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Chipotle goes GMO free - others to follow?

pawz
pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,480 Founders Club
edited May 2015 in Tug Tavern
theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2876517/as_chipotle_goes_gmofree_monsantos_worst_fear_is_coming_true.html

I read more than the headline. The Ecologist is my source.


Chipotle is giving consumers what they want. Market economics 101.

Will the rest of fast food have to follow?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,166 Founders Club
    My dog eats gluten free food

    I guess I am a Californian
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,402
    Hasn't mankind engaged in a form of genetically modified organisms / seeds for hundreds of years (if not thousands)?

    Mankind has invariably sought to grow wheat, corn, and other crops bigger / better to increase their yields and hardiness:

    economist.com/node/14446742

    economist.com/news/briefing/21601815-another-green-revolution-stirring-worlds-paddy-fields-bigger-rice-bowl
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,402
    Like a lot of things, a happy medium is the best path.

    HFNY said:

    Hasn't mankind engaged in a form of genetically modified organisms / seeds for hundreds of years (if not thousands)?

    Mankind has invariably sought to grow wheat, corn, and other crops bigger / better to increase their yields and hardiness:

    economist.com/node/14446742

    economist.com/news/briefing/21601815-another-green-revolution-stirring-worlds-paddy-fields-bigger-rice-bowl

    Yes. We have. Modification of food is nothing new.

    The idiots on the left will tell you that the GMO food will poison/kill/autism you, even though there is no scientific evidence to support this.

    The idiots on the right will tell you that mass producing GMO "super seeds" that wipe out native seeds is good economics, cuz more is always better. Even though it actually puts our food at risk from a lack of genetic diversity (more susceptible to blight, insects, etc.).

    They also spray a shit ton of chemicals that definitely aren't good for us. But that's another topic.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,480 Founders Club

    HFNY said:

    Hasn't mankind engaged in a form of genetically modified organisms / seeds for hundreds of years (if not thousands)?

    Mankind has invariably sought to grow wheat, corn, and other crops bigger / better to increase their yields and hardiness:

    economist.com/node/14446742

    economist.com/news/briefing/21601815-another-green-revolution-stirring-worlds-paddy-fields-bigger-rice-bowl

    Yes. We have. Modification of food is nothing new.

    The idiots on the left will tell you that the GMO food will poison/kill/autism you, even though there is no scientific evidence to support this.

    The idiots on the right will tell you that mass producing GMO "super seeds" that wipe out native seeds is good economics, cuz more is always better. Even though it actually puts our food at risk from a lack of genetic diversity (more susceptible to blight, insects, etc.).

    They also spray a shit ton of chemicals that definitely aren't good for us. But that's another topic.
    Or that's the main topic.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    pawz said:

    HFNY said:

    Hasn't mankind engaged in a form of genetically modified organisms / seeds for hundreds of years (if not thousands)?

    Mankind has invariably sought to grow wheat, corn, and other crops bigger / better to increase their yields and hardiness:

    economist.com/node/14446742

    economist.com/news/briefing/21601815-another-green-revolution-stirring-worlds-paddy-fields-bigger-rice-bowl

    Yes. We have. Modification of food is nothing new.

    The idiots on the left will tell you that the GMO food will poison/kill/autism you, even though there is no scientific evidence to support this.

    The idiots on the right will tell you that mass producing GMO "super seeds" that wipe out native seeds is good economics, cuz more is always better. Even though it actually puts our food at risk from a lack of genetic diversity (more susceptible to blight, insects, etc.).

    They also spray a shit ton of chemicals that definitely aren't good for us. But that's another topic.
    Or that's the main topic.
    It should be. Sadly, it isn't.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    well when all these different topics appear in the same thread, who gets to decide what the main topic is and what another topic is?
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,480 Founders Club
    edited May 2015

    well when all these different topics appear in the same thread, who gets to decide what the main topic is and what another topic is?

    If you're going to continue hi-jacking my threads fucko, there will be no warning. just gone.

    you're lucky i even poast here at all
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    edited May 2015
    it's as if there's no rules around here anymore.

    even so, I think people should eat what they want.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,480 Founders Club

    it's as if there's no rules around here anymore.

    even so, I think people should eat what they want.

    As long as you have the means to pay for your own healthcare when you develop diabetes and other vascullatory system diseases ... be my guest
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Everything I buy with my ebt card is good for me, right?
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    I love these GMO fags. Most are 50+ lbs overweight.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,480 Founders Club

    Everything I buy with my ebt card is good for me, right?

    Why do you axe me that question? Your eyes are as good as mine
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109

    My dog eats gluten free food

    I guess I am a Californian

    ditto, except the Californication thing.
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109

    Everything I buy with my ebt card is good for me, right?

    Except don't even fucking try to buy toilet paper, hot food, ice for a cooler, or a fucking can opener.
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109

    HFNY said:

    Hasn't mankind engaged in a form of genetically modified organisms / seeds for hundreds of years (if not thousands)?

    Mankind has invariably sought to grow wheat, corn, and other crops bigger / better to increase their yields and hardiness:

    economist.com/node/14446742

    economist.com/news/briefing/21601815-another-green-revolution-stirring-worlds-paddy-fields-bigger-rice-bowl

    Yes. We have. Modification of food is nothing new.

    The idiots on the left will tell you that the GMO food will poison/kill/autism you, even though there is no scientific evidence to support this.

    The idiots on the right will tell you that mass producing GMO "super seeds" that wipe out native seeds is good economics, cuz more is always better. Even though it actually puts our food at risk from a lack of genetic diversity (more susceptible to blight, insects, etc.).

    They also spray a shit ton of chemicals that definitely aren't good for us. But that's another topic.
    Again with the anger issues?
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    d2d said:

    HFNY said:

    Hasn't mankind engaged in a form of genetically modified organisms / seeds for hundreds of years (if not thousands)?

    Mankind has invariably sought to grow wheat, corn, and other crops bigger / better to increase their yields and hardiness:

    economist.com/node/14446742

    economist.com/news/briefing/21601815-another-green-revolution-stirring-worlds-paddy-fields-bigger-rice-bowl

    Yes. We have. Modification of food is nothing new.

    The idiots on the left will tell you that the GMO food will poison/kill/autism you, even though there is no scientific evidence to support this.

    The idiots on the right will tell you that mass producing GMO "super seeds" that wipe out native seeds is good economics, cuz more is always better. Even though it actually puts our food at risk from a lack of genetic diversity (more susceptible to blight, insects, etc.).

    They also spray a shit ton of chemicals that definitely aren't good for us. But that's another topic.
    Again with the anger issues?
    Nobody is angry.

    Try again.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    I love these GMO fags. Most are 50+ lbs overweight.

    And most of them dont even know what GMO stands for.
  • DeepSeaZ
    DeepSeaZ Member Posts: 3,901
    I ate Chipotle today. Burrito. Steak burrito. That's it. That's all I had to share.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    DeepSeaZ said:

    I ate Chipotle today. Burrito. Steak burrito. That's it. That's all I had to share.

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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    I'm not too educated on this stuff. I always get bored whenever I read about it. GMO is supposedly this huge danger, but life expectancy in the US (and the rest of the world) slowly keeps increasing. The outrage seems more based on fear than anything factual.

    http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.IN/countries/1W-US?display=graph
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited May 2015
    I don't give two shits about GMO crops, but the idea the genetic engineering and cross-breeding are the same is fucking stupid.

    If you could cross-breed a dog and a fish, that might be on the same level - or if you could cross-breed a cow and an aphid, that would be similar. Even in plants, the crossbreeding isn't similar. You aren't crossing an orange and tangerine to make a tangelo - you're crossbreeding an apple tree, and the genetic material from an algae or something. It's not the same kind of gene-swapping that's been going on.


    I'm not sure the idea of inserting genes that make corn produce its own insecticide and become glyphosate -resistant sounds all that appealing, but I don't really see an evidence that there are adverse effects - other than bedwetters doing their normal bedwetting.

    If you eat natural food, you'll just die of natural cancer.
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109
    dflea said:

    I don't give two shits about GMO crops, but the idea the genetic engineering and cross-breeding are the same is fucking stupid.

    If you could cross-breed a dog and a fish, that might be on the same level - or if you could cross-breed a cow and an aphid, that would be similar.

    I'm not sure the idea of inserting genes that make corn produce its own insecticide and become glyphosate -resistant sounds all that appealing, but I don't really see an evidence that there are adverse effects - other than bedwetters doing their normal bedwetting.

    If you eat natural food, you'll just die of natural cancer.

    From someone whose family has been cross-breeding for generations.
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,686 Standard Supporter
    The fact that 60 cuntries have banned GMOs is still concerning.

    Red flags and all.

  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109
    All I know is, I cut gluten and GMO's out as much as possible and I feel better, sleep better.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    The fuck is a GMO?
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    d2d said:

    All I know is, I cut gluten and GMO's out as much as possible and I feel better, sleep better.

    I'm sure it's not the placebo effect.......................

  • Muttzen
    Muttzen Member Posts: 1,015
    edited May 2015
    dflea said:

    d2d said:

    All I know is, I cut gluten and GMO's out as much as possible and I feel better, sleep better.

    I'm sure it's not the placebo effect.......................

    It might not be, but its probably not the gluten doing it. It's the FODMAPs. These will tend to be in more "junky" food, which also tends to have gluten. Hence, if you cut gluten out of your diet, you will probably feel better.

    Unless you actually have Celiac disease, in which case you really do need to cut gluten out of your diet or you will kill your intestinal lining.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Swaye said:

    The fuck is a GMO?

    abbreviation for Geronimo... duh.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,402
    That's a good point and I certainly wasn't suggesting they are the same.

    10-15 years ago, GMO efforts appeared to be focused on (for instance) how to make tomatoes grow in mostly unhospitable soil and make the tomatoes more tolerant to naturally present salt and a relative lack of water. Now companies are pushing the limits beyond that to franken-crops.

    I think there more scientific discussion of a rating system for GMO's. The tomatoes I mentioned above would be probably be a 2 or 3 on a 1-10 scale while apple trees with genetic material from algae may be a 5. Corn producing its own insecticide would probably be an 8, 9, or 10.
    dflea said:

    I don't give two shits about GMO crops, but the idea the genetic engineering and cross-breeding are the same is fucking stupid.

    If you could cross-breed a dog and a fish, that might be on the same level - or if you could cross-breed a cow and an aphid, that would be similar. Even in plants, the crossbreeding isn't similar. You aren't crossing an orange and tangerine to make a tangelo - you're crossbreeding an apple tree, and the genetic material from an algae or something. It's not the same kind of gene-swapping that's been going on.


    I'm not sure the idea of inserting genes that make corn produce its own insecticide and become glyphosate -resistant sounds all that appealing, but I don't really see an evidence that there are adverse effects - other than bedwetters doing their normal bedwetting.

    If you eat natural food, you'll just die of natural cancer.