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Chipotle goes GMO free - others to follow?

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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    I'm not too educated on this stuff. I always get bored whenever I read about it. GMO is supposedly this huge danger, but life expectancy in the US (and the rest of the world) slowly keeps increasing. The outrage seems more based on fear than anything factual.

    http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.IN/countries/1W-US?display=graph
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,231
    edited May 2015
    I don't give two shits about GMO crops, but the idea the genetic engineering and cross-breeding are the same is fucking stupid.

    If you could cross-breed a dog and a fish, that might be on the same level - or if you could cross-breed a cow and an aphid, that would be similar. Even in plants, the crossbreeding isn't similar. You aren't crossing an orange and tangerine to make a tangelo - you're crossbreeding an apple tree, and the genetic material from an algae or something. It's not the same kind of gene-swapping that's been going on.


    I'm not sure the idea of inserting genes that make corn produce its own insecticide and become glyphosate -resistant sounds all that appealing, but I don't really see an evidence that there are adverse effects - other than bedwetters doing their normal bedwetting.

    If you eat natural food, you'll just die of natural cancer.
  • d2dd2d Member Posts: 3,109
    dflea said:

    I don't give two shits about GMO crops, but the idea the genetic engineering and cross-breeding are the same is fucking stupid.

    If you could cross-breed a dog and a fish, that might be on the same level - or if you could cross-breed a cow and an aphid, that would be similar.

    I'm not sure the idea of inserting genes that make corn produce its own insecticide and become glyphosate -resistant sounds all that appealing, but I don't really see an evidence that there are adverse effects - other than bedwetters doing their normal bedwetting.

    If you eat natural food, you'll just die of natural cancer.

    From someone whose family has been cross-breeding for generations.
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  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,709 Founders Club
    The fact that 60 cuntries have banned GMOs is still concerning.

    Red flags and all.

  • d2dd2d Member Posts: 3,109
    All I know is, I cut gluten and GMO's out as much as possible and I feel better, sleep better.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,391 Founders Club
    The fuck is a GMO?
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,231
    d2d said:

    All I know is, I cut gluten and GMO's out as much as possible and I feel better, sleep better.

    I'm sure it's not the placebo effect.......................

  • MuttzenMuttzen Member Posts: 1,015
    edited May 2015
    dflea said:

    d2d said:

    All I know is, I cut gluten and GMO's out as much as possible and I feel better, sleep better.

    I'm sure it's not the placebo effect.......................

    It might not be, but its probably not the gluten doing it. It's the FODMAPs. These will tend to be in more "junky" food, which also tends to have gluten. Hence, if you cut gluten out of your diet, you will probably feel better.

    Unless you actually have Celiac disease, in which case you really do need to cut gluten out of your diet or you will kill your intestinal lining.
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Swaye said:

    The fuck is a GMO?

    abbreviation for Geronimo... duh.
  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 4,735 Standard Supporter
    That's a good point and I certainly wasn't suggesting they are the same.

    10-15 years ago, GMO efforts appeared to be focused on (for instance) how to make tomatoes grow in mostly unhospitable soil and make the tomatoes more tolerant to naturally present salt and a relative lack of water. Now companies are pushing the limits beyond that to franken-crops.

    I think there more scientific discussion of a rating system for GMO's. The tomatoes I mentioned above would be probably be a 2 or 3 on a 1-10 scale while apple trees with genetic material from algae may be a 5. Corn producing its own insecticide would probably be an 8, 9, or 10.
    dflea said:

    I don't give two shits about GMO crops, but the idea the genetic engineering and cross-breeding are the same is fucking stupid.

    If you could cross-breed a dog and a fish, that might be on the same level - or if you could cross-breed a cow and an aphid, that would be similar. Even in plants, the crossbreeding isn't similar. You aren't crossing an orange and tangerine to make a tangelo - you're crossbreeding an apple tree, and the genetic material from an algae or something. It's not the same kind of gene-swapping that's been going on.


    I'm not sure the idea of inserting genes that make corn produce its own insecticide and become glyphosate -resistant sounds all that appealing, but I don't really see an evidence that there are adverse effects - other than bedwetters doing their normal bedwetting.

    If you eat natural food, you'll just die of natural cancer.

  • OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited May 2015
    HFNY said:

    Hasn't mankind engaged in a form of genetically modified organisms / seeds for hundreds of years (if not thousands)?

    Not in the same way that the GMO process works. What mankind has done includes things like selective breading, and encouraging pollen from one plant to pollinate the flowers from another closely related plant, and over time encouraging the best of the results to breed again. Both of these have been occurring for thousands of years, and fit within what nature itself does. It has produced new breeds of dogs, cows, strains of corn, flowers, etc, etc, etc.

    GMO, is the process of chemically extracting genes from an organism, modifying them in a lab with various organic and inorganic compounds, and then inserting them into another organism, sometimes not related in any way to the original organism. What is produced, in many cases, would never have been produced in nature.

    To me, a good analogy to the dislike of GMO is similar to people that dislike polyester fabric in favor of natural fabrics like cotton, silk, or wool.

    in conclusion, if you want to eat polyester, feel free, but many of us don't want to. Thank you.

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