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George Soros Paid $196 Million to Lobby For Net Neutrality.

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  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109
    edited March 2015

    AZDuck said:

    Ajit Varadaraj Pai (born January 10, 1973) is a Commissioner at the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC). He was nominated for a Republican Party position on the commission by President Barack Obama at the recommendation of Mitch McConnell. He was confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on May 7, 2012 and was sworn in on May 14, 2012 for a term that concludes on June 30, 2016. Pai previously worked as a lawyer for Verizon Communications.
    BOOM, roasted!

    READ his tweet, Jackass. Ajit Pai voted against it.

    Reading Comprehension is a major part of the SAT. This explains so much.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    d2d said:

    AZDuck said:

    Ajit Varadaraj Pai (born January 10, 1973) is a Commissioner at the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC). He was nominated for a Republican Party position on the commission by President Barack Obama at the recommendation of Mitch McConnell. He was confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on May 7, 2012 and was sworn in on May 14, 2012 for a term that concludes on June 30, 2016. Pai previously worked as a lawyer for Verizon Communications.
    BOOM, roasted!
    READ his tweet, Jackass. Ajit Pai voted against it.

    Reading Comprehension is a major part of the SAT. This explains so much.

    A vote against means he opposes net neutrality.

    Just like his Verizon master wanted.

    Idiot.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    edited March 2015

    d2d said:

    7 Reasons Net Neutrality Is A Threat To Your Freedom:

    The number one reason that every American should consider net neutrality a grave threat is that the Muslim Brotherhood Congressman Hakim Muhammad (Keith Ellison) is dancing after hearing that the FCC voted to approve strong net neutrality rules.

    image

    The FCC’s Democrat majority voted on Thursday to fix something that ain’t broken by approving new regulations for the Internet. Republicans are dissenting, darkly suggesting that the new rules in government hands are a threat.

    The commission’s chairman, Tom Wheeler, said the new rules will ensure net neutrality by barring Internet service providers like Comcast from charging companies like Netflix for priority data transmission. Considering that ISPs don’t do this, and currently treat all data transmission equally, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-California, accused the FCC of trying to “fix something that is far from broken.”

    Here are 7 reasons why the FCC’s new net neutrality rules could be a threat to your freedom.

    1. The FCC’s new rules are a heavy-handed government takeover of the Internet.

    Under the new rules, broadband Internet is classified as a public utility for the first time ever. This gives the government wide control of private companies like Comcast, Verizon, and Time Warner Cable, reducing their incentives to invest in their respective networks. Without this investment, broadband technology will develop more slowly, and prices will be higher for consumers.

    2. Net neutrality subsidizes large companies like Netflix and Facebook who don’t need it.

    In November, it was widely reported that Netflix alone accounts for over 35 percent of all Internet traffic in the US. If broadband providers were able to charge Netflix a small fee for the high volume of data they send, they could pass that money onto consumers in the form of lower monthly bills.

    3. The new rules subvert democracy and the will of the people.

    CBS News reported that two in three Americans are opposed to the idea of government regulating the Internet. Other polls show that opposition to net neutrality is even higher.

    4. The new regulations will stifle free speech.

    Lee E. Goodman, former chairman and a current commissioner of the Federal Election Commission, told Newsmax TV that a government takeover of the Internet will chill political speech.

    “The government will regulate the content — and specifically the political content — that the American people can both post online to express their own political opinions, and the political content and information that people can access from the Internet,” said Goodman, who was appointed to the FEC in 2013 by President Obama.

    5. The rule-making process was corrupted by the White House.

    President Obama and White House staffers used backchannel meetings to pressure chairman Wheeler into creating the strongest possible net neutrality rules over the more moderate approach he originally intended. In this way, the White House operated “like a parallel version of the FCC itself,” The Wall Street Journal reported.

    6. The commission’s vote wasn’t transparent.

    The new set of rules ushered in by Thursday’s 3-2 vote were not provided to the public for comment. Ahead of the vote, one of the agency’s five commissioners, Ajit Pai, tweeted a picture of the 317-page plan that he was barred from showing the public. Even after the vote, the rules will not be published publicly for many days.

    7. The new rules will hurt the right to privacy, and further empower the federal government to spy on its citizens.

    After Edward Snowden leaked the NSA’s secret PRISM surveillance program in 2013, it became clear that the federal government is interested in snooping around in the private affairs of its citizens. Now that the federal government controls the web, its ability to spy will only increase.

    1. Those companies have been stagnant for years. The technology already exists. They've been lobbying to block its implementation. Fucking liars.

    2. They already held Netflix hostage. Netflix caved. Savings were not passed on to customers *shocker*

    3. I'm surprised how little you fucks know about this. And believe it or not, I hold you all in slightly higher regard than the average American. Well maybe not PLSS. That poll question is loaded bullshit, and distracts from the actual issue.

    4. Flat out lie. Neutrality prevents those with more resources from purchasing better services, effectively blocking smaller/individual voices. Imagine HH going up against the Fox owned Scout.com network if they were paying to stifle small competitors.

    5. Welcome to the real world. The White House always makes their policy wishes known. Why is this even a point?

    6. Literally the only valid poont on this list. Knowing the details would allow for informed discussion and critique.

    7. CHRIST. They're already spying on us. This changes nothing. Please stay on topic.
    AZDuck said:

    Ajit Varadaraj Pai (born January 10, 1973) is a Commissioner at the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC). He was nominated for a Republican Party position on the commission by President Barack Obama at the recommendation of Mitch McConnell. He was confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on May 7, 2012 and was sworn in on May 14, 2012 for a term that concludes on June 30, 2016. Pai previously worked as a lawyer for Verizon Communications.
    It's cute that d2d thinks Comcast and Verizon take the interests of the public more seriously than the feds. Tell me again how the current rules--where Comcast operates in a near monopoly in the Seattle area--are superior?

    And it's certainly not shocking that Pai pushed for neutering the new rules, considering that he used to work for Verizon.
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109

    d2d said:

    7 Reasons Net Neutrality Is A Threat To Your Freedom:

    The number one reason that every American should consider net neutrality a grave threat is that the Muslim Brotherhood Congressman Hakim Muhammad (Keith Ellison) is dancing after hearing that the FCC voted to approve strong net neutrality rules.

    image

    The FCC’s Democrat majority voted on Thursday to fix something that ain’t broken by approving new regulations for the Internet. Republicans are dissenting, darkly suggesting that the new rules in government hands are a threat.

    The commission’s chairman, Tom Wheeler, said the new rules will ensure net neutrality by barring Internet service providers like Comcast from charging companies like Netflix for priority data transmission. Considering that ISPs don’t do this, and currently treat all data transmission equally, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-California, accused the FCC of trying to “fix something that is far from broken.”

    Here are 7 reasons why the FCC’s new net neutrality rules could be a threat to your freedom.

    1. The FCC’s new rules are a heavy-handed government takeover of the Internet.

    Under the new rules, broadband Internet is classified as a public utility for the first time ever. This gives the government wide control of private companies like Comcast, Verizon, and Time Warner Cable, reducing their incentives to invest in their respective networks. Without this investment, broadband technology will develop more slowly, and prices will be higher for consumers.

    2. Net neutrality subsidizes large companies like Netflix and Facebook who don’t need it.

    In November, it was widely reported that Netflix alone accounts for over 35 percent of all Internet traffic in the US. If broadband providers were able to charge Netflix a small fee for the high volume of data they send, they could pass that money onto consumers in the form of lower monthly bills.

    3. The new rules subvert democracy and the will of the people.

    CBS News reported that two in three Americans are opposed to the idea of government regulating the Internet. Other polls show that opposition to net neutrality is even higher.

    4. The new regulations will stifle free speech.

    Lee E. Goodman, former chairman and a current commissioner of the Federal Election Commission, told Newsmax TV that a government takeover of the Internet will chill political speech.

    “The government will regulate the content — and specifically the political content — that the American people can both post online to express their own political opinions, and the political content and information that people can access from the Internet,” said Goodman, who was appointed to the FEC in 2013 by President Obama.

    5. The rule-making process was corrupted by the White House.

    President Obama and White House staffers used backchannel meetings to pressure chairman Wheeler into creating the strongest possible net neutrality rules over the more moderate approach he originally intended. In this way, the White House operated “like a parallel version of the FCC itself,” The Wall Street Journal reported.

    6. The commission’s vote wasn’t transparent.

    The new set of rules ushered in by Thursday’s 3-2 vote were not provided to the public for comment. Ahead of the vote, one of the agency’s five commissioners, Ajit Pai, tweeted a picture of the 317-page plan that he was barred from showing the public. Even after the vote, the rules will not be published publicly for many days.

    7. The new rules will hurt the right to privacy, and further empower the federal government to spy on its citizens.

    After Edward Snowden leaked the NSA’s secret PRISM surveillance program in 2013, it became clear that the federal government is interested in snooping around in the private affairs of its citizens. Now that the federal government controls the web, its ability to spy will only increase.

    1. Those companies have been stagnant for years. The technology already exists. They've been lobbying to block its implementation. Fucking liars.

    2. They already held Netflix hostage. Netflix caved. Savings were not passed on to customers *shocker*

    3. I'm surprised how little you fucks know about this. And believe it or not, I hold you all in slightly higher regard than the average American. Well maybe not PLSS. That poll question is loaded bullshit, and distracts from the actual issue.

    4. Flat out lie. Neutrality prevents those with more resources from purchasing better services, effectively blocking smaller/individual voices. Imagine HH going up against the Fox owned Scout.com network if they were paying to stifle small competitors.

    5. Welcome to the real world. The White House always makes their policy wishes known. Why is this even a point?

    6. Literally the only valid poont on this list. Knowing the details would allow for informed discussion and critique.

    7. CHRIST. They're already spying on us. This changes nothing. Please stay on topic.
    AZDuck said:

    Ajit Varadaraj Pai (born January 10, 1973) is a Commissioner at the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC). He was nominated for a Republican Party position on the commission by President Barack Obama at the recommendation of Mitch McConnell. He was confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on May 7, 2012 and was sworn in on May 14, 2012 for a term that concludes on June 30, 2016. Pai previously worked as a lawyer for Verizon Communications.
    It's cute that d2d thinks Comcast and Verizon take the interests of the public more seriously than the feds. Tell me again how the current rules--where Comcast operates in a near monopoly in the Seattle area--are superior?

    And it's certainly not shocking that Pai pushed for neutering the new rules, considering that he used to work for Verizon.

    Obviously Verizon didn't come close to topping Soro's bid.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    d2d said:

    d2d said:

    7 Reasons Net Neutrality Is A Threat To Your Freedom:

    The number one reason that every American should consider net neutrality a grave threat is that the Muslim Brotherhood Congressman Hakim Muhammad (Keith Ellison) is dancing after hearing that the FCC voted to approve strong net neutrality rules.

    image

    The FCC’s Democrat majority voted on Thursday to fix something that ain’t broken by approving new regulations for the Internet. Republicans are dissenting, darkly suggesting that the new rules in government hands are a threat.

    The commission’s chairman, Tom Wheeler, said the new rules will ensure net neutrality by barring Internet service providers like Comcast from charging companies like Netflix for priority data transmission. Considering that ISPs don’t do this, and currently treat all data transmission equally, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-California, accused the FCC of trying to “fix something that is far from broken.”

    Here are 7 reasons why the FCC’s new net neutrality rules could be a threat to your freedom.

    1. The FCC’s new rules are a heavy-handed government takeover of the Internet.

    Under the new rules, broadband Internet is classified as a public utility for the first time ever. This gives the government wide control of private companies like Comcast, Verizon, and Time Warner Cable, reducing their incentives to invest in their respective networks. Without this investment, broadband technology will develop more slowly, and prices will be higher for consumers.

    2. Net neutrality subsidizes large companies like Netflix and Facebook who don’t need it.

    In November, it was widely reported that Netflix alone accounts for over 35 percent of all Internet traffic in the US. If broadband providers were able to charge Netflix a small fee for the high volume of data they send, they could pass that money onto consumers in the form of lower monthly bills.

    3. The new rules subvert democracy and the will of the people.

    CBS News reported that two in three Americans are opposed to the idea of government regulating the Internet. Other polls show that opposition to net neutrality is even higher.

    4. The new regulations will stifle free speech.

    Lee E. Goodman, former chairman and a current commissioner of the Federal Election Commission, told Newsmax TV that a government takeover of the Internet will chill political speech.

    “The government will regulate the content — and specifically the political content — that the American people can both post online to express their own political opinions, and the political content and information that people can access from the Internet,” said Goodman, who was appointed to the FEC in 2013 by President Obama.

    5. The rule-making process was corrupted by the White House.

    President Obama and White House staffers used backchannel meetings to pressure chairman Wheeler into creating the strongest possible net neutrality rules over the more moderate approach he originally intended. In this way, the White House operated “like a parallel version of the FCC itself,” The Wall Street Journal reported.

    6. The commission’s vote wasn’t transparent.

    The new set of rules ushered in by Thursday’s 3-2 vote were not provided to the public for comment. Ahead of the vote, one of the agency’s five commissioners, Ajit Pai, tweeted a picture of the 317-page plan that he was barred from showing the public. Even after the vote, the rules will not be published publicly for many days.

    7. The new rules will hurt the right to privacy, and further empower the federal government to spy on its citizens.

    After Edward Snowden leaked the NSA’s secret PRISM surveillance program in 2013, it became clear that the federal government is interested in snooping around in the private affairs of its citizens. Now that the federal government controls the web, its ability to spy will only increase.

    1. Those companies have been stagnant for years. The technology already exists. They've been lobbying to block its implementation. Fucking liars.

    2. They already held Netflix hostage. Netflix caved. Savings were not passed on to customers *shocker*

    3. I'm surprised how little you fucks know about this. And believe it or not, I hold you all in slightly higher regard than the average American. Well maybe not PLSS. That poll question is loaded bullshit, and distracts from the actual issue.

    4. Flat out lie. Neutrality prevents those with more resources from purchasing better services, effectively blocking smaller/individual voices. Imagine HH going up against the Fox owned Scout.com network if they were paying to stifle small competitors.

    5. Welcome to the real world. The White House always makes their policy wishes known. Why is this even a point?

    6. Literally the only valid poont on this list. Knowing the details would allow for informed discussion and critique.

    7. CHRIST. They're already spying on us. This changes nothing. Please stay on topic.
    AZDuck said:

    Ajit Varadaraj Pai (born January 10, 1973) is a Commissioner at the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC). He was nominated for a Republican Party position on the commission by President Barack Obama at the recommendation of Mitch McConnell. He was confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on May 7, 2012 and was sworn in on May 14, 2012 for a term that concludes on June 30, 2016. Pai previously worked as a lawyer for Verizon Communications.
    It's cute that d2d thinks Comcast and Verizon take the interests of the public more seriously than the feds. Tell me again how the current rules--where Comcast operates in a near monopoly in the Seattle area--are superior?

    And it's certainly not shocking that Pai pushed for neutering the new rules, considering that he used to work for Verizon.
    Obviously Verizon didn't come close to topping Soro's bid.

    Huh?

    He voted the way Verizon would want: against net neutrality.

    Reading Comprehension is a major part of the SAT. This explains so much.

    You suck at this.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,408 Founders Club
    I trust the free market over the government. Monopolies are granted by the government. I don't use Comcast. Breaking up the Bell system and deregulating telecommunications was the best thing that could happen. Regulating the internet with 332 pages of shit the government doesn't want you to see hardly inspires trust.

    I guarantee that if Bush were President Paradise and Tommy Hill would agree with me

    When I lived in Seattle there was one cable company. I got a satellite dish and DirecTV. There was one cable company because the Seattle City government wanted it that way. Shitty service and high costs.

    The government is far more likely to rape you. Corporations want your money so they buy you dinner and whisper sweet nothings in your ear to get you to put out
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    I actually misstated what's happening. It would appear that the new rules merely prevent the ISPs from squeezing speeds in the future, which as Fremont pointed out e.g. netflix, would be a very real possibility. The new rules don't really do anything about the Comcast monopoly, which hopefully will get attacked next.

    The d2ds and Race Bannons of the board would scream bloody murder, but the idea of a city-wide fiber system would be really promising.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,408 Founders Club

    I actually misstated what's happening. It would appear that the new rules merely prevent the ISPs from squeezing speeds in the future, which as Fremont pointed out e.g. netflix, would be a very real possibility. The new rules don't really do anything about the Comcast monopoly, which hopefully will get attacked next.

    The d2ds and Race Bannons of the board would scream bloody murder, but the idea of a city-wide fiber system would be really promising.

    Only if it was done in secret. If they can sell the voters on it why would I scream?

    If this is so wonderful why is it secret?
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    I trust the free market over the government. Monopolies are granted by the government. I don't use Comcast. Breaking up the Bell system and deregulating telecommunications was the best thing that could happen. Regulating the internet with 332 pages of shit the government doesn't want you to see hardly inspires trust.

    I guarantee that if Bush were President Paradise and Tommy Hill would agree with me

    When I lived in Seattle there was one cable company. I got a satellite dish and DirecTV. There was one cable company because the Seattle City government wanted it that way. Shitty service and high costs.

    The government is far more likely to rape you. Corporations want your money so they buy you dinner and whisper sweet nothings in your ear to get you to put out

    They "wanted" it that way because their corporate donors wanted it that way. Don't play dumb.

    Ed Murray was bought and paid for by Comcast. As soon as he wins the election, the Seattle fiber plan is killed, and Comcast's contract gets re-upped.

    This isn't a Bush vs Obama, red vs blue, or Dem vs Rep issue. If you don't understand the issue, maybe educate yourself before popping off.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,408 Founders Club
    Ed Murray was mayor in the 1980's and 90's? I guess I do need to educate myself. Allegedly

    I'm not making it a red v blue issue I am clearly stating it is an open versus secret issue. And you would see that if it was a red president. Don't even try to deny that.

    So we can trust the government except we can't because their corporate donors buy them off which is what D2D is saying about Soros but the 332 page secret executive order is better than the free market.

    Maybe you and Paradise need a brief recess to get your shit together on how you're going to sell this since neither one of you even knows what you're selling since it's a secret.