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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
    How is it Sark's fault?
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
    How is it Sark's fault?

    For not pushing him to reach his full potential, like all of Sark's recruits, he regressed

    I would definitely agree that Sark didn't get the most out of Kasen. He was never used right. That said, he was an NFL WR before the gruesome injury.
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    AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 6,992
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    If Kasen wasn't so hyped out of high school nobody would have thought that much of him in college. There are lots of guys like him in California and other states in high school. he was a good recruit but way over hyped.
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    NeGgaPlEaSeNeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,729
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    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
    How is it Sark's fault?

    For not pushing him to reach his full potential, like all of Sark's recruits, he regressed

    I would definitely agree that Sark didn't get the most out of Kasen. He was never used right. That said, he was an NFL WR before the gruesome injury.
    Jamora and Cooper had worse injuries IMHO. Did we ever get a definitive on Kasen's injury? What was it? Foot, Leg? Either way, given his 35" and 4.6 speed, he should be on his way to full recovery.
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
    How is it Sark's fault?

    For not pushing him to reach his full potential, like all of Sark's recruits, he regressed

    I would definitely agree that Sark didn't get the most out of Kasen. He was never used right. That said, he was an NFL WR before the gruesome injury.
    Jamora and Cooper had worse injuries IMHO. Did we ever get a definitive on Kasen's injury? What was it? Foot, Leg? Either way, given his 35" and 4.6 speed, he should be on his way to full recovery.
    Thought it was Lisfranc
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    NeGgaPlEaSeNeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,729
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    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
    How is it Sark's fault?

    For not pushing him to reach his full potential, like all of Sark's recruits, he regressed

    I would definitely agree that Sark didn't get the most out of Kasen. He was never used right. That said, he was an NFL WR before the gruesome injury.
    Jamora and Cooper had worse injuries IMHO. Did we ever get a definitive on Kasen's injury? What was it? Foot, Leg? Either way, given his 35" and 4.6 speed, he should be on his way to full recovery.
    Thought it was Lisfranc
    If that's true he will recover
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    whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,462
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    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
    How is it Sark's fault?

    For not pushing him to reach his full potential, like all of Sark's recruits, he regressed

    I would definitely agree that Sark didn't get the most out of Kasen. He was never used right. That said, he was an NFL WR before the gruesome injury.
    Jamora and Cooper had worse injuries IMHO. Did we ever get a definitive on Kasen's injury? What was it? Foot, Leg? Either way, given his 35" and 4.6 speed, he should be on his way to full recovery.
    Thought it was Lisfranc
    It was Lisfranc. Remember how long it took Stanback to recover after Oregon State?
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    HuskyInAZHuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
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    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
    How is it Sark's fault?

    For not pushing him to reach his full potential, like all of Sark's recruits, he regressed

    I would definitely agree that Sark didn't get the most out of Kasen. He was never used right. That said, he was an NFL WR before the gruesome injury.
    Jamora and Cooper had worse injuries IMHO. Did we ever get a definitive on Kasen's injury? What was it? Foot, Leg? Either way, given his 35" and 4.6 speed, he should be on his way to full recovery.
    This is just FS. There are differing degrees of injuries. Some ACL tears are worse than others. Some Lisfranc injuries are worse than others. To declare that a couple of ACL tears are worse than a given Listranc injury defies common sense.

    It was clear that Kasen was not healthy all year, but he certainly got healthier later in the year.
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    HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 4,525
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    Lisfranc takes so long because the area doesn't get much blood flow. They used to have to amputate in the old-old days (Napoleon's cavalry while conquering Egypt).
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    NeGgaPlEaSeNeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,729
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    HuskyInAZ said:

    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
    How is it Sark's fault?

    For not pushing him to reach his full potential, like all of Sark's recruits, he regressed

    I would definitely agree that Sark didn't get the most out of Kasen. He was never used right. That said, he was an NFL WR before the gruesome injury.
    Jamora and Cooper had worse injuries IMHO. Did we ever get a definitive on Kasen's injury? What was it? Foot, Leg? Either way, given his 35" and 4.6 speed, he should be on his way to full recovery.
    This is just FS. There are differing degrees of injuries. Some ACL tears are worse than others. Some Lisfranc injuries are worse than others. To declare that a couple of ACL tears are worse than a given Listranc injury defies common sense.

    It was clear that Kasen was not healthy all year, but he certainly got healthier later in the year.
    How many of these have you repaired? The current advances in surgical techniques, compression plates, staples, bone anchors, external fixation and BMA (Bone Marrow Aspirate) technology, this type of injury has gone from jeopardizing an athletes career to a situation that can be fixed with recovery greater than 90% of original stability and strength. Notice there are no screws crossing the first metatarsal cuneiform joint.....Just like using knotless tight ropes in ankle fractures with syndesmotic injuries (these were missed all the time before, and standard AO technique was 4 cortices screw placement which required removal or they just broke) you can use mini tight ropes instead of 4.0 or two 3.5 mm screws now ...
    http://www.arthrex.com/resources/video/AkhnzYIAuUO3OAE4xIXDgA/lisfranc-ligament-repair-using-the-mini-tightrope-and-the-mini-tightrope-ft-anchor
    http://www.arthrex.com/foot-ankle/lisfranc-plates

    "I had mine in the dark ages; they weren’t doing many then," said Stokley, who’s entering his 12th season. "To come back from that was the toughest by far."

    Karen did not have his done in the dark ages...And one of the Top Foot and Ankle Surgeon in the World happens to live in Seattle and work at Harborview

    http://www.orthop.washington.edu/?q=faculty-profiles/sigvard-t-hansen-jr-md.html
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    NeGgaPlEaSeNeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,729
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    HFNY said:

    Lisfranc takes so long because the area doesn't get much blood flow. They used to have to amputate in the old-old days (Napoleon's cavalry while conquering Egypt).

    Actually, talar neck fractures have a hard time healing because of blood flow. they are classified accordingly
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    MisterEmMisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
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    HFNY said:

    Lisfranc takes so long because the area doesn't get much blood flow. They used to have to amputate in the old-old days (Napoleon's cavalry while conquering Egypt).

    Actually, talar neck fractures have a hard time healing because of blood flow. they are classified accordingly
    Neck fracture superiority guy
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    sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
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    Sig Hansen is an Ortho surgeon when he's not a crab boat captain???

    fucker is a workaholic.
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    NeGgaPlEaSeNeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,729
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    Sig Hansen is an Ortho surgeon when he's not a crab boat captain???

    fucker is a workaholic.


    You called him Sig, so obviously you know what the fuck you are talking about... Let's be real, if there's one place in America to have an Injury like this, it's Seattle and all those AFOS surgeons trained by Sig, followed by Baltimore and Myerson. If Kasen is jumping 36 inches, and running 4.62 40's, it's safe to assume someone in Seattle knew what they were doing, and he may fully (90%) recover sooner than later.
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    HuskyInAZHuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
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    Kasen could not afford to lose 10% of his speed/explosiveness.
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    HuskyInAZ said:

    When Kasen is healthy, he could be really good. But IMO, he's still not all the way back. A 35" vertical for a guy who high jumped 7' and triple jumped 50' in HS tells me he's still not fully healed.

    As for being used wrong, he was obviously not healthy in 2014. Tough to use a gimpy WR, especially with a noodle-armed QB who throws with his eyes closed. Not a great combo. In hindsight, a RS in 2014 would likely have been the best call.

    I think Kasen had the ability to be an NFL WR. Probably not a very good one, but a middle round pick who could bounce around for a little bit.

    After the injury, he's done. He didn't have any speed to sacrifice. I'll be surprised if he makes a practice squad.
    I'm surprised you'll be surprised.
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