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Kasen Williams, four others ensure Washington Huskies well represented at Seahawks’ rookie minicamp

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  • MelloDawgMelloDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,764 Swaye's Wigwam
    HFNY said:

    Pre-injury, I thought KW could've been a #4 or #5 in the NFL.

    Ideally, he lands on a practice squad somewhere and then competes for a roster spot in 2016 after he's 2 years removed from his injury.

    Kearse is a 3 or 4 on a team that is a predominantly passing offense.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812
    PurpleJ said:

    He's 6'3"

    Such fag, DNC.

    We all see who is still buying into 2009 Doogman recruiting hype.

    He's not an inch over 6'1".

  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812

    dnc said:

    priapism said:

    Kasen's strides were way too huge - reminded me of someone about to triple-jump...his ability to change direction instantly was always limited. + with his slowness, I never thought he would get very far in the NFL, even before the injury.

    He probably didn't have the quickness to thrive, but he was absolutely an NFL player his sophomore and junior year. When he was a freshman, he was at times the best WR on the team, even when they had Kearse, Aguilar, and Johnson. He was the only player on the entire offense that did anything against Oregon in 2011.

    Kasen really fucked up by not redshirting last year. He maybe should have thought about graduating and transferring considering the QB and OL situation at UW.
    He was never anything more than a fringe NFL talent at best.
    What part of he probably didn't have the quickness to thrive didn't you understand?

    He was considered an NFL talent before the injury and was listed on top 100 lists before the season.
    link?
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812

    Kasen didn't need quickness to thrive. He's a go up and get the ball receiver who can get yards after the catch. Just watch his highlights before the injury. He was an NFL receiver no doubt. He had plenty of attributes to be an NFL WR. Speed and separation is not mandatory to be a pro WR.

    Honestly, its very sad what happened. He was an NFL talent and the injury killed his career. I only hope for his sake he can keep rehabbing and battling to try and make it.

    You don't have to be quick to be an NFL receiver but you need tob e able to get open. Kasen's inability to get open was going to keep him from ever being anything in the NFL, even before the injury.
  • TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,821
    dnc said:

    You don't have to be quick to be an NFL receiver but you need tob e able to get open. Kasen's inability to get open was going to keep him from ever being anything in the NFL, even before the injury.

    Yes and no. Reggie couldn't get open versus NFL corners, but he was a first round pick.

    I think Kasen was on a similar trajectory, pre-injury: His strength, hops, and collegiate productivity would have inflated his draft stock and made him a bunch of money. But his inability to get open would have kept his NFL career short.

    Basically, Reggie minus the coke habit.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    priapism said:

    Kasen's strides were way too huge - reminded me of someone about to triple-jump...his ability to change direction instantly was always limited. + with his slowness, I never thought he would get very far in the NFL, even before the injury.

    He probably didn't have the quickness to thrive, but he was absolutely an NFL player his sophomore and junior year. When he was a freshman, he was at times the best WR on the team, even when they had Kearse, Aguilar, and Johnson. He was the only player on the entire offense that did anything against Oregon in 2011.

    Kasen really fucked up by not redshirting last year. He maybe should have thought about graduating and transferring considering the QB and OL situation at UW.
    He was never anything more than a fringe NFL talent at best.
    What part of he probably didn't have the quickness to thrive didn't you understand?

    He was considered an NFL talent before the injury and was listed on top 100 lists before the season.
    link?
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    priapism said:

    Kasen's strides were way too huge - reminded me of someone about to triple-jump...his ability to change direction instantly was always limited. + with his slowness, I never thought he would get very far in the NFL, even before the injury.

    He probably didn't have the quickness to thrive, but he was absolutely an NFL player his sophomore and junior year. When he was a freshman, he was at times the best WR on the team, even when they had Kearse, Aguilar, and Johnson. He was the only player on the entire offense that did anything against Oregon in 2011.

    Kasen really fucked up by not redshirting last year. He maybe should have thought about graduating and transferring considering the QB and OL situation at UW.
    He was never anything more than a fringe NFL talent at best.
    What part of he probably didn't have the quickness to thrive didn't you understand?

    He was considered an NFL talent before the injury and was listed on top 100 lists before the season.
    link?
    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24558779/nfl-draft-top-100-prospects

    #91 on this and before the season I remember he was in the 30's on Rob Rang's list.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812
    edited May 2015

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    priapism said:

    Kasen's strides were way too huge - reminded me of someone about to triple-jump...his ability to change direction instantly was always limited. + with his slowness, I never thought he would get very far in the NFL, even before the injury.

    He probably didn't have the quickness to thrive, but he was absolutely an NFL player his sophomore and junior year. When he was a freshman, he was at times the best WR on the team, even when they had Kearse, Aguilar, and Johnson. He was the only player on the entire offense that did anything against Oregon in 2011.

    Kasen really fucked up by not redshirting last year. He maybe should have thought about graduating and transferring considering the QB and OL situation at UW.
    He was never anything more than a fringe NFL talent at best.
    What part of he probably didn't have the quickness to thrive didn't you understand?

    He was considered an NFL talent before the injury and was listed on top 100 lists before the season.
    link?
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    priapism said:

    Kasen's strides were way too huge - reminded me of someone about to triple-jump...his ability to change direction instantly was always limited. + with his slowness, I never thought he would get very far in the NFL, even before the injury.

    He probably didn't have the quickness to thrive, but he was absolutely an NFL player his sophomore and junior year. When he was a freshman, he was at times the best WR on the team, even when they had Kearse, Aguilar, and Johnson. He was the only player on the entire offense that did anything against Oregon in 2011.

    Kasen really fucked up by not redshirting last year. He maybe should have thought about graduating and transferring considering the QB and OL situation at UW.
    He was never anything more than a fringe NFL talent at best.
    What part of he probably didn't have the quickness to thrive didn't you understand?

    He was considered an NFL talent before the injury and was listed on top 100 lists before the season.
    link?
    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24558779/nfl-draft-top-100-prospects

    #91 on this and before the season I remember he was in the 30's on Rob Rang's list.
    Fair enough. Rob Rang was on crack if that's even close to true.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812
    TTJ said:

    dnc said:

    You don't have to be quick to be an NFL receiver but you need tob e able to get open. Kasen's inability to get open was going to keep him from ever being anything in the NFL, even before the injury.

    Yes and no. Reggie couldn't get open versus NFL corners, but he was a first round pick.

    I think Kasen was on a similar trajectory, pre-injury: His strength, hops, and collegiate productivity would have inflated his draft stock and made him a bunch of money. But his inability to get open would have kept his NFL career short.

    Basically, Reggie minus the coke habit, the incredible college career, three inches, and an impressive 40 time.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dnc said:

    TTJ said:

    dnc said:

    You don't have to be quick to be an NFL receiver but you need tob e able to get open. Kasen's inability to get open was going to keep him from ever being anything in the NFL, even before the injury.

    Yes and no. Reggie couldn't get open versus NFL corners, but he was a first round pick.

    I think Kasen was on a similar trajectory, pre-injury: His strength, hops, and collegiate productivity would have inflated his draft stock and made him a bunch of money. But his inability to get open would have kept his NFL career short.

    Basically, Reggie minus the coke habit, the incredible college career, three inches, and an impressive 40 time.
    Ruth took those extra three inches consensually.
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    dnc said:

    priapism said:

    Kasen's strides were way too huge - reminded me of someone about to triple-jump...his ability to change direction instantly was always limited. + with his slowness, I never thought he would get very far in the NFL, even before the injury.

    He probably didn't have the quickness to thrive, but he was absolutely an NFL player his sophomore and junior year. When he was a freshman, he was at times the best WR on the team, even when they had Kearse, Aguilar, and Johnson. He was the only player on the entire offense that did anything against Oregon in 2011.

    Kasen really fucked up by not redshirting last year. He maybe should have thought about graduating and transferring considering the QB and OL situation at UW.
    He was never anything more than a fringe NFL talent at best.
    What part of he probably didn't have the quickness to thrive didn't you understand?

    He was considered an NFL talent before the injury and was listed on top 100 lists before the season.

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    priapism said:

    Kasen's strides were way too huge - reminded me of someone about to triple-jump...his ability to change direction instantly was always limited. + with his slowness, I never thought he would get very far in the NFL, even before the injury.

    He probably didn't have the quickness to thrive, but he was absolutely an NFL player his sophomore and junior year. When he was a freshman, he was at times the best WR on the team, even when they had Kearse, Aguilar, and Johnson. He was the only player on the entire offense that did anything against Oregon in 2011.

    Kasen really fucked up by not redshirting last year. He maybe should have thought about graduating and transferring considering the QB and OL situation at UW.
    He was never anything more than a fringe NFL talent at best.
    What part of he probably didn't have the quickness to thrive didn't you understand?

    He was considered an NFL talent before the injury and was listed on top 100 lists before the season.
    link?
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    priapism said:

    Kasen's strides were way too huge - reminded me of someone about to triple-jump...his ability to change direction instantly was always limited. + with his slowness, I never thought he would get very far in the NFL, even before the injury.

    He probably didn't have the quickness to thrive, but he was absolutely an NFL player his sophomore and junior year. When he was a freshman, he was at times the best WR on the team, even when they had Kearse, Aguilar, and Johnson. He was the only player on the entire offense that did anything against Oregon in 2011.

    Kasen really fucked up by not redshirting last year. He maybe should have thought about graduating and transferring considering the QB and OL situation at UW.
    He was never anything more than a fringe NFL talent at best.
    What part of he probably didn't have the quickness to thrive didn't you understand?

    He was considered an NFL talent before the injury and was listed on top 100 lists before the season.
    link?
    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24558779/nfl-draft-top-100-prospects

    #91 on this and before the season I remember he was in the 30's on Rob Rang's list.
    Yeah... and he was also Scout's #2 receiver in the country coming out of high school. #22 recruit overall. Can you say 'vested interest'?

    The NFL noticed his career 3.3 catches/ game, along with his inability to get open. His NFL career will live forever on Sark's wiki page.
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    He may be the best 90 man roster wr the Hawks have ever signed.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812

    Have to love all the talent scouts on this forum. How much separation do you need in the Red Zone, on a corner fade or an inside slant? Same play goes to Kasen in the SuperBowl and I bet Kasen fights for the ball and doesn't get punked.

    "Pete Carroll was very high on WR Kasen Williams. Sounds like he will get a shot."

    Kasen Williams left a lasting impression: Coach Pete Carroll said after Sunday’s workout that the team hopes to sign the former Husky and Skyline High receiver to a free agent deal after he participated here as a tryout player. I wrote about Williams for the Sunday paper (you can find that story below) and Carroll talked about him following Sunday’s workout. “He looked very good,” Carroll said. “We’ve known him for a long time through the recruiting process and our expectations are that he is a really accomplished receiver. Great athlete getting off the ground and all and he showed all of that . He looked like he fit. So we’ll try to get him back.’’ Seattle has an obvious spot on the 90-man for a receiver after Austin Hill — who as signed as an undrafted free agent — did not pass his physical. So it won’t be a surprise to hear in the next day or so that the team has signed Williams to the 90-man roster. The Seahawks will have a pretty competitive group at receiver with the addition of draftee Tyler Lockett — who was probably the most consistently impressive player here — to the veteran group of Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse, etc. (Lockett had the highlight play of Sunday’s practice on a deep reception for a touchdown from R.J. Archer) But the Seahawks are obviously intrigued by Williams and appear ready to give him a shot.

    So you're saying he might make a 90 man roster?

    Well don't I feel foolish.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,995

    He may be the best 91st man on the 90 man roster ever.

    Fixed. Sad really...I think he would have had a decent nfl career before the injury. Should have redshirted.
  • NeGgaPlEaSeNeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,735
    dnc said:

    Have to love all the talent scouts on this forum. How much separation do you need in the Red Zone, on a corner fade or an inside slant? Same play goes to Kasen in the SuperBowl and I bet Kasen fights for the ball and doesn't get punked.

    "Pete Carroll was very high on WR Kasen Williams. Sounds like he will get a shot."

    Kasen Williams left a lasting impression: Coach Pete Carroll said after Sunday’s workout that the team hopes to sign the former Husky and Skyline High receiver to a free agent deal after he participated here as a tryout player. I wrote about Williams for the Sunday paper (you can find that story below) and Carroll talked about him following Sunday’s workout. “He looked very good,” Carroll said. “We’ve known him for a long time through the recruiting process and our expectations are that he is a really accomplished receiver. Great athlete getting off the ground and all and he showed all of that . He looked like he fit. So we’ll try to get him back.’’ Seattle has an obvious spot on the 90-man for a receiver after Austin Hill — who as signed as an undrafted free agent — did not pass his physical. So it won’t be a surprise to hear in the next day or so that the team has signed Williams to the 90-man roster. The Seahawks will have a pretty competitive group at receiver with the addition of draftee Tyler Lockett — who was probably the most consistently impressive player here — to the veteran group of Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse, etc. (Lockett had the highlight play of Sunday’s practice on a deep reception for a touchdown from R.J. Archer) But the Seahawks are obviously intrigued by Williams and appear ready to give him a shot.

    So you're saying he might make a 90 man roster?

    Well don't I feel foolish.
    You may or may not.... it will be interesting either way
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    dnc said:

    Have to love all the talent scouts on this forum. How much separation do you need in the Red Zone, on a corner fade or an inside slant? Same play goes to Kasen in the SuperBowl and I bet Kasen fights for the ball and doesn't get punked.

    "Pete Carroll was very high on WR Kasen Williams. Sounds like he will get a shot."

    Kasen Williams left a lasting impression: Coach Pete Carroll said after Sunday’s workout that the team hopes to sign the former Husky and Skyline High receiver to a free agent deal after he participated here as a tryout player. I wrote about Williams for the Sunday paper (you can find that story below) and Carroll talked about him following Sunday’s workout. “He looked very good,” Carroll said. “We’ve known him for a long time through the recruiting process and our expectations are that he is a really accomplished receiver. Great athlete getting off the ground and all and he showed all of that . He looked like he fit. So we’ll try to get him back.’’ Seattle has an obvious spot on the 90-man for a receiver after Austin Hill — who as signed as an undrafted free agent — did not pass his physical. So it won’t be a surprise to hear in the next day or so that the team has signed Williams to the 90-man roster. The Seahawks will have a pretty competitive group at receiver with the addition of draftee Tyler Lockett — who was probably the most consistently impressive player here — to the veteran group of Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse, etc. (Lockett had the highlight play of Sunday’s practice on a deep reception for a touchdown from R.J. Archer) But the Seahawks are obviously intrigued by Williams and appear ready to give him a shot.

    So you're saying he might make a 90 man roster?

    Well don't I feel foolish.
    I don't think you are completely off about Kasen, but you've been a Kasen basher (ok, a criticizer) for a few years, even before the injury. I vaguely remember you and others saying he would run a 4.8 or 4.9.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812

    dnc said:

    Have to love all the talent scouts on this forum. How much separation do you need in the Red Zone, on a corner fade or an inside slant? Same play goes to Kasen in the SuperBowl and I bet Kasen fights for the ball and doesn't get punked.

    "Pete Carroll was very high on WR Kasen Williams. Sounds like he will get a shot."

    Kasen Williams left a lasting impression: Coach Pete Carroll said after Sunday’s workout that the team hopes to sign the former Husky and Skyline High receiver to a free agent deal after he participated here as a tryout player. I wrote about Williams for the Sunday paper (you can find that story below) and Carroll talked about him following Sunday’s workout. “He looked very good,” Carroll said. “We’ve known him for a long time through the recruiting process and our expectations are that he is a really accomplished receiver. Great athlete getting off the ground and all and he showed all of that . He looked like he fit. So we’ll try to get him back.’’ Seattle has an obvious spot on the 90-man for a receiver after Austin Hill — who as signed as an undrafted free agent — did not pass his physical. So it won’t be a surprise to hear in the next day or so that the team has signed Williams to the 90-man roster. The Seahawks will have a pretty competitive group at receiver with the addition of draftee Tyler Lockett — who was probably the most consistently impressive player here — to the veteran group of Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse, etc. (Lockett had the highlight play of Sunday’s practice on a deep reception for a touchdown from R.J. Archer) But the Seahawks are obviously intrigued by Williams and appear ready to give him a shot.

    So you're saying he might make a 90 man roster?

    Well don't I feel foolish.
    I don't think you are completely off about Kasen, but you've been a Kasen basher (ok, a criticizer) for a few years, even before the injury. I vaguely remember you and others saying he would run a 4.8 or 4.9.
    Nice catch. I would love nothing more than to be wrong about Kasen. He seems to be a class act and a guy who really BLEEDS purple. I would love to see him succeed, especially with the Hawks. He was just always severely overrated by the doogs.

    Kasen : YaleDawg :: Nachos : Fetters
  • HeretoBeatmyChestHeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Have to love all the talent scouts on this forum. How much separation do you need in the Red Zone, on a corner fade or an inside slant? Same play goes to Kasen in the SuperBowl and I bet Kasen fights for the ball and doesn't get punked.

    "Pete Carroll was very high on WR Kasen Williams. Sounds like he will get a shot."

    Kasen Williams left a lasting impression: Coach Pete Carroll said after Sunday’s workout that the team hopes to sign the former Husky and Skyline High receiver to a free agent deal after he participated here as a tryout player. I wrote about Williams for the Sunday paper (you can find that story below) and Carroll talked about him following Sunday’s workout. “He looked very good,” Carroll said. “We’ve known him for a long time through the recruiting process and our expectations are that he is a really accomplished receiver. Great athlete getting off the ground and all and he showed all of that . He looked like he fit. So we’ll try to get him back.’’ Seattle has an obvious spot on the 90-man for a receiver after Austin Hill — who as signed as an undrafted free agent — did not pass his physical. So it won’t be a surprise to hear in the next day or so that the team has signed Williams to the 90-man roster. The Seahawks will have a pretty competitive group at receiver with the addition of draftee Tyler Lockett — who was probably the most consistently impressive player here — to the veteran group of Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse, etc. (Lockett had the highlight play of Sunday’s practice on a deep reception for a touchdown from R.J. Archer) But the Seahawks are obviously intrigued by Williams and appear ready to give him a shot.

    So you're saying he might make a 90 man roster?

    Well don't I feel foolish.
    I don't think you are completely off about Kasen, but you've been a Kasen basher (ok, a criticizer) for a few years, even before the injury. I vaguely remember you and others saying he would run a 4.8 or 4.9.
    Nice catch. I would love nothing more than to be wrong about Kasen. He seems to be a class act and a guy who really BLEEDS purple. I would love to see him succeed, especially with the Hawks. He was just always severely overrated by the doogs.

    Kasen : YaleDawg :: Nachos : Fetters
    He was never overrated for the most part.

    And if he actually is healthy he has a shot to make the team. He put up the bulk of his stats in the last few games of the season which is another indication that a redshirt year would have helped him a lot.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Have to love all the talent scouts on this forum. How much separation do you need in the Red Zone, on a corner fade or an inside slant? Same play goes to Kasen in the SuperBowl and I bet Kasen fights for the ball and doesn't get punked.

    "Pete Carroll was very high on WR Kasen Williams. Sounds like he will get a shot."

    Kasen Williams left a lasting impression: Coach Pete Carroll said after Sunday’s workout that the team hopes to sign the former Husky and Skyline High receiver to a free agent deal after he participated here as a tryout player. I wrote about Williams for the Sunday paper (you can find that story below) and Carroll talked about him following Sunday’s workout. “He looked very good,” Carroll said. “We’ve known him for a long time through the recruiting process and our expectations are that he is a really accomplished receiver. Great athlete getting off the ground and all and he showed all of that . He looked like he fit. So we’ll try to get him back.’’ Seattle has an obvious spot on the 90-man for a receiver after Austin Hill — who as signed as an undrafted free agent — did not pass his physical. So it won’t be a surprise to hear in the next day or so that the team has signed Williams to the 90-man roster. The Seahawks will have a pretty competitive group at receiver with the addition of draftee Tyler Lockett — who was probably the most consistently impressive player here — to the veteran group of Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse, etc. (Lockett had the highlight play of Sunday’s practice on a deep reception for a touchdown from R.J. Archer) But the Seahawks are obviously intrigued by Williams and appear ready to give him a shot.

    So you're saying he might make a 90 man roster?

    Well don't I feel foolish.
    I don't think you are completely off about Kasen, but you've been a Kasen basher (ok, a criticizer) for a few years, even before the injury. I vaguely remember you and others saying he would run a 4.8 or 4.9.
    Nice catch. I would love nothing more than to be wrong about Kasen. He seems to be a class act and a guy who really BLEEDS purple. I would love to see him succeed, especially with the Hawks. He was just always severely overrated by the doogs.

    Kasen : YaleDawg :: Nachos : Fetters
    He was never overrated for the most part.

    And if he actually is healthy he has a shot to make the team. He put up the bulk of his stats in the last few games of the season which is another indication that a redshirt year would have helped him a lot.
    I am 100% on bored with him needing a redshirt year.

    If he turns into a stud for the Seahawks I will happily retract everything I've said about him. I don't think a player who's never demonstrated an ability to get open will do that. Hope I'm wrong. His times were better than I expected, so that's promising.
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