the edge over time, but Cozzetto has been a coach for a long time. He knows football and he knows how to coach the OL. I would love to be a fly on the wall when Cozzetto talks to his coaching buddies about Sark.

DugtheDoog

RoadDawg55 said:

DugtheDoog said:

IrishDawg22 said:

Now I can get on board with this bitching. The game has passed Cozz by and you can see by the results that the TOP rated lineman do not want to play for him.

Kim's go-to counter argument is that a few idiots said that about Randy Hart. As if because some clueless fans said the same thing about Randy Hart, it automatically makes it not true about Cozzetto.

The thing is, if Cozzetto's health permits him, he could have a revival like Hart if he works for the right head coach. If it is true that Sark puts no effort into OL recruits until they get an offer, he is working at a serious disadvantage. When I learned that, it gave me some perspective about what he is working against. Sometimes coaches lose the edge over time, but Cozzetto has been a coach for a long time. He knows football and he knows how to coach the OL. I would love to be a fly on the wall when Cozzetto talks to his coaching buddies about Sark.

I don't necessarily disagree with you there. Whether it's Sark, Cozzetto or both, it's glaringly obvious to anyone who has eyes and some sort of reasoning ability that there is a problem along the offensive line when it comes to recruiting and coaching. The thing that's so annoying is that Kim tries to pretend like everything's peachy and if you express concern he tells you to go kick your dog or something. I've gotten banned so many times for insinuating they paint things rosy to get program access. Which, like others have said, if he comes out and says "hey guys, the AD's going to revoke our practice privileges if you don't tone things down," I would understand where he's coming from. But to act like anyone who sees a glaringly obvious problem is a miserable fuck who needs to "step down from the ledge"...somebody needs to give that guy a black eye.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

RoadDawg55 said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

CheersWestDawg said:

Kim defends Cozz like he's his first born. After Cozz got fired by Gilby after the 2003 season, they couldn't talk enough shit about Cozzetto. Back then Cozz was an asshole, too tough on the kids, put them down, etc.

This time around, he's Pat Hill TUFF and gets the most out of his talent. Why the change? Because Cozzetto has given them a few interviews and off the record bullshit. It's just lather, rinse, and repeat with Kim and the rest of the Doogman crew.

Those guys only care about access they don't give a fuck if UW has a good program or a shitty one as long as the coach gives them access.

It's rather pathetic.

If Kim just admitted that he can't criticize the program people would understand. Instead when he gets called out for this shit he says he has no problem criticizing coaches. So why hasn't he done it even one time during Sark's regime? He never does it until the coaches leave (Holt, Cox). If we were Rose Bowl contenders every year, I might understand, but these 7-6 teams have had plenty to criticize. His dishonesty is what is most annoying.

Dawgs4321 is a Cozzetto fan, but he had solid, logical reason why. I can respect that versus what Kim does. Kim just says, "You wouldn't want to see him mad." "His former players at ASU love him." None of it has anything to do if he is doing a good job as our OL coach. Once again though, we are wasting our time with Cozzetto. I think we could do much better, but Sark is the real problem. I really hope Cozzetto doesn't get fired after the year and becomes another scapegoat for our piece of shit head coach.

Aside from DJ's (I like to call Derek DJ, it's what I like to do) Willingham book, how many times have you seen a player publicly say he didn't like a coach?

Every time I hear a player say, "Coach X is the best coach I've ever played for!" I question how many coaches has he played for?

[Deleted User]

Even during the Ty years we were told how much the players loved him.

Why I never put stock in that line.

bananasnblondes

RoadDawg55 said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

CheersWestDawg said:

Kim defends Cozz like he's his first born. After Cozz got fired by Gilby after the 2003 season, they couldn't talk enough shit about Cozzetto. Back then Cozz was an asshole, too tough on the kids, put them down, etc.

This time around, he's Pat Hill TUFF and gets the most out of his talent. Why the change? Because Cozzetto has given them a few interviews and off the record bullshit. It's just lather, rinse, and repeat with Kim and the rest of the Doogman crew.

Those guys only care about access they don't give a fuck if UW has a good program or a shitty one as long as the coach gives them access.

It's rather pathetic.

If Kim just admitted that he can't criticize the program people would understand. Instead when he gets called out for this shit he says he has no problem criticizing coaches. So why hasn't he done it even one time during Sark's regime? He never does it until the coaches leave (Holt, Cox). If we were Rose Bowl contenders every year, I might understand, but these 7-6 teams have had plenty to criticize. His dishonesty is what is most annoying.

Dawgs4321 is a Cozzetto fan, but he had solid, logical reason why. I can respect that versus what Kim does. Kim just says, "You wouldn't want to see him mad." "His former players at ASU love him." None of it has anything to do if he is doing a good job as our OL coach. Once again though, we are wasting our time with Cozzetto. I think we could do much better, but Sark is the real problem. I really hope Cozzetto doesn't get fired after the year and becomes another scapegoat for our piece of shit head coach.

Oh, Kim and Eklund will have plenty of criticism for Cozzetto one he is fired. Just like they will criticize Sark if he is fired. They do the same thing with recruits, they heap praise on them until they sign with another school and then they attack their work ethic,family life, intelligence, etc. Just today there was a thread about a FREAKIN WALK-ON named Turman who was originally going to walk-on at UW and instead went to WSU but decided not to play football. Of course Kim had to jump in and tell everybody how he knew this would happen all along and the kid was a salesman and was only interested in conning schools into giving him a scholarship.

puppylove_sugarsteel

I love Coz!