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Rape is a real problem in this country. However, some women have used false allegations of sexual assault and domestic violence as weapons against men. Unfortunately it is not uncommon, and because of the political power of women's organizations, government prosecutors uniformly refuse to prosecute cases of false accusations.
I am glad to see that the UVA fraternity is not going to drop this. They shouldn't. Believe it or not, there are more than a few women out there who are completely nuts. Because domestic violence and sexual assault are the "Crimes Du Jour" single men are at risk from these nut jobs. Government Prosecutors are under extreme political pressure to prosecute every accusation to the maximum, even before doing a decent investigation. Beware.
CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA (AP) -- A fraternity at the University of Virginia announced Monday that it will "pursue all available legal action" against Rolling Stone, saying a Columbia Journalism School review shows the magazine acted recklessly and defamed its members by publishing an article that falsely accused them of gang rape.
"The Rolling Stone article viewed by millions fueled a court of public opinion that ostracized Phi Kappa Psi members and led to vandalism of the fraternity house," the fraternity's statement said. "Rolling Stone Magazine admits its staff engaged in reckless behavior while covering this story, yet the magazine refuses to take any action against those involved in reporting the story or address needed changes to its editorial process. The reporter in question not only failed to apologize to members of Phi Kappa Psi, but doesn't even acknowledge the three witnesses she quoted in the article but never interviewed. This is a clear and sad indication that the magazine is not serious about its journalistic obligations," the fraternity said.
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I assume you have some statistics to back up the claim that false allegations are not uncommon. Or like most of your points is it wild speculation based on a logical fallacy?
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It happens that I have personal experience as an attorney in the area. I have even had a city prosecutor sanctioned by the judge for failing to investigate the charges before arresting my client. He was also suspended for six months by the WSBA. He actually argued that he was acting out of political pressure from an activist women's organization. The accuser had actually injured herself with a dumbbell at her gym in front of witnesses. Luckily, my client had the money for me to hire an ex Seattle Detective, now Private Investigator. He found her ex-husband and the whole thing unraveled.allpurpleallgold said:I assume you have some statistics to back up the claim that false allegations are not uncommon. Or like most of your points is it wild speculation based on a logical fallacy?
She had pulled the same stunt in her divorce case against her husband in Tacoma. In that case, she left her husband's house, (uninjured witnessed by the next door neighbor), and drove directly to a fire station where she cut herself while sitting in her car. A fireman observed her cutting herself and came forward later. If he hadn't, her ex-husband would now have a serious criminal record and could have served serious jail time.
One case record is in Superior Court in Seattle and the other is in Superior Court in Tacoma. If you go to the clerk's office on the 6th floor of the courthouse in Seattle and search dismissed domestic violence cases in Seattle from 2010, you should find it. I believe the one in Tacoma was 2008.
It is quite expensive hiring private investigators to do the investigation that the prosecutors' office should do, and unfortunately none of that money is recoverable. Many prosecutors and city attorneys have grand political ambitions and can be influenced by activist women's groups. Some of them want to prove how much they support these groups by arresting accused men ASAP.
The only cases that receive any publicity are those that involve a well known University like Duke or UVA. As you recall, the parents in both situations could afford private investigators who proved that the charges in both cases were bullshit. If you don't have the money to fight it, you're screwed.
BTW, the prosecutor in the Duke Lacrosse case has been permanently disbarred. Just like the UVA case, nobody ever apologized to the young men who were falsely accused.
If you think it's just a one way street, you're an idiot. But I already know you're an idiot. -
ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE:
The Guardian, London: "[I]nstead of fully owning up to their obvious and egregious journalistic errors, Rolling Stone blames their failures on – wait for it – caring too much about rape victims. Rolling Stone created a mess for the men and women trying to end sexual violence on campus and off, and it should be the magazine’s job to clean it up. They’ve chosen instead to wash their hands of any wrongdoing – all because of their deep respect for rape victims.
It's OK that we may have permanently damaged some innocent young men for life, because we cared too much about (ALLEGED) rape victims.
theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/06/jackie-uva-rape-details-rolling-stone-report -
So the city prosecutor arrested your client?d2d said:
It happens that I have personal experience as an attorney in the area. I have even had a city prosecutor sanctioned by the judge for failing to investigate the charges before arresting my client. He was also suspended for six months by the WSBA. He actually argued that he was acting out of political pressure from an activist women's organization. The accuser had actually injured herself with a dumbbell at her gym in front of witnesses. Luckily, my client had the money for me to hire an ex Seattle Detective, now Private Investigator. He found her ex-husband and the whole thing unraveled.allpurpleallgold said:I assume you have some statistics to back up the claim that false allegations are not uncommon. Or like most of your points is it wild speculation based on a logical fallacy?
She had pulled the same stunt in her divorce case against her husband in Tacoma. In that case, she left her husband's house, (uninjured witnessed by the next door neighbor), and drove directly to a fire station where she cut herself while sitting in her car. A fireman observed her cutting herself and came forward later. If he hadn't, her ex-husband would now have a serious criminal record and could have served serious jail time.
One case record is in Superior Court in Seattle and the other is in Superior Court in Tacoma. If you go to the clerk's office on the 6th floor of the courthouse in Seattle and search dismissed domestic violence cases in Seattle from 2010, you should find it. I believe the one in Tacoma was 2008.
It is quite expensive hiring private investigators to do the investigation that the prosecutors' office should do, and unfortunately none of that money is recoverable. Many prosecutors and city attorneys have grand political ambitions and can be influenced by activist women's groups. Some of them want to prove how much they support these groups by arresting accused men ASAP.
The only cases that receive any publicity are those that involve a well known University like Duke or UVA. As you recall, the parents in both situations could afford private investigators who proved that the charges in both cases were bullshit. If you don't have the money to fight it, you're screwed.
BTW, the prosecutor in the Duke Lacrosse case has been permanently disbarred. Just like the UVA case, nobody ever apologized to the young men who were falsely accused.
If you think it's just a one way street, you're an idiot. But I already know you're an idiot. -
So, yes, it is a logical fallacy.
This is why I call you stupid. It's not that all of your points or theories or arguments are wrong. It's that you come to the conlusions like a fucking retard. -
Death, Kobe Bryant says you are fucking stupid. Among many other high profile athletes who have been accused but not prosecuted.
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CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
So the city prosecutor arrested your client?d2d said:
It happens that I have personal experience as an attorney in the area. I have even had a city prosecutor sanctioned by the judge for failing to investigate the charges before arresting my client. He was also suspended for six months by the WSBA. He actually argued that he was acting out of political pressure from an activist women's organization. The accuser had actually injured herself with a dumbbell at her gym in front of witnesses. Luckily, my client had the money for me to hire an ex Seattle Detective, now Private Investigator. He found her ex-husband and the whole thing unraveled.allpurpleallgold said:I assume you have some statistics to back up the claim that false allegations are not uncommon. Or like most of your points is it wild speculation based on a logical fallacy?
She had pulled the same stunt in her divorce case against her husband in Tacoma. In that case, she left her husband's house, (uninjured witnessed by the next door neighbor), and drove directly to a fire station where she cut herself while sitting in her car. A fireman observed her cutting herself and came forward later. If he hadn't, her ex-husband would now have a serious criminal record and could have served serious jail time.
One case record is in Superior Court in Seattle and the other is in Superior Court in Tacoma. If you go to the clerk's office on the 6th floor of the courthouse in Seattle and search dismissed domestic violence cases in Seattle from 2010, you should find it. I believe the one in Tacoma was 2008.
It is quite expensive hiring private investigators to do the investigation that the prosecutors' office should do, and unfortunately none of that money is recoverable. Many prosecutors and city attorneys have grand political ambitions and can be influenced by activist women's groups. Some of them want to prove how much they support these groups by arresting accused men ASAP.
The only cases that receive any publicity are those that involve a well known University like Duke or UVA. As you recall, the parents in both situations could afford private investigators who proved that the charges in both cases were bullshit. If you don't have the money to fight it, you're screwed.
BTW, the prosecutor in the Duke Lacrosse case has been permanently disbarred. Just like the UVA case, nobody ever apologized to the young men who were falsely accused.
If you think it's just a one way street, you're an idiot. But I already know you're an idiot.
It started with the city attorney in a King County suburb. He referred it to the King County Prosecutor's office with virtually no investigation and he lied to the Prosecutor's office to get them to issue an arrest warrant. (One of the reasons I wish there was a Grand Jury system in this state.) My client (Seattle resident) was arrested in Seattle and put in KC Jail Seattle. He was arraigned and bail was set at $100,000 (asshole judge). I got it reduced to PR and hired the private investigator. I got a sworn affidavit from the manager of the gym who watched her beat up her arms with the dumbbell and presented it along with the PI (who was known to the county prosecutor assigned). They agreed to dismiss the charges WITH PREJUDICE, but refused to go after the woman for filing a false police report. They DID however support my sanctions motion against the City Attorney and supported my Bar complaint against him. He actually appealed it all the way to the State Supreme Court and lost at the Appellate Court and the Supreme Court. He has since been elected to a much higher office and was endorsed by several women's organizations. -
When you say women's organizations, is that like a cooking class, or sewing circle or something?d2d said:CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
So the city prosecutor arrested your client?d2d said:
It happens that I have personal experience as an attorney in the area. I have even had a city prosecutor sanctioned by the judge for failing to investigate the charges before arresting my client. He was also suspended for six months by the WSBA. He actually argued that he was acting out of political pressure from an activist women's organization. The accuser had actually injured herself with a dumbbell at her gym in front of witnesses. Luckily, my client had the money for me to hire an ex Seattle Detective, now Private Investigator. He found her ex-husband and the whole thing unraveled.allpurpleallgold said:I assume you have some statistics to back up the claim that false allegations are not uncommon. Or like most of your points is it wild speculation based on a logical fallacy?
She had pulled the same stunt in her divorce case against her husband in Tacoma. In that case, she left her husband's house, (uninjured witnessed by the next door neighbor), and drove directly to a fire station where she cut herself while sitting in her car. A fireman observed her cutting herself and came forward later. If he hadn't, her ex-husband would now have a serious criminal record and could have served serious jail time.
One case record is in Superior Court in Seattle and the other is in Superior Court in Tacoma. If you go to the clerk's office on the 6th floor of the courthouse in Seattle and search dismissed domestic violence cases in Seattle from 2010, you should find it. I believe the one in Tacoma was 2008.
It is quite expensive hiring private investigators to do the investigation that the prosecutors' office should do, and unfortunately none of that money is recoverable. Many prosecutors and city attorneys have grand political ambitions and can be influenced by activist women's groups. Some of them want to prove how much they support these groups by arresting accused men ASAP.
The only cases that receive any publicity are those that involve a well known University like Duke or UVA. As you recall, the parents in both situations could afford private investigators who proved that the charges in both cases were bullshit. If you don't have the money to fight it, you're screwed.
BTW, the prosecutor in the Duke Lacrosse case has been permanently disbarred. Just like the UVA case, nobody ever apologized to the young men who were falsely accused.
If you think it's just a one way street, you're an idiot. But I already know you're an idiot.
It started with the city attorney in a King County suburb. He referred it to the King County Prosecutor's office with virtually no investigation and he lied to the Prosecutor's office to get them to issue an arrest warrant. (One of the reasons I wish there was a Grand Jury system in this state.) My client (Seattle resident) was arrested in Seattle and put in KC Jail Seattle. He was arraigned and bail was set at $100,000 (asshole judge). I got it reduced to PR and hired the private investigator. I got a sworn affidavit from the manager of the gym who watched her beat up her arms with the dumbbell and presented it along with the PI (who was known to the county prosecutor assigned). They agreed to dismiss the charges WITH PREJUDICE, but refused to go after the woman for filing a false police report. They DID however support my sanctions motion against the City Attorney and supported my Bar complaint against him. He actually appealed it all the way to the State Supreme Court and lost at the Appellate Court and the Supreme Court. He has since been elected to a much higher office and was endorsed by several women's organizations. -
soccer.Swaye said:
When you say women's organizations, is that like a cooking class, or sewing circle or something?d2d said:CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
So the city prosecutor arrested your client?d2d said:
It happens that I have personal experience as an attorney in the area. I have even had a city prosecutor sanctioned by the judge for failing to investigate the charges before arresting my client. He was also suspended for six months by the WSBA. He actually argued that he was acting out of political pressure from an activist women's organization. The accuser had actually injured herself with a dumbbell at her gym in front of witnesses. Luckily, my client had the money for me to hire an ex Seattle Detective, now Private Investigator. He found her ex-husband and the whole thing unraveled.allpurpleallgold said:I assume you have some statistics to back up the claim that false allegations are not uncommon. Or like most of your points is it wild speculation based on a logical fallacy?
She had pulled the same stunt in her divorce case against her husband in Tacoma. In that case, she left her husband's house, (uninjured witnessed by the next door neighbor), and drove directly to a fire station where she cut herself while sitting in her car. A fireman observed her cutting herself and came forward later. If he hadn't, her ex-husband would now have a serious criminal record and could have served serious jail time.
One case record is in Superior Court in Seattle and the other is in Superior Court in Tacoma. If you go to the clerk's office on the 6th floor of the courthouse in Seattle and search dismissed domestic violence cases in Seattle from 2010, you should find it. I believe the one in Tacoma was 2008.
It is quite expensive hiring private investigators to do the investigation that the prosecutors' office should do, and unfortunately none of that money is recoverable. Many prosecutors and city attorneys have grand political ambitions and can be influenced by activist women's groups. Some of them want to prove how much they support these groups by arresting accused men ASAP.
The only cases that receive any publicity are those that involve a well known University like Duke or UVA. As you recall, the parents in both situations could afford private investigators who proved that the charges in both cases were bullshit. If you don't have the money to fight it, you're screwed.
BTW, the prosecutor in the Duke Lacrosse case has been permanently disbarred. Just like the UVA case, nobody ever apologized to the young men who were falsely accused.
If you think it's just a one way street, you're an idiot. But I already know you're an idiot.
It started with the city attorney in a King County suburb. He referred it to the King County Prosecutor's office with virtually no investigation and he lied to the Prosecutor's office to get them to issue an arrest warrant. (One of the reasons I wish there was a Grand Jury system in this state.) My client (Seattle resident) was arrested in Seattle and put in KC Jail Seattle. He was arraigned and bail was set at $100,000 (asshole judge). I got it reduced to PR and hired the private investigator. I got a sworn affidavit from the manager of the gym who watched her beat up her arms with the dumbbell and presented it along with the PI (who was known to the county prosecutor assigned). They agreed to dismiss the charges WITH PREJUDICE, but refused to go after the woman for filing a false police report. They DID however support my sanctions motion against the City Attorney and supported my Bar complaint against him. He actually appealed it all the way to the State Supreme Court and lost at the Appellate Court and the Supreme Court. He has since been elected to a much higher office and was endorsed by several women's organizations. -
If Kobe Bryant wasn't prosecuted what was his trial about?2001400ex said:Death, Kobe Bryant says you are fucking stupid. Among many other high profile athletes who have been accused but not prosecuted.
