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STP and Scott Weiland

RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
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A week or two ago I saw the video of Scott Weiland singing horribly at a shitty gig that was probably at a bowling alley. It compelled me to give STP a listen. I knew a couple of their radio hits, but was not entirely familiar with their work. These guys were fucking great though, especially the first two albums. Their live show's from the 90's, early 2000's look incredible as well.

How do you compare STP to the other big 90's bands (AIC, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, etc.)?
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,663
    They're always considered a step below all of those bands because they were basically a Seattle copycat act, but their stuff holds up really well. My one hesitancy to rank STP that highly as a great band is Weiland was a totally different vocalist for Velvet Revolver than he was for STP, which lends credence to the idea that STP was just mimicking the Seattle grunge sound. Still, I enjoy their stuff.

    Here's how often I listen to those bands these days:

    Alice
    Nirvana
    STP
    Soundgarden


















    PJ

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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,495 Standard Supporter
    PJ too high.
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,663
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    And here we fucking go again with someone putting a mediocre band above Soundgarden. I'd expect that from an actual duck, but from you @dncfredo?
    image

    Poont of clarification, I don't think STP was a better band that Soundgarden, I just find their stuff more listenable 20+ years later. Soundgarden was definitely more innovative/important/talented.
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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,835
    I didn't dislike STP growing up, but I found many of the other bands a far better listen then as well as now.

    For whatever reason, I've always liked this song from that era:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkwD5rQ-_d4
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  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,391 Founders Club
    Jesus fuckall. 90's rock shit.

    Soundgarden
    Tool
    Alice
    Nirvana






    PJ












    STP
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,495 Standard Supporter
    ^ PJ still way too high.
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  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    And here we fucking go again with someone putting a mediocre band above Soundgarden. I'd expect that from an actual duck, but from you @dncfredo?
    image

    hurtful

    https://youtu.be/CTAud5O7Qqk
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Don't forget Korn. And AIC is 1, tool is 2. Soundgarden/STP/PJ are about equal, all had one good album.
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  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,567 Founders Club
    I think @GrundleStiltzkin is trolling me hard in this thread. It's working.
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  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,709 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Don't forget Korn. And AIC is 1, tool is 2. Soundgarden/STP/PJ are about equal, all had one good album.

    Korn had some really good heavy stuff and I prefer them to Grunge fags. I just can't listen to some of it that much. Dark shit man (I don't even know if I want to continue posting here). I'm already negative enough as is.

    Re: STP

    Core (first mainstream album IIRC) definitely does have more than a tinge of Pearl Jam ripoff to it, but if you include their entire body of work, people make too big of a deal about it.

    They're a really good band.

    I thought RATM was also a kickass 90s band. They definitely had their own unique alternametalrapfunk sound, and it was angry. Their politics are a little out there at times, though nobody can argue they were right about a few people amassing a ton of wealth (and power).
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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Cal is higher than PJ
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  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,231
    2001400ex said:

    Don't forget Korn. And AIC is 1, tool is 2. Soundgarden/STP/PJ are about equal, all had one good album.

    Soundgarden and STP are equal?

    Fuck off.

    Soundgarden is on the top of the Seattle heap, and STP is well below the whole crowd. I'd put Soundgarden and Tool on about equal terms, but never saw Tool live so I can't say for sure they deserve that ranking.

    If you don't kick ass live, you don't kick ass.

    You know who really kicks ass live? Motorhead. Plus Lemmy will punch in your face if you look at him wrong.

    What the fuck happened to Sweet Water? They should have been huge, but kinda petered out. Head Down was a great song.

    Of course, none of them compares to AC/DC- the greatest rock band to ever rock. I put Highway to Hell up against all other albums and no other album ever wins. Of course, I'm the judge every time, so fuck off if you don't like the results.
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  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited May 2015
    dflea said:

    2001400ex said:

    Don't forget Korn. And AIC is 1, tool is 2. Soundgarden/STP/PJ are about equal, all had one good album.

    Soundgarden and STP are equal?

    Fuck off.

    Soundgarden is on the top of the Seattle heap, and STP is well below the whole crowd. I'd put Soundgarden and Tool on about equal terms, but never saw Tool live so I can't say for sure they deserve that ranking.

    If you don't kick ass live, you don't kick ass.

    You know who really kicks ass live? Motorhead. Plus Lemmy will punch in your face if you look at him wrong.

    What the fuck happened to Sweet Water? They should have been huge, but kinda petered out. Head Down was a great song.

    Of course, none of them compares to AC/DC- the greatest rock band to ever rock. I put Highway to Hell up against all other albums and no other album ever wins. Of course, I'm the judge every time, so fuck off if you don't like the results.
    https://youtu.be/GTd1SSYYyss
    https://youtu.be/z3HvchF49AM
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    dflea said:

    2001400ex said:

    Don't forget Korn. And AIC is 1, tool is 2. Soundgarden/STP/PJ are about equal, all had one good album.

    Soundgarden and STP are equal?

    Fuck off.

    Soundgarden is on the top of the Seattle heap, and STP is well below the whole crowd. I'd put Soundgarden and Tool on about equal terms, but never saw Tool live so I can't say for sure they deserve that ranking.

    If you don't kick ass live, you don't kick ass.

    You know who really kicks ass live? Motorhead. Plus Lemmy will punch in your face if you look at him wrong.

    What the fuck happened to Sweet Water? They should have been huge, but kinda petered out. Head Down was a great song.

    Of course, none of them compares to AC/DC- the greatest rock band to ever rock. I put Highway to Hell up against all other albums and no other album ever wins. Of course, I'm the judge every time, so fuck off if you don't like the results.
    I've seen tool live twice, and Soundgarden never. So fuck off.

    Tool is good musically live but Maynard is a fuck stick.
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,663
    pawz said:

    I think @GrundleStiltzkin is trolling me hard in this thread. It's working.

    Give me an ounce of credit, I started it.

    Didn't realize you were a Vedderhead.
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  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,231
    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    2001400ex said:

    Don't forget Korn. And AIC is 1, tool is 2. Soundgarden/STP/PJ are about equal, all had one good album.

    Soundgarden and STP are equal?

    Fuck off.

    Soundgarden is on the top of the Seattle heap, and STP is well below the whole crowd. I'd put Soundgarden and Tool on about equal terms, but never saw Tool live so I can't say for sure they deserve that ranking.

    If you don't kick ass live, you don't kick ass.

    You know who really kicks ass live? Motorhead. Plus Lemmy will punch in your face if you look at him wrong.

    What the fuck happened to Sweet Water? They should have been huge, but kinda petered out. Head Down was a great song.

    Of course, none of them compares to AC/DC- the greatest rock band to ever rock. I put Highway to Hell up against all other albums and no other album ever wins. Of course, I'm the judge every time, so fuck off if you don't like the results.
    I've seen tool live twice, and Soundgarden never. So fuck off.

    Tool is good musically live but Maynard is a fuck stick.

    You were 4 when Soundgarden was in their prime, so fuck off, junior. What the fuck do you know about the 90's - that your mom had to drive you to the shows?
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    dflea said:



    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    2001400ex said:

    Don't forget Korn. And AIC is 1, tool is 2. Soundgarden/STP/PJ are about equal, all had one good album.

    Soundgarden and STP are equal?

    Fuck off.

    Soundgarden is on the top of the Seattle heap, and STP is well below the whole crowd. I'd put Soundgarden and Tool on about equal terms, but never saw Tool live so I can't say for sure they deserve that ranking.

    If you don't kick ass live, you don't kick ass.

    You know who really kicks ass live? Motorhead. Plus Lemmy will punch in your face if you look at him wrong.

    What the fuck happened to Sweet Water? They should have been huge, but kinda petered out. Head Down was a great song.

    Of course, none of them compares to AC/DC- the greatest rock band to ever rock. I put Highway to Hell up against all other albums and no other album ever wins. Of course, I'm the judge every time, so fuck off if you don't like the results.
    I've seen tool live twice, and Soundgarden never. So fuck off.

    Tool is good musically live but Maynard is a fuck stick.

    You were 4 when Soundgarden was in their prime, so fuck off, junior. What the fuck do you know about the 90's - that your mom had to drive you to the shows?
    Your mom didn't bitching and my age dick wad. My 9 inch cock wasn't big enough for what it's worth.
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,663
    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:



    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    2001400ex said:

    Don't forget Korn. And AIC is 1, tool is 2. Soundgarden/STP/PJ are about equal, all had one good album.

    Soundgarden and STP are equal?

    Fuck off.

    Soundgarden is on the top of the Seattle heap, and STP is well below the whole crowd. I'd put Soundgarden and Tool on about equal terms, but never saw Tool live so I can't say for sure they deserve that ranking.

    If you don't kick ass live, you don't kick ass.

    You know who really kicks ass live? Motorhead. Plus Lemmy will punch in your face if you look at him wrong.

    What the fuck happened to Sweet Water? They should have been huge, but kinda petered out. Head Down was a great song.

    Of course, none of them compares to AC/DC- the greatest rock band to ever rock. I put Highway to Hell up against all other albums and no other album ever wins. Of course, I'm the judge every time, so fuck off if you don't like the results.
    I've seen tool live twice, and Soundgarden never. So fuck off.

    Tool is good musically live but Maynard is a fuck stick.

    You were 4 when Soundgarden was in their prime, so fuck off, junior. What the fuck do you know about the 90's - that your mom had to drive you to the shows?
    Your mom didn't bitching and my age dick wad. My 9 inch cock wasn't big enough for what it's worth.
    engrish?
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