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Our empire is over, who is the next best world power?

2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
Brought to you by our friends at Zero hedge.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-02/next-empire

"Invariably, the last people to understand the collapse of an empire are those who live within it. As a British subject, I remember my younger years, when, even though the British Empire was well and truly over, many of my fellow Brits were still behaving in a pompous manner as though British “superiority” still existed. Not so, today. (You can only pretend for so long.)

But this does suggest that those who live within the present empire—the US—will be the last to truly understand that the game is all but over. Americans seem to be hopeful that the dramatic decline is a temporary setback from which they will rebound.

Not likely. Historically, once an empire has been shot from its perch, it’s replaced by a rising power—one that’s more productive and more forward thinking in every way. Yet the US is hanging on tenaciously, and like any dying empire, its leaders are becoming increasingly ruthless, both at home and abroad, hoping to keep up appearances."

Comments

  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Nope. Dark Ages.

    China, Russia, India and Europe are the contenders. None is ready to take the mantle.

    The United States remains the only global power with the ability to project military force worldwide. Once we lose that capacity, or once another power develops it, we'll see.
  • jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,727
    The system will collapse and the peppers will finally be able to blow their load. They will drop to their knees and look to the sky and say thank you.

    China, but they would be terrible as the super power..they don't have what it takes.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,341 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    Nope. Dark Ages.

    China, Russia, India and Europe are the contenders. None is ready to take the mantle.

    The United States remains the only global power with the ability to project military force worldwide. Once we lose that capacity, or once another power develops it, we'll see.

    This
  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    edited March 2015
    If you can't see that Zero Hedge is a Russian troll job, then I can't help you.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    If you can't see that Zero Hedge is a Russian troll job, then I can't help you.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge

    "Zero Hedge is a financial blog that aggregates news and presents editorial opinions from original and outside sources. It has been described as offering a "deeply conspiratorial, anti-establishment and pessimistic view of the world".[2] It reports on economics, Wall Street, and the financial sector and is credited with bringing the controversial practice of flash trading to public attention in 2009 via a series of posts alleging that Goldman Sachs' access to flash order information allowed the firm to gain unfair profits. The news portion of the site is written by a group of editors who collectively write under the pseudonym "Tyler Durden", a character from the novel and film Fight Club."

    I dont know about being Russian. But troll job does sound right.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,888 Standard Supporter
    The US still has to lose to Finland before the Empire is gone.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,888 Standard Supporter
    jecornel said:

    The system will collapse and the peppers will finally be able to blow their load. They will drop to their knees and look to the sky and say thank you.

    China, but they would be terrible as the super power..they don't have what it takes.

    Wait until Jack Ma gets his own guys in there. 2026 will be special.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,972
    Actually they are just a bunch of libertarian bankers and traders...interesting stuff as long as you take it in that context. And the Goldman stuff was classic. Even the liberal/commie Matt Taibbi loves zerohedge...From Taibbi:

    Beginning in early 2009 Durden had been on a jihad about Goldman, having sifted through trading data to make what he insisted was an airtight case proving that the bank's high-frequency or "flash" trading desk was engaged in some sort of large-scale manipulation of the New York Stock Exchange. Durden drew his conclusions by scrupulously analyzing trading data the NYSE released each week. So what happened? Naturally, the NYSE on June 24 changed its rules and stopped releasing the data, seemingly to protect Goldman from Zero Hedge's meddling.

  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    I thought this thread would be about that dumb show Empire getting cancelled.

    Disappointing.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,341 Founders Club

    I thought this thread would be about that dumb show Empire getting cancelled.

    Disappointing.

    Ratings are through the roof!
  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    Actually they are just a bunch of libertarian bankers and traders...interesting stuff as long as you take it in that context. And the Goldman stuff was classic. Even the liberal/commie Matt Taibbi loves zerohedge...From Taibbi:

    Beginning in early 2009 Durden had been on a jihad about Goldman, having sifted through trading data to make what he insisted was an airtight case proving that the bank's high-frequency or "flash" trading desk was engaged in some sort of large-scale manipulation of the New York Stock Exchange. Durden drew his conclusions by scrupulously analyzing trading data the NYSE released each week. So what happened? Naturally, the NYSE on June 24 changed its rules and stopped releasing the data, seemingly to protect Goldman from Zero Hedge's meddling.

    So did RT.
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