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The listing and debunking of every stupid pro-Romar argument
Gladstone
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Let's collectively think of every argument and post/debunk them in this thread.
1. The local H.S. talent was down the past few years -- that explains the drop off in wins.
If the program is dependent on elite, NBA-ready H.S. players, then we're in very serious trouble. It's vexing how this argument is trotted out time and time again by Romar apologists. This is a silly argument as 95%+ of NCAA teams are not sitting unopposed in the heart of a city that often produces amazing recruits. Most universities recruit and develop their players from areas outside of their immediate vicinity. The examples are endless. Utah. Gonzaga. Oregon. On and on and on.
Even if the Seattle talent exists in a particular year, there is no guarantee they will sign with UW. Peyton Siva, Josh Smith, Gary Bell, amongst others...Romar misses as much as he hits.
1. The local H.S. talent was down the past few years -- that explains the drop off in wins.
If the program is dependent on elite, NBA-ready H.S. players, then we're in very serious trouble. It's vexing how this argument is trotted out time and time again by Romar apologists. This is a silly argument as 95%+ of NCAA teams are not sitting unopposed in the heart of a city that often produces amazing recruits. Most universities recruit and develop their players from areas outside of their immediate vicinity. The examples are endless. Utah. Gonzaga. Oregon. On and on and on.
Even if the Seattle talent exists in a particular year, there is no guarantee they will sign with UW. Peyton Siva, Josh Smith, Gary Bell, amongst others...Romar misses as much as he hits.
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This should generally be expected of every coach at UW, regardless of what sport it is. Standard, not exception. And to use it in defense against a torrent of losses and poor in-game decisions? Laughable.
The problem is that the program has been trending backwards for years now. All his past success is meaningless.
Well, ten coaches finished ahead of Washington in the conference alone. I can think of at least four I'd take over him in a heartbeat.
Facts:
2010 team had 3 members of the team in the rotation that have played in the NBA (Pondexter and IT both heavy rotational players)
A 4th future NBA player (CJ Wilcox) redshirted due to the amount of depth at the wing positions on this team
MBA, Elston Turner and Gaddy are playing professionally (MBA in Mexico; Turner/Gaddy in Italy on upper division teams in Serie A).
The '10 team didn't win their FIRST neutral/away game until Game #25 of the season. That was their 8th attempt on the season to accomplish that task.
Won the PAC tournament to earn an 11 seed in the NCAA Tournament.
Without a win in the PAC Tournament, it's very possible that this would have been a team that missed the NCAAs altogether with THAT level of talent.
Wow an 11 seed. That's pathetic. Back then I still gave Romar the benefit of the doubt because he got to sweet sixteens and such. Didn't we lose to West Virginia or something?
I support coach Romar.
In 1,000 chances would LoRo ever pull that off?
That's the point. Altman is a great coach of the game of basketball. His recruiting and everything else not directly related to game coaching isn't great. If Altman could recruit like RoLo he'd be at big time school kicking ass.
UW needs to get a great basketball coach, win consistently, and once they are a winner go for the recruiter type.
I consider someone a good recruiter when they can adjust to surroundings. Figure out talent is down and go find it. Bring in the majority of your guys make a mark on the program. I'm not saying every player will work out, but 75% of romars guys are failing, not the other way around. It's been years since we had legit 6th, 7th, 8th guys to actually carry a team.
That isn't recruiting.
Hopefully this next season is all the romarloves need. But if it's any indication of how things have gone for half a decade almost, you're going to whining about youth, injuries and transfers by december.
In probably 2-3 years Uncle Phil will tire of being a Top 3-4 team in the conference and 1st weekend bounces from the NCAAs and question what needs to be done to get deeper into March. Then he'll throw a $15M per year offer out to Callipari to coach the Ducks.