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  • UWerentThereMan
    UWerentThereMan Member Posts: 3,475
    Either way it will be interesting
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    That might be one of the worst articles I have ever read.
  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161

    Dumbasses think Philly will suck next year. I was reading the comments on a sports site and I would say 80% of the comments criticized the McCoy-Alonso trade. They thought it was a terrible deal for the Eagles. Way too many people think it is Madden.

    The Eagles have $50 million of cap room. The free agents won't give a shit about who gets cut by Chip. The only thing they care about is the guaranteed money in their contracts.


    Bingo. It appears Chip is following the Belichick model, that of getting rid of high priced players just before they trend downward due to age or injury. Most teams wait too long. Yes, Shady is young but we all know RBs have a short shelf life and McCoy's play last year was noticeably off from 2013. Oh yeah, and what a bunch of fans think about a team's roster moves means exactly jack shit.

    Now whether Chip can replicate New England's success is an open question but it sure seems like that guy has a plan and the guts to carry it out. Obviously, he has the full support of Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie which will, of course, disappear if his grand scheme falls on its face. Which it well might. In the meantime the Eagles are the talk of the NFL and it's all making for great theater.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    Dumbasses think Philly will suck next year. I was reading the comments on a sports site and I would say 80% of the comments criticized the McCoy-Alonso trade. They thought it was a terrible deal for the Eagles. Way too many people think it is Madden.

    The Eagles have $50 million of cap room. The free agents won't give a shit about who gets cut by Chip. The only thing they care about is the guaranteed money in their contracts.

    That is the argument the article is trying to make.

    He is saying Philly will have a hard time getting recruits to sign without guaranteed money.

    This is a NFL universal statement.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited March 2015
    McCoy is a dynamite weapon, but as last year showed, he is declining, while Alonso (although coming off knee surgery) is an up and coming defensive star. Philly completely plungered the Bills. Which is why the Bills will continue to be the Bills.

    Runningbacks continue to have shorter and shorter lifespans in the NFL, while linebackers have stayed steady. We're talking a difference of around 5 years compared to 10 years. As New England has proven many times, what you need to win in today's NFL is a great quarterback, pass rushers, and an overall stout front seven. Many times, your runningback and receivers are only as good as your quarterback, which in Buffalo is a total dreck.

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    edited March 2015
    Buffalo traded this year's first rounder to move up a couple spots to pick Sammy Watkins. Only a loser franchise makes trades like that. They could have waited, picked Beckman or Mike Evans and given up nothing.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    If Chip ever gets a defense in Philly... Super Bowl
  • RavennaDawg
    RavennaDawg Member Posts: 846
    topdawgnc said:
    As I have posted before, Chip will win a college playoff game before he wins an NFL playoff game.

    His team's are not designed to play good defenses that force 3 and outs. He will continue to defeat poor and mediocre teams, and win Thursday games after Sunday games, and lose to good teams.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    topdawgnc said:
    As I have posted before, Chip will win a college playoff game before he wins an NFL playoff game.

    His team's are not designed to play good defenses that force 3 and outs. He will continue to defeat poor and mediocre teams, and win Thursday games after Sunday games, and lose to good teams.
    This isn't last year's Eagles.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    Buffalo traded this year's first rounder to move up a couple spots to pick Sammy Watkins. Only a loser franchise makes trades like that. They could have waited, picked Beckman or Mike Evans and given up nothing.

    Or a team like Pittsburgh waits to pick an Antonio Brown. It's no secret why you consistently have the skins, raiders, bills, and jets of the world being plungered by the patriots, steelers, Hawks, and Ravens of the world.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited March 2015
    With a strict salary cap, owners and GMs are astronomically more important than the actual coaches and players of a franchise in the NFL.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646

    With a strict salary cap, owners and GMs are astronomically more important than the actual coaches and players of a franchise in the NFL.

    This.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,697 Standard Supporter
    PurpleJ said:

    If Chip ever gets a defense in Philly... Super Bowl

    #Youreagles
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    With a strict salary cap, owners and GMs are astronomically more important than the actual coaches and players of a franchise in the NFL.

    I would agree with this statement 81%.

    Pete Carroll proves coaching is still the other 19%.

    His leadership pulled the Seahawks together and got them to a Super Bowl when things didn't look to good at the start of the year.
  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611
    I love Chip but so far his offseason has looked like a steaming pile of shit. The McCoy for Alonso trade wasn't bad at all but everything else is:

    - Grossly overpaying for Maxwell. I get why they overpaid, it's free agency and he was the #1 DB in the class. However, the DB class is pretty bad and this reeks of Chip signing someone because he had to. Good GM's maximize their value rather than win outrageous bidding wars over players. He also swung and missed on McCourty. Now the Eagles are going to be putting Maxwell on an island against other team's #1 receivers and he'll be up against Dez, Djack, and Odell 6 times a year. For how much he is being paid, he will be expected to win those battles. Do you really think he will more often than not?
    - Giving Sanchize $16 million. Why?
    - Letting Maclin walk. If they were willing to shell out big money to Maxwell, why not Maclin. Their WR corp would feature Riley Cooper as their #1. That's worse than Seattle's pathetic WR corp.

    Maybe popping off too early here, free agency hasn't technically started yet but these all seem locked in.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited March 2015

    I love Chip but so far his offseason has looked like a steaming pile of shit. The McCoy for Alonso trade wasn't bad at all but everything else is:

    - Grossly overpaying for Maxwell. I get why they overpaid, it's free agency and he was the #1 DB in the class. However, the DB class is pretty bad and this reeks of Chip signing someone because he had to. Good GM's maximize their value rather than win outrageous bidding wars over players. He also swung and missed on McCourty. Now the Eagles are going to be putting Maxwell on an island against other team's #1 receivers and he'll be up against Dez, Djack, and Odell 6 times a year. For how much he is being paid, he will be expected to win those battles. Do you really think he will more often than not?
    - Giving Sanchize $16 million. Why?
    - Letting Maclin walk. If they were willing to shell out big money to Maxwell, why not Maclin. Their WR corp would feature Riley Cooper as their #1. That's worse than Seattle's pathetic WR corp.

    Maybe popping off too early here, free agency hasn't technically started yet but these all seem locked in.

    I agree with you on everything but Maclin. Without a superstar quarterback, big name WRs are worthless. Quaterbacks make wrs and rbs better not the other way around. If letting Maclin go helps them pick up a top flight QB, then it's totally worth it.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    The Eagles had $50 million in cap room before signing Gore and Maxwell. I think Gore is getting $4 million and Maxwell $10. They should still have at least $35 million. That's lot of money and draft picks to fill holes.

    The defense is better than last year with Alonso and Maxwell on board. Now they need another player or two to round it out. Spend the money on defense and trust the offense will be fine with Chip. I like the Eagles off season so far.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    The Eagles had $50 million in cap room before signing Gore and Maxwell. I think Gore is getting $4 million and Maxwell $10. They should still have at least $35 million. That's lot of money and draft picks to fill holes.

    The defense is better than last year with Alonso and Maxwell on board. Now they need another player or two to round it out. Spend the money on defense and trust the offense will be fine with Chip. I like the Eagles off season so far.

    Still no qb, a slow old fuck at rb, your best wr is Cooper, and even with Maxwell you're looking at a pass defense that was 30th and 31st the last two years.
  • UWerentThereMan
    UWerentThereMan Member Posts: 3,475
    Frank Gore is an odd acquisition. Seems like he's been on he downward the last few seasons
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    The only thing on offense the Eagles need is a quarterback. The right quarterback will make average wrs and rbs elite.