I am sick of King County liberals living off welfare and government spending.
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I'd say the biggest threat to the Republic is public sector unions. FDR was against them (asking the pertinent question, "how can government organize against itself?") but Ted Kennedy saw them as a slush fund for Dems since private sector unions were in decline (due to growing international trade / competition).
Thankfully smart midwestern states are seeing what happens when public sector unions run amok (Detroit) and are taking action. Public Sector Unions are a threat to limited government and thus taxpayers. Gotta love the slanted description of "Fair Share":
wgntv.com/2015/02/09/gov-rauner-signs-executive-order-allowing-state-employees-to-opt-out-of-union-dues/ -
Public sector unions killed Detroit?
And all this time I thought it was Milliken v. Bradley. -
Sure. The story is completely wrong. The people in Washington State that complain the MOST about government spending are NOT the same people that disproportionately suck off the government tit. The statistics are all a lie.HoustonHusky said:I'm just amazed that a worthless article pushing even more worthless statistics ended up in a 3 page and counting thread.
At least it is informative to see where some folks *cough* Passion *cough* get their "information"...
It's all about Passion hating farmers. Yah, right. -
I really hope you are joking. If not, do you really think that court case made Detroit go bankrupt nearly 40 years later? Da Fuq?AZDuck said:
Public sector unions killed Detroit?
And all this time I thought it was Milliken v. Bradley. -
The people who most suck off the government teat are the Public Sector Unions whose interests are only aligned with the politicians they back rather than regular voters. Regular voters in KC see their taxes go up and up while Union Bus Drivers are making over $100,000 in gross salaries.
Or how about the employees in the office of diversity for Seattle Government? They are pulling in $75k+ just in salary alone for doing jack shit.
That kind of crap has infected Seattle City Government, King County Government, and even parts of the State Government.Passion said:
Sure. The story is completely wrong. The people in Washington State that complain the MOST about government spending are NOT the same people that disproportionately suck off the government tit. The statistics are all a lie.HoustonHusky said:I'm just amazed that a worthless article pushing even more worthless statistics ended up in a 3 page and counting thread.
At least it is informative to see where some folks *cough* Passion *cough* get their "information"...
It's all about Passion hating farmers. Yah, right. -
Yes.HFNY said:I really hope you are joking. If not, do you really think that court case made Detroit go bankrupt nearly 40 years later? Da Fuq?
AZDuck said:Public sector unions killed Detroit?
And all this time I thought it was Milliken v. Bradley.
White flight happened. Detroit lost its tax base and went broke. -
Passion, you got a great bumpersticker there, maybe even enough for a snappy yard sign, but that's about as deep as it goes.Passion said:
Sure. The story is completely wrong. The people in Washington State that complain the MOST about government spending are NOT the same people that disproportionately suck off the government tit. The statistics are all a lie.HoustonHusky said:I'm just amazed that a worthless article pushing even more worthless statistics ended up in a 3 page and counting thread.
At least it is informative to see where some folks *cough* Passion *cough* get their "information"...
It's all about Passion hating farmers. Yah, right. -
No.
Detroit kept spending like a drunken-sailor like it was the 1950's and 1960's because public sector unions are corrupt and terribly difficult to roll back if a city stagnates and / or then loses population.
AZDuck said:
Yes.HFNY said:I really hope you are joking. If not, do you really think that court case made Detroit go bankrupt nearly 40 years later? Da Fuq?
And probably the most serious indictment of the Public Sector Union's early retirements and juicy pensions:
AZDuck said:Public sector unions killed Detroit?
And all this time I thought it was Milliken v. Bradley.
White flight happened. Detroit lost its tax base and went broke. -
http://archive.freep.com/article/20130908/NEWS01/309080062/Detroit-pension-13th-check-Chapter-9-bankruptcy-Kevyn-Orr
Unions are soooo eeeeevvvviilllll. Trying to get retirees $28,000/year instead of $25,000/year.
Turrible.
$1BN over twenty years during a period where cost-of-living increases and such weren't happening doesn't seem that bad.
Your other graph tells more of the story:
The population of Detroit in 1960 was 1,670,144. Detroit also had the highest per-capita income of any American city in 1960. The population of Detroit today is 688,701. So, a million more people lived in Detroit 54 years ago, and a much-larger city government existed to serve them. Those folks have retired. And now, the city that pays those pensions is 41% the size of the city they worked for. Oh, Detroit is now among the poorest cities in America in terms of per-capita income.
But yes, it was all the unions that made a million people leave Detroit during the last fifty years.
