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I guess the entire SAE frat deserves expulsion

puppylove_sugarsteel
puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
edited March 2015 in Tug Tavern
I'd sue the piss out of the university of Oklahoma and the national SAE organization. I expect many of the members to do just that. If I was the kid caught on video Id sue the university and national fratern a l organization. No law broken, no "hate" speech, no civil rights violations TECHNICALLY.

Just a couple of ignorant kids acting out what their bigot parents taught them. They intended no physical harm on black people. There was no intent to physically hang black students. Just an ignorant and stupidly racist chant. But to their defense, no physical harm intended. Plus there was no contract signed to prevent such said free speech upon attending OU. Defense attorneys are licking their chops over this.

what about the rest of the fraternity? Are they racist? Why should they be expelled. Id sue till I was blue in the face over this.

Guess the 1st amendment doesnt apply to bigots.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I'd sue the piss out of the university of Oklahoma and the national SAE organization. I expect many of the members to do just that. If I was the kid caught on video Id sue the university and national fratern a l organization. No law broken, no "hate" speech, no civil rights violations TECHNICALLY.

    Just a couple of ignorant kids acting out what their bigot parents taught them. They intended no physical harm on black people. There was no intent to physically hang black students. Just an ignorant and stupidly racist chant. But to their defense, no physical harm intended. Plus there was no contract signed to prevent such said free speech upon attending OU. Defense attorneys are licking their chops over this.

    what about the rest of the fraternity? Are they racist? Why should they be expelled. Id sue till I was blue in the face over this.

    Guess the 1st amendment doesnt apply to bigots.

    That's what Charles Barkley said about Michael Vick. See how far that got him?
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Leave it to you for a buttfuckered nonsense response.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    They specifically asked for no racist crap.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990

    I'd sue the piss out of the university of Oklahoma and the national SAE organization. I expect many of the members to do just that. If I was the kid caught on video Id sue the university and national fratern a l organization. No law broken, no "hate" speech, no civil rights violations TECHNICALLY.

    Just a couple of ignorant kids acting out what their bigot parents taught them. They intended no physical harm on black people. There was no intent to physically hang black students. Just an ignorant and stupidly racist chant. But to their defense, no physical harm intended. Plus there was no contract signed to prevent such said free speech upon attending OU. Defense attorneys are licking their chops over this.

    what about the rest of the fraternity? Are they racist? Why should they be expelled. Id sue till I was blue in the face over this.

    Guess the 1st amendment doesnt apply to bigots.

    Right, which is why law enforcement isn't involved. Instead, they broke school policy and fraternity policy. If you break those policies, you're gonna get kicked out. Which is what happened.

    Come on, puppy, you're better than this.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,026
    Those dude brahs are fucked. They live in university approved housing, they die by whatever university says.

    Their only hope is is the mega buck OU benefactors are SAE alums. Then there might be a chance at some lighter punishment. But it won't be for a couple more years until they'd be allowed to recolonize that chapter.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133

    I'd sue the piss out of the university of Oklahoma and the national SAE organization. I expect many of the members to do just that. If I was the kid caught on video Id sue the university and national fratern a l organization. No law broken, no "hate" speech, no civil rights violations TECHNICALLY.

    Just a couple of ignorant kids acting out what their bigot parents taught them. They intended no physical harm on black people. There was no intent to physically hang black students. Just an ignorant and stupidly racist chant. But to their defense, no physical harm intended. Plus there was no contract signed to prevent such said free speech upon attending OU. Defense attorneys are licking their chops over this.

    what about the rest of the fraternity? Are they racist? Why should they be expelled. Id sue till I was blue in the face over this.

    Guess the 1st amendment doesnt apply to bigots.
    Right, which is why law enforcement isn't involved. Instead, they broke school policy and fraternity policy. If you break those policies, you're gonna get kicked out. Which is what happened.

    Come on, puppy, you're better than this.

    Was the university policy made apparent and can a university stifle free speech?
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    I agree the bus racists (just 2) should be brought to a university trial, then a legal trial. Then expulsion is warranted if university policy and or SAE policy was broken. But an education cannot be denied an individual for personal beliefs and the 1st amendment's boundries. That's all. The campus black frat should just do a little old-school hazing on these punks and call it good
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990

    I'd sue the piss out of the university of Oklahoma and the national SAE organization. I expect many of the members to do just that. If I was the kid caught on video Id sue the university and national fratern a l organization. No law broken, no "hate" speech, no civil rights violations TECHNICALLY.

    Just a couple of ignorant kids acting out what their bigot parents taught them. They intended no physical harm on black people. There was no intent to physically hang black students. Just an ignorant and stupidly racist chant. But to their defense, no physical harm intended. Plus there was no contract signed to prevent such said free speech upon attending OU. Defense attorneys are licking their chops over this.

    what about the rest of the fraternity? Are they racist? Why should they be expelled. Id sue till I was blue in the face over this.

    Guess the 1st amendment doesnt apply to bigots.
    Right, which is why law enforcement isn't involved. Instead, they broke school policy and fraternity policy. If you break those policies, you're gonna get kicked out. Which is what happened.

    Come on, puppy, you're better than this.
    Was the university policy made apparent and can a university stifle free speech?

    According to their website, the policy is in their student handbook under the student code of conduct. Says violators of this policy will face punishment outlined by the student code (http://www.ou.edu/regents/policy.html).

    The university can't stifle "free speech", but the university (and the state of Oklahoma) can set their own policies.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Puppy. You should read the first amendment. Seriously.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    It's the same kind of faggot (75k) conduct clause my company makes you sign every year. It is intentionally vague. That way, if you pull some stupid bullshit and they need to toss you under the bus for it, they can without worrying too much about lawsuits.

    You signed the fucking conduct clause, didn't you?

  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    I agree about getting kicked out of housing and disbanded, but something feels off about full on expulsion from class.

    Maybe it's the Rugby team tour bus that has me sympathizing with some drunken chanting , although I never sang any racist crap, I've definitely had my fair share of fucked up lyrics (Jesus can't play rugby because he's got holes in his hands, Jesus can't play rugby because the Jew won't pay his dues, etc.)

    These dudes were fucking idiots, but we are crossing Donald sterling territory here as far as what we can and can't say in our own space. Label them as you will, but you can't deprive someone their education because a drunken song on a private bus.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    The mob is satiated and real racism marches on
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    There's no room in society for that video
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346


    Come on, puppy, you're better than this.

    No he's not.
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109
    edited March 2015
    Listen to the song. It's a violation of federal law; the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Would you prefer that Obama and Holder determine their punishment?
  • PurpleReign
    PurpleReign Member Posts: 5,479
    They are morons. Not only for participating in such a stupid song, but also for not realizing every fucking person has a video recorder in their pocket. Total dip shits.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,026
    Isn't this where Belushi is supposed to swoop down and take the chick with the big boobs now that the assholes have been neutered?

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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    This is ironic............

    From the same guy that sent butthurt PM's to Derek on a regular basis.......got it.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Apparently puppy was right. OU in deep shit for expelling the two in video. Fuck america and americans for ignoring civil rights just because it doesnt meet society's acceptable codes of conduct. Kick the boofs out the fraternity but shut it down?. A public university shall not deprive ones' right to an education based on personal beliefs and expression. I know you funny leaning buttsniffers dont like it but tough titty. I hope the two students make the dean's list and prove what idiots they were but no longer are.
  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam

    dflea said:

    It's the same kind of faggot (75k) conduct clause my company makes you sign every year. It is intentionally vague. That way, if you pull some stupid bullshit and they need to toss you under the bus for it, they can without worrying too much about lawsuits.

    You signed the fucking conduct clause, didn't you?

    My company just changed the cell phone policy. It used to be they reimburse you so much per month. Now you have to sign an agreement that basically says the company can monitor your phone, read emails, texts, etc. I said fuck that. I'll happily foot my own bill than to sign some bullshit contract making me liable for reading what puppy says when he's off his meds.
    Whatevs. We know you're trolling for hookers on your Blackberry.
  • Your_Mom
    Your_Mom Member Posts: 393
    "You can hang a ni99er from a tree, but he will never be an SAE."

    According to reports -- this is a widespread chant of SAE all over the south.

    The only news here is that 2 of many were caught on tape.

    Their mom's are probably very proud.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    Your_Mom said:

    "You can hang a ni99er from a tree, but he will never be an SAE."

    According to reports -- this is a widespread chant of SAE all over the south.

    The only news here is that 2 of many were caught on tape.

    Their mom's are probably very proud.

    If you can't understand the difference then Puppy can't help you
  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    Your_Mom said:

    "You can hang a ni99er from a tree, but he will never be an SAE."

    According to reports -- this is a widespread chant of SAE all over the south. NOT TRUE

    The only news here is that 2 of many were caught on tape. TRUE

    Their your 2 mom's are probably very proud.

  • JaWarrenJaHooker
    JaWarrenJaHooker Member Posts: 2,121
    Your_Mom said:

    "You can hang a ni99er from a tree, but he will never be an SAE."

    According to reports -- this is a widespread chant of SAE all over the south.

    The only news here is that 2 of many were caught on tape.

    Their mom's are probably very proud.

    Your spelling of that word even with 9's replacing g's offends me very much.

    I'm reporting this entire hobby board to the proper authorities.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    I'd sue the piss out of the university of Oklahoma and the national SAE organization. I expect many of the members to do just that. If I was the kid caught on video Id sue the university and national fratern a l organization. No law broken, no "hate" speech, no civil rights violations TECHNICALLY.

    Just a couple of ignorant kids acting out what their bigot parents taught them. They intended no physical harm on black people. There was no intent to physically hang black students. Just an ignorant and stupidly racist chant. But to their defense, no physical harm intended. Plus there was no contract signed to prevent such said free speech upon attending OU. Defense attorneys are licking their chops over this.

    what about the rest of the fraternity? Are they racist? Why should they be expelled. Id sue till I was blue in the face over this.

    Guess the 1st amendment doesnt apply to bigots.

    So which one of those kids was yours?
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Your_Mom said:

    "You can hang a ni99er from a tree, but he will never be an SAE."

    According to reports -- this is a widespread chant of SAE all over the south.

    The only news here is that 2 of many were caught on tape.

    Their mom's are probably very proud.

    So lets punish every SAE member in the south then. Im sure every one is racist. And bringing civil rights act into thus is comical. Ot wasnt a public display. It was caught on tape on a "private" bus. Is their one faggoted lib who believes in civil rights, due process and the 1st amendment on this fucking bored? Yes, the civil rights act applies to these kids on the bus too.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127
    edited March 2015
    These kids are fucking idiots who deserve everything they get for being so stupid. I hope they get the shit beaten out of them daily if they are allowed to return.

    The kids should find a new fucking school and try to move on. Nobody will remember this in a year or two.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    These kids are fucking idiots who deserve everything they get for being so stupid. I hope they get the shit beaten out of them daily if they are allowed to return.

    The kids should find a new fucking school and try to move on. Nobody will remember this in a year or two.

    I think they should stay at OU and see what happens...