I guess the entire SAE frat deserves expulsion

puppylove_sugarsteel · March 2015

I'd sue the piss out of the university of Oklahoma and the national SAE organization. I expect many of the members to do just that. If I was the kid caught on video Id sue the university and national fratern a l organization. No law broken, no "hate" speech, no civil rights violations TECHNICALLY.

Just a couple of ignorant kids acting out what their bigot parents taught them. They intended no physical harm on black people. There was no intent to physically hang black students. Just an ignorant and stupidly racist chant. But to their defense, no physical harm intended. Plus there was no contract signed to prevent such said free speech upon attending OU. Defense attorneys are licking their chops over this.

what about the rest of the fraternity? Are they racist? Why should they be expelled. Id sue till I was blue in the face over this.

Guess the 1st amendment doesnt apply to bigots.

2001400ex · March 2015

puppylove_sugarsteel said:
I'd sue the piss out of the university of Oklahoma and the national SAE organization. I expect many of the members to do just that. If I was the kid caught on video Id sue the university and national fratern a l organization. No law broken, no "hate" speech, no civil rights violations TECHNICALLY.

Just a couple of ignorant kids acting out what their bigot parents taught them. They intended no physical harm on black people. There was no intent to physically hang black students. Just an ignorant and stupidly racist chant. But to their defense, no physical harm intended. Plus there was no contract signed to prevent such said free speech upon attending OU. Defense attorneys are licking their chops over this.

what about the rest of the fraternity? Are they racist? Why should they be expelled. Id sue till I was blue in the face over this.

Guess the 1st amendment doesnt apply to bigots.

That's what Charles Barkley said about Michael Vick. See how far that got him?

puppylove_sugarsteel · March 2015

Leave it to you for a buttfuckered nonsense response.

AZDuck · March 2015

PurpleJ · March 2015

They specifically asked for no racist crap.

whatshouldicareabout · March 2015

puppylove_sugarsteel said:
I'd sue the piss out of the university of Oklahoma and the national SAE organization. I expect many of the members to do just that. If I was the kid caught on video Id sue the university and national fratern a l organization. No law broken, no "hate" speech, no civil rights violations TECHNICALLY.

Just a couple of ignorant kids acting out what their bigot parents taught them. They intended no physical harm on black people. There was no intent to physically hang black students. Just an ignorant and stupidly racist chant. But to their defense, no physical harm intended. Plus there was no contract signed to prevent such said free speech upon attending OU. Defense attorneys are licking their chops over this.

what about the rest of the fraternity? Are they racist? Why should they be expelled. Id sue till I was blue in the face over this.

Guess the 1st amendment doesnt apply to bigots.

Right, which is why law enforcement isn't involved. Instead, they broke school policy and fraternity policy. If you break those policies, you're gonna get kicked out. Which is what happened.

Come on, puppy, you're better than this.

PurpleThrobber · March 2015

Those dude brahs are fucked. They live in university approved housing, they die by whatever university says.

Their only hope is is the mega buck OU benefactors are SAE alums. Then there might be a chance at some lighter punishment. But it won't be for a couple more years until they'd be allowed to recolonize that chapter.

puppylove_sugarsteel · March 2015

whatshouldicareabout said:
I'd sue the piss out of the university of Oklahoma and the national SAE organization. I expect many of the members to do just that. If I was the kid caught on video Id sue the university and national fratern a l organization. No law broken, no "hate" speech, no civil rights violations TECHNICALLY.

Just a couple of ignorant kids acting out what their bigot parents taught them. They intended no physical harm on black people. There was no intent to physically hang black students. Just an ignorant and stupidly racist chant. But to their defense, no physical harm intended. Plus there was no contract signed to prevent such said free speech upon attending OU. Defense attorneys are licking their chops over this.

what about the rest of the fraternity? Are they racist? Why should they be expelled. Id sue till I was blue in the face over this.

Guess the 1st amendment doesnt apply to bigots.

Right, which is why law enforcement isn't involved. Instead, they broke school policy and fraternity policy. If you break those policies, you're gonna get kicked out. Which is what happened.

Come on, puppy, you're better than this.

Was the university policy made apparent and can a university stifle free speech?

puppylove_sugarsteel · March 2015

I agree the bus racists (just 2) should be brought to a university trial, then a legal trial. Then expulsion is warranted if university policy and or SAE policy was broken. But an education cannot be denied an individual for personal beliefs and the 1st amendment's boundries. That's all. The campus black frat should just do a little old-school hazing on these punks and call it good

whatshouldicareabout · March 2015

puppylove_sugarsteel said:

whatshouldicareabout said:
I'd sue the piss out of the university of Oklahoma and the national SAE organization. I expect many of the members to do just that. If I was the kid caught on video Id sue the university and national fratern a l organization. No law broken, no "hate" speech, no civil rights violations TECHNICALLY.

Just a couple of ignorant kids acting out what their bigot parents taught them. They intended no physical harm on black people. There was no intent to physically hang black students. Just an ignorant and stupidly racist chant. But to their defense, no physical harm intended. Plus there was no contract signed to prevent such said free speech upon attending OU. Defense attorneys are licking their chops over this.

what about the rest of the fraternity? Are they racist? Why should they be expelled. Id sue till I was blue in the face over this.

Guess the 1st amendment doesnt apply to bigots.
Right, which is why law enforcement isn't involved. Instead, they broke school policy and fraternity policy. If you break those policies, you're gonna get kicked out. Which is what happened.

Come on, puppy, you're better than this.

Was the university policy made apparent and can a university stifle free speech?

According to their website, the policy is in their student handbook under the student code of conduct. Says violators of this policy will face punishment outlined by the student code (http://www.ou.edu/regents/policy.html).

The university can't stifle "free speech", but the university (and the state of Oklahoma) can set their own policies.

2001400ex · March 2015

Puppy. You should read the first amendment. Seriously.

dflea · March 2015

It's the same kind of faggot (75k) conduct clause my company makes you sign every year. It is intentionally vague. That way, if you pull some stupid bullshit and they need to toss you under the bus for it, they can without worrying too much about lawsuits.

You signed the fucking conduct clause, didn't you?

DugtheDoog · March 2015

dflea said:
It's the same kind of faggot (75k) conduct clause my company makes you sign every year. It is intentionally vague. That way, if you pull some stupid bullshit and they need to toss you under the bus for it, they can without worrying too much about lawsuits.

You signed the fucking conduct clause, didn't you?

My company just changed the cell phone policy. It used to be they reimburse you so much per month. Now you have to sign an agreement that basically says the company can monitor your phone, read emails, texts, etc. I said fuck that. I'll happily foot my own bill than to sign some bullshit contract making me liable for reading what puppy says when he's off his meds.

Doogles · March 2015

I agree about getting kicked out of housing and disbanded, but something feels off about full on expulsion from class.

Maybe it's the Rugby team tour bus that has me sympathizing with some drunken chanting , although I never sang any racist crap, I've definitely had my fair share of fucked up lyrics (Jesus can't play rugby because he's got holes in his hands, Jesus can't play rugby because the Jew won't pay his dues, etc.)

These dudes were fucking idiots, but we are crossing Donald sterling territory here as far as what we can and can't say in our own space. Label them as you will, but you can't deprive someone their education because a drunken song on a private bus.

RaceBannon · March 2015

The mob is satiated and real racism marches on

Tequilla · March 2015

There's no room in society for that video

BennyBeaver · March 2015

whatshouldicareabout said:

Come on, puppy, you're better than this.

No he's not.

d2d · March 2015

Listen to the song. It's a violation of federal law; the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Would you prefer that Obama and Holder determine their punishment?

PurpleReign · March 2015

They are morons. Not only for participating in such a stupid song, but also for not realizing every fucking person has a video recorder in their pocket. Total dip shits.